1 Topic by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Topic: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

E3D is offering £25 in store credit for write-ups on installing a v6 into a Solidoodle. I am offering the option of getting $40 instead from the Filastruder store. More details here:

http://wiki.e3d-online.com/index.php?ti … umentation

If you plan to do it, post in this thread so others know you're working on it. Once complete, PM me for your store credit.

If you have other useful ideas for documentation that you would like to contribute, post them here and we'll advise what sort of store credit would be applicable.

Enjoy!

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

2 Reply by jagowilson (edited by jagowilson 2015-01-21 16:33:59)

  • jagowilson
  • PRINTiT
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-09-14
  • Posts: 1,701

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

Sure I'd be willing to do this. I can probably finish it by the weekend. Is it okay to refer to external sources of documentation for flashing the boards? I only have experience flashing the RUMBA, but the rest of it is pretty standard. As far as hookup goes I can get pictures of a sang and printrboard no problem.

3 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

If those sources are confirmed correct/working by other folks, then sure. They also need to be integrated into the wiki itself so it doesn't rely on other websites.

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

4 Reply by DePartedPrinter

  • DePartedPrinter
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Colorado
  • Registered: 2012-08-14
  • Posts: 1,478

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

who is going to do the Press E3d mod?

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

5 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

All you if you want it!

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

6 Reply by wardjr

  • wardjr
  • wardjr
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Minnesota
  • Registered: 2013-06-10
  • Posts: 5,624

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

mwillie won one for the Christmas Giveaway.  At that time I assured him we would help him figure out how to get it working on his new Press.  I would love to see him dive into this project.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

wardjr's Website

7 Reply by DePartedPrinter

  • DePartedPrinter
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Colorado
  • Registered: 2012-08-14
  • Posts: 1,478

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

elmoret wrote:

All you if you want it!

The mount that will have to be designed to work with the Press is going to be a little more tricky than Lawsy's MK5.

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

8 Reply by wardjr

  • wardjr
  • wardjr
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Minnesota
  • Registered: 2013-06-10
  • Posts: 5,624

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

would it be easier to just replace the whole carriage?

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

wardjr's Website

9 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

DePartedPrinter wrote:
elmoret wrote:

All you if you want it!

The mount that will have to be designed to work with the Press is going to be a little more tricky than Lawsy's MK5.

Why? Can't you pull off that cast piece and replace it with what amounts to a MK5 with holes in the right place to attach to the carriage?

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

10 Reply by DePartedPrinter

  • DePartedPrinter
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Colorado
  • Registered: 2012-08-14
  • Posts: 1,478

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

elmoret wrote:
DePartedPrinter wrote:
elmoret wrote:

All you if you want it!

The mount that will have to be designed to work with the Press is going to be a little more tricky than Lawsy's MK5.

Why? Can't you pull off that cast piece and replace it with what amounts to a MK5 with holes in the right place to attach to the carriage?


That might work. People will obviously have to buy the hardware for the tensioner arm. I need my printer in front of me to visualize it.

Either way an E3D should fix some of the feeding issues people are having with the Press because that cast piece.

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

11 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

http://public.mlabs.us/ZZ4A97DBB9.jpg

I think you should be able to drop in some vertical holes to the existing MK5, maybe notch it a bit at the back. Gonna be tough to do it without one in front of me, maybe I shouldn't have cancelled big_smile

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

12 Reply by DePartedPrinter

  • DePartedPrinter
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Colorado
  • Registered: 2012-08-14
  • Posts: 1,478

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

elmoret wrote:

maybe I shouldn't have cancelled big_smile


+1 you shouldn't have cancelled. You're really missing out on all the fun...so am I though until that heater shows up.

My only fear with doing an E3D is the 1/16 microstepping on the board. I had no choice but to go to a 1/32 microstepping driver on my SD2 to fix moire issues when I went to an E3D.

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

13 Reply by wardjr

  • wardjr
  • wardjr
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Minnesota
  • Registered: 2013-06-10
  • Posts: 5,624

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

That's why they sell the Rumba wink

And +1 Tim you shouldn't have cancelled.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

wardjr's Website

14 Reply by IronMan

  • IronMan
  • IronMan
  • PRINTiT
  • Offline
  • From: SC
  • Registered: 2012-09-14
  • Posts: 1,269

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

DePartedPrinter wrote:
elmoret wrote:

maybe I shouldn't have cancelled big_smile


+1 you shouldn't have cancelled. You're really missing out on all the fun...so am I though until that heater shows up.

My only fear with doing an E3D is the 1/16 microstepping on the board. I had no choice but to go to a 1/32 microstepping driver on my SD2 to fix moire issues when I went to an E3D.

+1 Wish I actually ordered one to begin with sad  Sitting here with an SD2 is like reading yesterday's news...

Also, if you could build a geared extruder drive into the new carriage, should help with the moire.

SD2 - Stock - Enclosure - Heated Bed - Glass Plate - Auto Fire Extinguisher
Ord Bot Hadron - RAMPS 1.4 - Bulldog XL - E3D v6 - 10" x 10" PCB Heated Build w/SSR - Glass Plate
Thanks for All of Your Help!

