26 Reply by redbarret (edited by redbarret 2015-02-15 18:32:48)

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Re: PID tuning heatbed fail, "timeout"... what?

I know almost nothing about chemistry, nor have I ever used hairspray (on my hair), so dunno.
Except I think we've all done this at some point:

I'll look into other hairspray brands I can find and look up their ingridients on the box.
And try the ABS slurry.

This one sticks the filament to the hot glass besides the parts that lift, so I guess its not completely useless and not doing nothing at all... or is it?

EDIT: Okay, this hairspray doesn't work for sticking glass to aluminum bed. Tried several coats and to 110C and back. Really poor adhesion that I could unstick with one finger.

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27 Reply by redbarret (edited by redbarret 2015-02-15 18:54:56)

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Re: PID tuning heatbed fail, "timeout"... what?

Also want to try the brim, but this is what I get:
http://i.imgur.com/DefMajr.png

There's a gap in the middle of the brim. I set 5mm for brim. And no, that's not skirt, skirt is default 1 loop...
Looks like this with every STL I try. Slic3r 1.1.7

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Re: PID tuning heatbed fail, "timeout"... what?

Try 0 loops for skirt...

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Re: PID tuning heatbed fail, "timeout"... what?

That did the trick, I guess its a bug and doesn't make much sense to have a skirt with a brim.

I also asked few other places abut what hairspray to use and thought I'd share the info here.

Someone said "Garnier Fructis Style extreme hold 5" works well.
http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607988140586174473&pid=15.1&H=160&W=160
http://i.imgur.com/tZdMXeA.jpg

Someone else recommended "Rave 4X Mega"
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607997323226252128&pid=15.1&H=160&W=160

Ingredients

SD Alcohol 40-B (Alcohol Denat.) , Water (Aqua) , Acrylates Copolymer , VA , Crotonates Vinyl Neodecanoate Copolymer , Aminomethyl Propanol , Fragrance , Diethylhexyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate , Sodium Benzoate , PEG , PPG-20 , 15 Dimethicone , Cyclopentasiloxane , Benzophenone 4 , Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C) , Tocopherol (Vitamin E)

And
"Aquanet and liquid PVA glue active ingredient - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate
"
Looks like also something in wood glues and some glue sticks. Maybe my glue stick doesn't contain it which would explain why it didn't work at all.

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