1 (edited by Telemachus 2016-02-04 23:39:19)

Topic: Mod Podge--- Best adhesion yet!

I was fed up with my corners warping.   I have been going through glue sticks like butter.   Painter's tape didn't quite cut it either, as I had to reapply almost every time, which is a pain since we can't take the bed out.  Hairspray gets all over everywhere.

In desperation yesterday, I grabbed by wife's bottle of mod podge and said "what the hay."

Using a foam brush, I painted a thin layer on the bed and hit print on a large print that took up most of the print bed.

And got the best print I have seen yet!!

Perfect adhesion!

Now, getting the piece off was another chore, as it was stuck on their pretty tight.  Using a water soaked towel and surrounding the piece, little by little I was able to finally get it off without breaking the glass.

I watered down the mod podge with 1:1 water, and did another print overnight.  Good adhesion, and only took half the work to get it off.  I then did 1:2 with water, and have been printing for the last 8 hours.  No warping, all looks good.

Hopefully I have found the right mixture that I will be able to get the piece off without too much work.  Nothing yet in my experience beats being able to just paint on a thin layer of watered down mod podge.

I have read about similar processed with elmer's glue, so I guess this isn't anything too new... but I like it!

Da Vinci 1.0a.  Repetier 0.92.  E3D V6.  Titan Extruder.  Sllic3r.  Octoprint on Raspberry Pi B+.

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Telemachus wrote:

I was fed up with my corners warping.   I have been going through glue sticks like butter.   Painter's tape didn't quite cut it either, as I had to reapply almost every time, which is a pain since we can't take the bed out.  Hairspray gets all over everywhere.

In desperation yesterday, I grabbed by wife's bottle of mod podge and said "what the hay."

Using a foam brush, I painted a thin layer on the bed and hit print on a large print that took up most of the print bed.

And got the best print I have seen yet!!

Perfect adhesion!

Now, getting the piece off was another chore, as it was stuck on their pretty tight.  Using a water soaked towel and surrounding the piece, little by little I was able to finally get it off without breaking the glass.

I watered down the mod podge with 1:1 water, and did another print overnight.  Good adhesion, and only took half the work to get it off.  I then did 1:2 with water, and have been printing for the last 8 hours.  No warping, all looks good.

Hopefully I have found the right mixture that I will be able to get the piece off without too much work.  Nothing yet in my experience beats being able to just paint on a thin layer of watered down mod podge.

I have read about similar processed with elmer's glue, so I guess this isn't anything too new... but I like it!

You should still try aquanet hairspray on bare glass or Kapton.. It holds as long as the bed is hot. Once the bed cools near room temp the part can be picked up with no effort. No corner issues ever..

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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I'll pick up some aqua net...  but I think I'd rather have a separate piece of glass to put on the bed first...

Da Vinci 1.0a.  Repetier 0.92.  E3D V6.  Titan Extruder.  Sllic3r.  Octoprint on Raspberry Pi B+.

4 (edited by carl_m1968 2016-02-05 05:26:35)

Re: Mod Podge--- Best adhesion yet!

Telemachus wrote:

I'll pick up some aqua net...  but I think I'd rather have a separate piece of glass to put on the bed first...


Easy, go to home depot. Get an 8 x 10 picture glass, buy a glass cutter and cut it. If your not the DIYer then go to your local glass shop and have them do one the same dimensions as stock in 3mm thick glass. Get several done just in case..

Printing since 2009 and still love it!
Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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carl_m1968 wrote:
Telemachus wrote:

I'll pick up some aqua net...  but I think I'd rather have a separate piece of glass to put on the bed first...


Easy, go to home depot. Get an 8 x 10 picture glass, buy a glass cutter and cut it. If your not the DIYer then go to your local glass shop and have them do one the same dimensions as stock in 3mm thick glass. Get several done just in case..

Thanks, carl.  Ace will cut it for me, that is my gameplan for tomorrow.

Da Vinci 1.0a.  Repetier 0.92.  E3D V6.  Titan Extruder.  Sllic3r.  Octoprint on Raspberry Pi B+.

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carl_m1968 wrote:
Telemachus wrote:

I was fed up with my corners warping.   I have been going through glue sticks like butter.   Painter's tape didn't quite cut it either, as I had to reapply almost every time, which is a pain since we can't take the bed out.  Hairspray gets all over everywhere.

In desperation yesterday, I grabbed by wife's bottle of mod podge and said "what the hay."

Using a foam brush, I painted a thin layer on the bed and hit print on a large print that took up most of the print bed.

And got the best print I have seen yet!!

Perfect adhesion!

Now, getting the piece off was another chore, as it was stuck on their pretty tight.  Using a water soaked towel and surrounding the piece, little by little I was able to finally get it off without breaking the glass.

I watered down the mod podge with 1:1 water, and did another print overnight.  Good adhesion, and only took half the work to get it off.  I then did 1:2 with water, and have been printing for the last 8 hours.  No warping, all looks good.

Hopefully I have found the right mixture that I will be able to get the piece off without too much work.  Nothing yet in my experience beats being able to just paint on a thin layer of watered down mod podge.

I have read about similar processed with elmer's glue, so I guess this isn't anything too new... but I like it!

You should still try aquanet hairspray on bare glass or Kapton.. It holds as long as the bed is hot. Once the bed cools near room temp the part can be picked up with no effort. No corner issues ever..

I second the hairspray and some glue idea. Works great for me, wait until the part cooled off but not TOO long and it comes off almost by itself.

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This guy has some good tips about the bed causing banding and warping and he just uses the hair spray.  Start watching at 11:30..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdSmNPBqdl8