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Time to move my SD outside...
...or take up smoking
the next thing you know Solidoodle will be having to putting a Surgeon General warning on the side off the machine
...or take up smoking
perfect solution
or the next color filament will be 'mary j green' 
LOL
So..... If you must run it inside your house. Plan on running it enclosed and a vent that is pulling air from the cabinet to the outside during the time that the printer is going to be run. Perhaps also a few minutes after it has been shut down.
Are there people actually running it outside?
So..... If you must run it inside your house. Plan on running it enclosed and a vent that is pulling air from the cabinet to the outside during the time that the printer is going to be run. Perhaps also a few minutes after it has been shut down.
Welcome back!
That's exactly what I do, by the way:
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/942/post … t-station/
I've since upgraded to a 4" ducted bilge fan and dryer tubing. I can't detect a hint of ABS smell anymore.
I've since upgraded to a 4" ducted bilge fan and dryer tubing. I can't detect a hint of ABS smell anymore.
Hows the serenity with that Bilge pump ? I use an Inline 4" Bilge Blower on the laser for fume extraction.. and the neighbours they don't like it
I keep meaning to see if some high CF/M 80mm fans will do a sufficent job whilst still allowing me to operate it without complaints...
What about building a forced air vent system with a fiberglass wadding in the exit end. It may work.
<marketing> PLA is 10x safer than other materials! </marketing>
OK, PLA is still bad but if you must 3D Print....
elmoret wrote:I've since upgraded to a 4" ducted bilge fan and dryer tubing. I can't detect a hint of ABS smell anymore.
Hows the serenity with that Bilge pump ? I use an Inline 4" Bilge Blower on the laser for fume extraction.. and the neighbours they don't like it
I keep meaning to see if some high CF/M 80mm fans will do a sufficent job whilst still allowing me to operate it without complaints...
I run it at 5v, can't hear it over the printers.
At 12v it sounded like I had ducted a tornado to my window.
Downeasta wrote:So..... If you must run it inside your house. Plan on running it enclosed and a vent that is pulling air from the cabinet to the outside during the time that the printer is going to be run. Perhaps also a few minutes after it has been shut down.
Welcome back!
That's exactly what I do, by the way:
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/942/post … t-station/
I've since upgraded to a 4" ducted bilge fan and dryer tubing. I can't detect a hint of ABS smell anymore.
How would you rate the pibb can performance now that you've put it through the paces? 
Ha!
That camera actually got thrown in the drawer once I moved to 2+ Solidoodles. The FX160's CPU couldn't handle it all.
What if you were to use a fan on the side of your enclosure that blew the air through some activated carbon? would that help to 'cleanse' the fumes?
Activated carbon would be more costly than venting outdoors.
If sound is a issue, you may want to consider using a "squirrel cage" type blower.
just doing a quick search I found this one. $24 (56 cfm)
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?i … e=electric
Activated carbon would be more costly than venting outdoors.
If sound is a issue, you may want to consider using a "squirrel cage" type blower.
just doing a quick search I found this one. $24 (56 cfm)
Looks ok, but I'm currently pushing 235cfm... so I'd want it to be quitier
http://www.amazon.com/Inline-Blower-235 … B001JHJ0WW
The high capacity 80mm fan solutions some people use in-lieu of the blower I have relies on having multiple fans to keep the flow rate reasonable.. it usually consists of 3-4 (1 at each headend, a central one, and depending on ducting length, an additional one). And yes, multiple fans in unto themselves reduce the available airflow capacity due to their increased air-resistance.. so I've left it all as a 'will need to experiment further when I get around to it'...
But thanks for the tip on the blower... might get one anyway for a rainy day...
I have been thinking of using granular activated carbon aquarium filter carbon,.
it come 5oz. for $6.49
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.j … lInUS%2FNo
blowers vs. fans
Blowers build a lot higher static pressure than axial fans, so their CFM doesn't drop much with increasing resistance.
IMO, you don't want a lot of airflow, you want a big pressure drop. You want the enclosure almost perfectly sealed, with a half a psi or so of difference between atmospheric and inside the Solidoodle. Then your build chamber stays warm, but fumes can't get out.
To get a blower at 200+ CFM the same above company offers a 320 CFM for $49.99. The only headache I see is at 320 CFM the doors might break when you try to open them from the negative pressure on the enclosure. But hey, its your headache.
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?i … e=electric
Better move your stove outside too because they say that's as bad as cigarettes as well. I'm not 100% convinced until they provide some data besides "its bad for you"
Gotta say my response is a huge "meh". Couple of reasons why:
1. Until I was three, I thought clouds were created by my chain smoking parents. By the time I moved out, my lungs had ingested enough second hand smoke to make my choice not to smoke pointless.
2. Somethings gonna kill ya at some point. Let me enjoy making stuff for awhile first, okay?
3. The report in the article mentions factory grade printers, not household printers. mine runs max four to six hours a day and in my garage when I'm mostly not around.
4. When I am in the garage, I tend to work on my other hobby, carpentry. I think the table saw, band saw, and compound miter saw have a better chance of ending my life.
In other words, printers gonna print! Let me be!
Are there people actually running it outside?
I run mine in my garage, with a side door open most often. I sometimes even run a fan (it's hot here in Texas) trying to keep the garage temperature below 120 or so. I wonder if the heat is helping my items stick better.
They really only state they measured it emitted ufp but not exactly what the upf are comprised of. Heck your house has enough emitters of ufp already ( vacuums,ovens laser printers,fax machines, candles etc). There was already a test showing abs filament emitted no HCN while printing.
But... But.... the PLA smells so good D:
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