15 Reply by DePartedPrinter

  • DePartedPrinter
  • Moderator
  • Offline
  • From: Colorado
  • Registered: 2012-08-14
  • Posts: 1,478

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

wardjr wrote:

That's why they sell the Rumba wink


Then the Press is no longer a bargain for me...although a Rumba would be nice.

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

16 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

DePartedPrinter wrote:

My only fear with doing an E3D is the 1/16 microstepping on the board. I had no choice but to go to a 1/32 microstepping driver on my SD2 to fix moire issues when I went to an E3D.

So replace the stepper instead.

http://www.omc-stepperonline.com/9deg-n … p-267.html

$11, just like a DRV8825 smile

https://www.pololu.com/product/2982

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

17 Reply by jagowilson

  • jagowilson
  • PRINTiT
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-09-14
  • Posts: 1,701

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

Does one have to stick with a D shaft on the press? Will the hobbed gear work on a round shaft? Just curious, in case someone has a stepper lying around they could use wink

18 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

Extruder stepper on the Press:
http://public.mlabs.us/ZZ51F8645B.jpg
http://www.smartautomation.com.cn/Produ … icleID=498
SM42HT38-1684A
2.8v/1.68a/50oz-in/0.28kg

SD2/3/4 extruder stepper:
http://www.smartautomation.com.cn/Produ … icleID=497
SM42HT33-1334A
2.8v/1.33a/30oz-in/0.22kg

The stepper I linked is rated for more holding torque than both of the above.

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

19 Reply by elmoret

  • elmoret
  • Filastruder
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2012-10-11
  • Posts: 6,048

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

DePartedPrinter wrote:
elmoret wrote:

All you if you want it!

The mount that will have to be designed to work with the Press is going to be a little more tricky than Lawsy's MK5.

http://public.mlabs.us/ZZ0896BDFC.jpg
http://public.mlabs.us/ZZ0BC69BE7.jpg

So it looks like the front face of the L bracket sticks out about 3mm further than the front face of the IM carriage.

That's great news, it means if the bracket was notched to get to the stepper's lower left hole, you could use a stock Lawsy MK5. The other option would be modifying the MK5 to add a runner up the left side to get to the top left hole.

You'd also need to either lower the Z probe or raise the L bracket. I'd guess raising the L bracket is easier.

Options: print a spacer plate that goes between the L-bracket and the IM carriage. Looks like you'd need 27mm or spacing or so. Could also laser cut 4 of them at 6.35mm each.

There's about 73mm between the center of the stepper shaft and the tip of the nozzle on an E3Dv6/SD3. If you get a chance, could you measure the same distance on the press? It looks like about 60mm from the photos I've seen.

Filastruder - the robust, inexpensive filament extruder
E3Dv6 All Metal Hotend - the premier 3D printing hotend

20 Reply by mwille

  • mwille
  • mwille
  • Member
  • Offline
  • From: Southeast Kansas
  • Registered: 2014-10-12
  • Posts: 55

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

wardjr wrote:

mwillie won one for the Christmas Giveaway.  At that time I assured him we would help him figure out how to get it working on his new Press.  I would love to see him dive into this project.

Yes, I want to do this at some point.  Still waiting on my printer, and since I'm a complete newbie I will most likely wait until I get some experience printing with stock equipment first.  It will be great if there's a step-by-step guide by then.

SD Press
Modeling software: 123D Design

21 Reply by shields1.as

  • shields1.as
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-09-02
  • Posts: 398

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

Putting the volcano on as soon as it gets in tomorrow. Gunna go with the Bowden set up.

22 Reply by aecarver

  • aecarver
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-08-25
  • Posts: 24

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

shields1.as wrote:

Putting the volcano on as soon as it gets in tomorrow. Gunna go with the Bowden set up.


How did the install go?

23 Reply by shields1.as

  • shields1.as
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-09-02
  • Posts: 398

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

My package still hasn't arrived. so I'm currently twiddling my thumbs

aecarver wrote:
shields1.as wrote:

Putting the volcano on as soon as it gets in tomorrow. Gunna go with the Bowden set up.


How did the install go?

24 Reply by jagowilson

  • jagowilson
  • PRINTiT
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-09-14
  • Posts: 1,701

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

jagowilson wrote:

Sure I'd be willing to do this. I can probably finish it by the weekend. Is it okay to refer to external sources of documentation for flashing the boards? I only have experience flashing the RUMBA, but the rest of it is pretty standard. As far as hookup goes I can get pictures of a sang and printrboard no problem.

I'm running behind but I'll still do my best to finish this weekend.

25 Reply by shields1.as

  • shields1.as
  • Member
  • Offline
  • Registered: 2014-09-02
  • Posts: 398

Re: $40/£25 Store Credit for E3Dv6 Install Documentation

After removing the stock solidoodle peek hot end. I also replaced the acrylic with the printed pieces. I spliced the cooling fan in with the extruder fan and used couplers to crimp the heater block and thermostat wires into the old thermostat and heater wires. I made sure the extruder was very secure. I then had to lower the bed level screw for the z axis as well.