Topic: E3D Titan extruder
This looks very interesting. I am wondering if it would be worth modding the printer again to accommodate this?
http://e3d-online.com/blog/titan
Anyone else considering this?
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This looks very interesting. I am wondering if it would be worth modding the printer again to accommodate this?
http://e3d-online.com/blog/titan
Anyone else considering this?
Posted here as well:
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/14531/e3 … der-titan/
I've has a couple of them for a few months now. Happy to answer questions.
EDIT: See this post: http://www.soliforum.com/post/120998/#p120998 for an installation guide!
I assume this would allow me to have more control than the Da Vinci 1.0a extruder. I really like the design. I am not sure if I am savvy enough to create the mod needed but perhaps I will try it at some point.
Yes, you would get 3 times the resolution which would help with details. There are other benefits - it would be better with flexibles, etc.
I don't have a DaVinci so I can't comment on mounting, but the Titan uses the regular NEMA 17 stepper hole pattern for mounting.
Good price point, £45. I'll be keeping an eye on this thread with interest.
Someone here did a mod for the Bondtech QR extruder .... http://www.soliforum.com/topic/13817/bondtech-qr/
It's quite a bit more expensive than the Titan though.
This is IN ADDITION to an E3D v6, it does not include a hot end, correct?
In addition to a v6 or Lite6, correct. Does not include a hotend.
To clarify, the Titan only accepts the Genuine E3d v6, Lite6, and Bowden adapter.
This is a spectacular moment to upgrade the hotend and extruder. If there is a demand from the XYZ community I would be happy to try and design a mount.
Keep in mind that I also do not own an XYZ, but would gladly experiment on a Da Vinci guinea pig
I'll fly you from Chicago and provide you a work area and all the parts. You take your time with my Da Vinci, ok?
I am so tempted. If I am upgrading the hotend, why not just throw this bad boy on and toss the stock stepper/extruder??
Where are you located? Because I sure could use a vacation right about now!
Like I said, I am not well versed with XYZ printers, but if you can share or link the motor mount/carriage, I should be able to whip something up in the next 24 hours.
draw me a sketch with measurements and i can draw one up with solidworks for you
Bottom line: They kinda suck (XYZ). But I am in a love/hate relationship with mine...
Most people update the stock carriage by drilling holes in it for the v6. I'm not sure if there has been a complete carriage build for the 1.0A posted yet.
edit: Here is a bowden version...
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:846434
I will do some research on the carriage issue. If other XYZ veterans can chime in here, it would help the Da Vinci community!
Kronikabuse- Please keep me in the loop as well.
UPDATE!
UPDATE!
IMPORTANT If you have done the E3D v6 modification, you will need to use the drill guide in the thread. and the Extruder Bracket Holes Filled.stl This will become clearer as you read the following instructions If you have never done any mods, Read This Thread VERY Carefully.
However if you have never installed the E3D v6 I would follow this mod step by step.
I have removed other posts for clarity
After following the the guide previously linked on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P … jjrRY8MCG)
You will also need to print the cutting template, Stepper Motor Bracket (depending if you already drilled two new holes in the carriage or not. Both attached to this thread), Daughterboard Mount. I have attached the .stl files this post, If you need them in another format let me know.
So having followed the first few parts on youtube, you should have installed a 12v feed and removed the original carriage.
it's now gets fairly interesting, you are going to need three arms and five hands. Its a little fiddly but can be done with some patience
1, I removed the motherboard for ease of soldering the 12v cable connector (make sure of correct polarization). Once soldered I replaced the MB, Photograph the connectors, to aid reinstall.
2, Dismantled the printer carriage and remove from the Printer, all covered on YouTube
3, If starting from the beginning with no mods already done. Remove the gear from the stepper motor shaft. ( I used a butane torch to remove the original toothed wheel, hold the gear with pliers so it doesnt fall closer to the motor)
4, Take the steeper motor bracket (Choose the correct one), and this sits on top of the stepper motor. You will see it is longer than the motor body, this is to accomandate the daughterboard mount
Make sure the motor cable connector is to the right when viewed from above
5, Next having modified the original carriage using the cutting/drill guide, mount the guide to the Carriage, (red circles) Trim the carriage to the yellow line and drill 2x 3.5mm holes (marked by the blue circles)
and then remove the guide.
