1 (edited by dubbsd 2017-12-26 18:04:10)

Topic: ABS filament diameter

I always take several measurements the first 10 ft of a roll and write thye average diameter on the roll than when I use that roll I set the diameter in the software. Someone gave me 3 rolls of Esun the stuff runs good but the diameter is low.
here is a chart of what I have and the diameters  I have always used Makerbot and it is usually spot on but expensive.
does the other brands of ABS very widely or are they spot on at (1.77).
http://soliforum.com/i/?cev5nZT.jpg

Thanks
Dale

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Re: ABS filament diameter

I use $10/kg filament, so I skip the diameter test.

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Re: ABS filament diameter

yizhou.he wrote:

I use $10/kg filament, so I skip the diameter test.

and that right there is why your comments dont get respect. Youll never get good quality prints without proper calibrations

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4 (edited by carl_m1968 2017-12-26 18:35:44)

Re: ABS filament diameter

yizhou.he wrote:

I use $10/kg filament, so I skip the diameter test.


The diameter test is a required part of printer calibration regardless of the filament cost. The diameter controls the feed rate when it is put into the slicer software.

Getting this wrong is where many make a mistake and as a result they get over or under extrusion. This has to be done with each and every roll.

This should be considered one of your more important calibration steps as it directly impacts print quality.

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Re: ABS filament diameter

Kronikabuse wrote:
yizhou.he wrote:

I use $10/kg filament, so I skip the diameter test.

and that right there is why your comments dont get respect. Youll never get good quality prints without proper calibrations

I don't have print quality issue. and most my printed part fit to each other well.

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Re: ABS filament diameter

yizhou.he wrote:
Kronikabuse wrote:
yizhou.he wrote:

I use $10/kg filament, so I skip the diameter test.

and that right there is why your comments dont get respect. Youll never get good quality prints without proper calibrations

I don't have print quality issue. and most my printed part fit to each other well.


Come to think of it, have you ever posted a print from your $10 dollar filament? I would honestly like to see this print with no issues without proper calibration. Again what one person says has no issues or is a good print is subjective. Let your peers be the judge.

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7 (edited by yizhou.he 2017-12-26 19:47:57)

Re: ABS filament diameter

carl_m1968 wrote:
yizhou.he wrote:

I use $10/kg filament, so I skip the diameter test.


The diameter test is a required part of printer calibration regardless of the filament cost. The diameter controls the feed rate when it is put into the slicer software.

Getting this wrong is where many make a mistake and as a result they get over or under extrusion. This has to be done with each and every roll.

This should be considered one of your more important calibration steps as it directly impacts print quality.

I do calibrate my feed rate experimentally for new filament, I just don't bother the measure the diameter. I only care if it is right diameter as long as it print out right. The diameter of filament difference does not directly translate to feed rate change, so I just calibrate my feed rate.

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Re: ABS filament diameter

carl_m1968 wrote:

Come to think of it, have you ever posted a print from your $10 dollar filament? I would honestly like to see this print with no issues without proper calibration. Again what one person says has no issues or is a good print is subjective. Let your peers be the judge.

The image does not look as nice as real object. It looks better when scale to real object size. There are definitely room for improvement, but good enough for what I need to do. I'm not doing it for art purpose, and I do some light sanding if parts don't fit perfectly.

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=10667&download=0

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