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repetier host VO.95F  fails to slice the Camera case front STL stating an error. so I know its the file

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Repetier Host is not a slicer.

Camera_case_front.stl slices fine in Slic3r 1.2.9, so the STL file is fine.

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I was an early backer and got the files as soon as they were released.  If having to orient a part so it prints is a problem, well I am all out of words.

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I can get the new slicer to see correct but old ones wont on most of these files they say lots of holes, triangle mesh issues 'tried to repair' etc and no matter what slicer settings used they dont show complete model in Gcode like it does as stl when loaded in RH. I thought at one point support not checked may be it but not. it self repairs wrong then butchers model when slicing. I dont have these issues with over 100 stl files I have sliced and printed fine the last 2 years. so its gotta be a type of version incompatability conflict on these STL files. I got the Camera  bracket and the camera case back both to slice and print fins. camera arm, camera case front and camera tower wont even come close. the RPI case Bplus halves wont even load in RH just logs errors. lucky I got old RPI I guess there. seems odd only these files have fits with my tried and true versions of RH/Slic3r.

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for now I'm gonna continue through the rest and print what will

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n2ri wrote:

repetier host VO.95F  fails to slice the Camera case front STL stating an error. so I know its the file

I too printed these way back when the they were originally posted, and didn't any problems.

I still have one of the old versions of Repetier installed, v0.85, with Slic3r 0.97, so I loaded the STL's in question, camera case front & back, and neither gave out any warning or failed to slice.

There's nothing wrong with those files, I even opened them in NetFabb, and they're clean.

If you're having a problem slicing these parts, then I would suggest you might have a corrupted app, or bad/corrupted setting, so  I suggest you look for the original files, and reinstall them and also check your slicing parameters.

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I found one more file that wont even load in repetier host the right tower same as the 2 Bplus cases just a string of NaN value errors. I sliced all but 6 files in my original Slic3r that came with RH from Solidoodle. 3 wont load the other 3 wont slice right. I am pretty sure I can get the 3 to slice right on my other laptop with the newest versions of RH/Slic3r so I will try the 3 that wont load also.

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its like several days of printing lol

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Is it possible that the files you downloaded are corrupted?

I just loaded every single part for this thing in Repetier, ALL AT THE SAME TIME, and had absolutely no problems.  The only part that Repetier says is not manifold is the camera tower, but it still slices just fine.

At this stage, I can only assume you have corrupted files.

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I sliced the other 6 files in the newest RH/Slic3r apps on my other laptop. so all are in Gcode now. seems some programs/versions are more forgiving of errors and some also auto repair poorly. I will say I find nothing SImple about settings in KISS slicer cant even find some options that Slic3r has or many of the same terms used for things like nozzle size, filament size etc for calibration. and the newest SLic3r has some better and some worse ways of setup options than older versions as talked about b4 on this forum. thats why I am so hesitant to overwrite my older versions and prefer doing the difficult files only in the newer one. seems every slicer has its own niche of uses. thanks again for all the great help on this forum (yes even the snide remarks ;^P) I am not as dumb as some think on these issues, just not a great Typist hehe

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also I have noticed lately (I have tested most of the top 15 anti virus/firewall programs lately) that many of the new anti-virus/firewalls have become more troublesome for apps like we use in 3D printing and warn never to use any of the so called 'PC cleanup' addons from them as they know nothing of our apps and will remove all or part.

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Wow,

Please don't take this as a "snide remark" or anything like this, but I think there are a great many things wrong with your PC setup, if you have problems such as this.

I'm not sure but I think you mentioned somewhere that you're still using XP, if you are, I would strongly suggest you move on to Windows 7.  It's a major improvement over XP, and more importantly, it works fine with most current apps and add-ons.

If you're using anti-virus programs that flag any of our apps as questionable, I would question those programs.  I currently use AVG Free, and have used Norton, Avast and Microsoft Essentials in the past, not once did they flag Repetier, Cura, Slic3r or Kisslicer, or any other 3D printing app I have.  I recommend you look into AVG, asit has a pretty small footprint and doesn't hog up your PC like Norton/McAffee.

Last but not least, You should consider moving on to the latest versions of the 3D apps you use (Repetier, Slic3r, etc), as they have many improvements over the previous versions, and none of the bugs.

And one last remark, you keep referring to the STL files as as having errors.  I can tell you for a fact that with the aforementioned exception of the camera tower which (according to Repetier only) contains some degenerate faces, all the parts are error free.

If your apps tell you they have errors, then either your apps are wrong, or the STL files you downloaded got corrupted during the download, so I would try downloading them again.

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pirvan wrote:

Wow,

Please don't take this as a "snide remark" or anything like this, but I think there are a great many things wrong with your PC setup, if you have problems such as this.

I'm not sure but I think you mentioned somewhere that you're still using XP, if you are, I would strongly suggest you move on to Windows 7.  It's a major improvement over XP, and more importantly, it works fine with most current apps and add-ons.