6, When trimmed to match, Lay ontop of the bracket, with the new bracket you will notice a overhang not in this picture. in this picture no previous modification as been done to the carriage
If you have modified the carriage previously, you will need too use the Extruder Bracket Holes filled.stl and after thenew holes have been drilled it will look like this
You will notice two pegs ringed in red. These will fill the previously drill holes and allow for a solid install. Run a 3.5mm drill through the holes in your chosen bracket, which will restore the diameters too the correct size
before progressing. your install should look like this if previous holes have been drilled which will now be plugged
and Close up
7, Then place the TITAN extruder so you can adjust the TITAN toothed cog to the correct place. Make sure the grub screw is nearest the steeper motor body
I found the correct position to be 12mm from the stepper motor body as in the picture below, you will also notice the grub screws position
8, Setup the E3Dv6 or Lite. adding the heater cartridge, and thermistor. The fan shroud should be attached and in this orientation. I spent a long time trying different configurations. It will only fit like this and requires no more cutting of the carriage.
9, You will need to do a slight modification to the Carriage.
using a dremel and small grinding attachment. remove a small amount of material as below
If this is not done it will look like this
you will have difficulty getting the bolts in the stepper motor.
After using the dremel, it will look like this
This is enough to make the install way easier. You can see the Fan bolt head now sits further to the side of the carriage.
10, Take you time and follow the Titan Assembly Wiki http://wiki.e3d-online.com/wiki/Titan_Assembly
this process is rather fiddly and you could do with some extra hands. the small M3 x 10mm bolt cannot be used, otherwise you can't get the Titan in the carriage. Position of bolt left out indicated by the red circle
11 Tighten the other bolts and I have had not problem with the Titan being loose, I used some threadlock for extra security. You may need to loosen the bolt (marked yellow) which goes through the thumb wheel to obtain a smooth movement.
12, It should now look something like this from below
and like this from the front
13, Now attach the Daughterboard Mount and the Daughterboard in place, I used 3mm self tapping screws and pilot holes for the mount.
and double sided tape for the Daughterboard, You will notice the thermistor cable as been reattached to this board. This uses the original wiring
14, Now cable tie the leads in this fashion
15, You now need too attach the Connectors for the Heater and new fan power
IMPORTANT This was the position of the nozzle with no further modding if the E3Dv6 installed
I would not Drill any other holes for the sake of 2mm adjustments. However if you have never installed the E3D v6 I would follow this mod step by step.
and this will be the final position following this guide and using the attached files
It is only a drop of 2mm but I think it looks right.
*NB* one thing I have just noticed E3D have sent me the 30Watt heater cartridge. I need a 40Watt and so will replace this shortly. Make sure you get the correct wattage, otherwise it can cause errors in software.
After checking using this process I have lost 1mm of z-axis.......
Any questions, or anything needing clarification, please don't hesitate to ask. I apologies if it seems I have taken over this thread..
ENJOY!
It should work just fine with the v6 lite. Not so sure about the v6.
The Lite6 and v6 has the same mount dimensions. Also, you'll want to remove that collet if you haven't already.
I'm not installing it in the DaVinci. Just trying to help those who are on the fence, but you're right about the collet.
Is that the Davinci stock carriage you have it mounted in there ?
Is that the Davinci stock carriage you have it mounted in there ?
It sure looks like it...... Having taken mine apart, it looks like it could be a relatively easy modification.. I have a friend who as just fitted an E3D Titan to his i3 printer and swears by it.
I think I'm going to take the plunge. For information, I think if anyone is thinking of adding this to a Da Vinci, they would need to run a 12v feed for the hotends feed. This is covered on the web/you tube. I've done it and it takes approx 30 minutes
Having taken another look at the mockup, I believe it is sitting too low in the mount. Therefore I feel the E3D v6 modification to the mount is needed
Yes this is the stock carriage. You'll lose some Z height so just add an extension to the Z endstop trigger arm and call it a day.
Do you have any other pictures of the Titan Stepper mount. Is that needed or can it be a direct connection to the motor ?
Sorry I already took it apart. Hope this helps. You don't need any extra parts, just what's supplied with the kit.
Thank you for the picture, very helpful. It looks like it attaches directly to the front of the stepper motor? Is this is correct then using the adaption to the stepper mount during the E3D conversion, should restore the Z axis height. Or at worst restrict the loss to only 5mm
Have you removed much if any on the original mount?
Thank you
I didn't remove anything from the original mount. This is all stock mounting holes
This is getting really interesting, thanks for taking the time to post this evanalmighty.
If the Titan is as good as they say, this mod could change the Davinci with an E3D from a good printer to a really great one !
Just one other thing, is that a stock stepper motor or does it need another type ?
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