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Topic: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

SD3, stock extruder, 1.75 ABS filament. Tried different temps from 200 to 185, same thing. It will heat up and print for a few minutes then shuts off and stops extruding. I checked the connectors, etc. nothing obvious. Prints pretty well while its working.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Topic should say "Stock extruder."

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

possible short in the wiring to the hot end? 

That's all I can think of... check the connections at the resistor point and see if you're touching the block in any way.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

What's it say in the log file of RH?

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

cold extrusion prevented

not much help

I'll watch the log closer, see if it says anything else.

Thanks.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Hey heartlander, should be a pretty easy fix here. It sounds like you wires in your extruder are a little loose. take a small flat blade screwdriver and push the wires in the connectors firmly.

These IDC connectors have a bad habit of not crimping well. I have a hand crimper for them and I still get intermittent connections every now and then.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Heartlander wrote:

cold extrusion prevented

not much help

I'll watch the log closer, see if it says anything else.

Thanks.

That's actually a lot of help - you just have to think about it. If it thinks it is too cold to extrude, one of two things are happening:

1.) The hotend is actually too cold to extrude, which means you either have it set below the minimum temperature, or the heater is not delivering enough heat.
2.) The connection for the thermistor is failing, which results in it thinking it is colder than it is. This can be trouble because it tries to dump heat into the hotend to boost temperature, but if it is reading cooler than actual, you could exceed the maximum temperature rating of the PEEK.

Once you have determined the possible causes for the error, troubleshooting is pretty simple. For example, once you see the error you should try manually pushing filament through the hotend. If it flows, you know it is hot enough.

Number 2 is more likely, because the connecters are not crimped well as 2n2r5 said.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Thanks, guys. I'll check those connectors. Is it normal for the extruder temp to swing back and forth within 7-8C of the set value or is that another clue to a problem?

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Heartlander wrote:

Thanks, guys. I'll check those connectors. Is it normal for the extruder temp to swing back and forth within 7-8C of the set value or is that another clue to a problem?

You'll want to run PID Autotune to cut that down:
http://www.soliwiki.com/PID_tuning

Repetier-Host EEPROM Procedure
To start the autotune process we will use the same command as above:
M303 S200 C5

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

3d-oodler wrote:
Heartlander wrote:

Thanks, guys. I'll check those connectors. Is it normal for the extruder temp to swing back and forth within 7-8C of the set value or is that another clue to a problem?

You'll want to run PID Autotune to cut that down:
http://www.soliwiki.com/PID_tuning

Repetier-Host EEPROM Procedure
To start the autotune process we will use the same command as above:
M303 S200 C5

It can also be a sign of poor connection, especially if it doesn't happen with the print head stationary.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

I was able to print for an extended period last night without it tripping off, then when it sat idle between parts, it tripped again, even set on 190C. So, it seems like the filament actually cools the barrel enough to keep it from snaggeling, but idle, it overheats. I'll try that PID Autotune. Thanks.

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Overheats? You said the error reported was temperature too low...?

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Re: Atock extruder, heater keeps shutting down.

Wellll.... I see a broken wire at the extruder. Think that could influence it's performance?

Grr. Oh well, I'll take that kinda problem any day.

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