If you're using anti-virus programs that flag any of our apps as questionable, I would question those programs.  I currently use AVG Free, and have used Norton, Avast and Microsoft Essentials in the past, not once did they flag Repetier, Cura, Slic3r or Kisslicer, or any other 3D printing app I have.  I recommend you look into AVG, asit has a pretty small footprint and doesn't hog up your PC like Norton/McAffee.

Last but not least, You should consider moving on to the latest versions of the 3D apps you use (Repetier, Slic3r, etc), as they have many improvements over the previous versions, and none of the bugs.

And one last remark, you keep referring to the STL files as as having errors.  I can tell you for a fact that with the aforementioned exception of the camera tower which (according to Repetier only) contains some degenerate faces, all the parts are error free.

If your apps tell you they have errors, then either your apps are wrong, or the STL files you downloaded got corrupted during the download, so I would try downloading them again.



I think your right about some of that but you wont get 'flagged' by parts of 3D apps like Python that work in background but they are seen as either unused files (wasted space) or suspect by many cleanup apps. and my laptop that has winXP sp3 has same AVG as you but its latest 'updates' have bad effects and also security issues (like forcing PC cleanup and paid versions) which can be confirmed online by all but AVG. one place that called them out was Google Chrome which works in conjunction with Comodo antivirus/firewall which is whats on my other laptop running win7 as I hated Win10 due to security and spartan usability offline. Comodo has free versions also but with much friendlier updates and features like virtual desktop/browser (Chromodo) making malware attempts impossible while browsing. as for errors in STLs a very high percentage have trivial errors in mesh, triangles, nonmanifold holes etc that slicers try to repair to their satisfaction and note these in log. the 6 files I posted above had many and old slic3r versions do poor repairs omitting parts often plus 3 of those files wouldnt even load rather listing long lines of NaN values for those files and canceling loading. but those exact same files loaded and sliced fine on my win7 laptop with its current RH/Slic3r version. the only other odd issue lately with my winXP laptop was its not loading the 2 Murondo sites for the files and instructions and that seems to be related to AVG or Windows security issues which started a couple months ago (I am still searching for that issues fix).

my other questions while looking through my Atlas scanner kit from Filastuder 1st is how do I register it for future updates? and how do I use the software that came with the WIFI dongle which is 100% in Chinese text? I have not gotten any reply from the maker of the scanner on any issues, so who do I ask? as this is not a shipping/distributor issue. I am likely going to have to reinstall some apps due to AVG updates busting up some things b4 I uninstalled those updates and reset some settings. also I will likely swap out AVG for Comodo and not add more apps to that laptop til spare one is fully useable for everything I do on the old one.

and as to 'snide remarks' I think that is easy to see which ones they are. no hurt feelings here;^)
like I tell people (as I have done same thing) dont hand it out if ya cant also take it. its not personal just people get calloused to things after hearing it so much.

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I also need to know about the 2 different pairs of files for RPI case B and Bplus. how do I use the plain B version with my RPI 1? do I also need the Bplus set and somehow merge the 2? as the plain set is only 1 side like mounting bases and not a complete case that can be attached as instructions say when assembling scanner.

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Once you input the serial number of your Atlas into the setup page, you will have automaic access to the updates.  All you need to do is click the "Check for updates" link under the camera button, and it will tell you if there are any updates or not, and you simply click on the update.

As for the WiFi dongle, it's an inexpensive one, but it works just fine, albeit slow.  It doesn't require any drivers, the drivers are built into the Rasbian/FreeLSS MicroSD that you should have gotten with your kit.

I looked at your previous posts and didn't see any files that you posted, so I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I can tell you again, there are NO ERRORS in any of the original Atlas 3D files, trivial or otherwise.  I've had them analyzed in NetFabb, and even imported them in Solidworks and they had NO ERRORS.

The only app that claims to see problems is Kisslicer, which, as far as I'm concerned has been broken since 2014.

Here is the NetFabb analysis of the Camera Case Front

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where is serial number?

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I know about the netfab. I done it too. all checked perfect. just 6 of them wont load or slice in my 2 old versions of RH/slicer and the 3 that did load had several errors listed in log that slic3r tried to fix but instead left parts out. like netfab does sometimes if you try auto repair on some stl files. like it fills in wheels or interiors of cars. the new slic3r is much more forgiving not nit picky like the older versions

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n2ri wrote:

where is serial number?

On the stepper motor. FWIW, this is discussed in the instructions - a good read if you haven't already.

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/13217/at … tructions/

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the 2 RPI Bplus case files and the right camera tower are the 3 that just give the NaN value errors when trying to load them in RH, the Camera case front you posted and camera arm and camera tower are the 3 that the old slic3rs repair and mess up omitting parts of the models and have several errors logged on each. but no issues in netfab or new Slic3r. very odd. I also was battling with calibrating a roll of black filament I am using for this which I used b4 but seems it got spots that must have gotten humid and swollen so dia ranges from 1.79-1.85 (still feeds fine lol) took me several attempted prints to solve that b4 getting good prints. LMAO just 1 thing after another but alls well now just gonna be a week getting finished printing and assembling. then learning scanner and calibrating it also. then start moving into saving and moving slic3r profiles to new version and relearn all that so I eliminate future hangups. this 3D printing learning cure I thought would take a year, is never ending.

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n2ri wrote:

I know about the netfab. I done it too. all checked perfect. just 6 of them wont load or slice in my 2 old versions of RH/slicer and the 3 that did load had several errors listed in log that slic3r tried to fix but instead left parts out. like netfab does sometimes if you try auto repair on some stl files. like it fills in wheels or interiors of cars. the new slic3r is much more forgiving not nit picky like the older versions

OK I give up.  Sorry I couldn't help.

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elmoret wrote:
n2ri wrote:

where is serial number?

On the stepper motor. FWIW, this is discussed in the instructions - a good read if you haven't already.

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/13217/at … tructions/

Thanks, I had those PDF files but they nor the one hard copy in kit say anything about that serial number. and even the youtube video instructions dont explain what or how to use the 2 different RPI case parts printed for the old or new RPI. also the nylon screw for mounting Pi camera is not in the hardware bag. and all assembly instructions call hardware by letters but only 1 small bag in the main hardware bag has a tag marked 'C' with washers. the others have no desognation yet are various sizes, shapes and 3 different allen wrenches included. can we get some way to identify which is what? last time I had this many tiny nuts and bolts was when I built a visible V8 engine and chassis and it had a page showing how to tell what was what for instructions.

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pirvan wrote:
n2ri wrote:

I know about the netfab. I done it too. all checked perfect. just 6 of them wont load or slice in my 2 old versions of RH/slicer and the 3 that did load had several errors listed in log that slic3r tried to fix but instead left parts out. like netfab does sometimes if you try auto repair on some stl files. like it fills in wheels or interiors of cars. the new slic3r is much more forgiving not nit picky like the older versions

OK I give up.  Sorry I couldn't help.

dont give up Pirvan. its all good just trying to explain an anomaly that I found and am sure others may. if we can find why it is then we can maybe prevent future such issues. I worked through it and many here could. just never saw anyone else post similar issue.

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n2ri,

This is the first report I've heard of problems downloading and also the first report of corrupt STL files.  The files have been printed a very large number of times on a wide variety of printer so I'm not sure why they are giving you problems.  I have loaded and printed them in Repetier Host, SoliPrint, and MatterControl without issue.  Have you tried updating your printer software?

If you have a Raspberry Pi Model B then you need to print RPI 1 Model B Case Lower, and RPI 1 Model B Case Upper, if you have a Pi 2 or Pi 1 B+ then you need to print RPI 2 and B+ Case Lower, and RPI 2 and B+ Case Upper.  The case for the Pi B was just recently added and is a simpler design, but functions well.

The software for the WiFi adapter is already loaded on the SD card, so you should not need to install anything.

- Uriah

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hairu526 wrote:

n2ri,

This is the first report I've heard of problems downloading and also the first report of corrupt STL files.  The files have been printed a very large number of times on a wide variety of printer so I'm not sure why they are giving you problems.  I have loaded and printed them in Repetier Host, SoliPrint, and MatterControl without issue.  Have you tried updating your printer software?

If you have a Raspberry Pi Model B then you need to print RPI 1 Model B Case Lower, and RPI 1 Model B Case Upper, if you have a Pi 2 or Pi 1 B+ then you need to print RPI 2 and B+ Case Lower, and RPI 2 and B+ Case Upper.  The case for the Pi B was just recently added and is a simpler design, but functions well.

The software for the WiFi adapter is already loaded on the SD card, so you should not need to install anything.

- Uriah

thanks for clearing that up. I still have more questions I posted in the Instructions topic.

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My Black filament I'm using (as I posted above) is not a humidity issue I learned today. but rather a manufacturers flaw as its way out of round and dia varies from 1.75mm to 2.01mm as you rotate it in your fingers in Micrometer at some points which caused it to jam mid print today. I think its Octave when I bought it and spool is that type but stickers on it only state size color and a part number G130824A1B100. I paid $35-$40 for it and its much poorer quality control than the cheap $15 stuff from Micro center or even DIY Filastruder suppliers.

UPDATE: its definitely Octave thats bad. I bought a few rolls of Octave nearly 2 years ago and kept them in sealed plastic bags with the desiccant plus all filament rolls are kept in an air tight tote in room I print in which is never humid. they just started using a crescent sticker on side of spools which was not on any of them 2 years ago so in short avoid Octave filament like an STD if you want good prints without damaging printer. better to use the $5 ones from China on ebay.

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