1 (edited by ggunners 2014-02-10 21:51:49)

Topic: Z banding with taller object

This print of YSB's The Huntress shows increased banding from her upper lip and above. I am not sure why that happened.  I have printed with the Solidoodle natural filament before and the Solidoofle red shows the filament and the banding a lot more than natural. Can anyone explain why the banding became worse at that point in the print?

Also, i have several little white nits on the red print and have heard that a Q-tip and Acetone would make them red again. Is that the best way to finish this print besides the Acetone vapor method? -- ggunners

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SD2 Expert stock, ABS fume fan,
XYZ DaVinci 1.0 stock ABS, Simplify3D
QUBD Two-Up PLA, new 3D printed X gantry, Y idler, flex z coupler, extruder mount, E3D Lite

2 (edited by adrian 2014-02-11 00:20:12)

Re: Z banding with taller object

re banding - can be a few things. Slightly bent z-screw, which causes more pressure during rotations in particular directions - for this it will *usually* appear in the same place repetitively.. BUT...

The banding can also just be good old fashion bushings play on the z-table and the screw is behaving normally so to speak... For this, a good generous reapplication of lube along with trying to 'pack the bearings' with lube.. this will both free up movement and if using a decent viscous lube limit play slightly.

For similar reasons to the bent screw - bent z-axis rods can also cause the problem to amplify. Try rotating the rods 180° and see if the problem moves to the opposite side of the prints... Tall square columns are good test pieces for this

Its also worth checking that your extruder itself is tight - remember on stock carriages there needs to be a slight amount of pivot to prevent binding, but often the rear nylon block can become loose and cause wobbles in the print head that exhibit similar symptoms to z-banding. Also check the extruder/motor mounts.. smaller layers mean more rapid velocity changes (until it hits the slowdowns for cooling) with a higher frequency that can overlap other vibrations from previous moves..

For cleaning up the white bits - quite often a good wash with water will clean it up surprisingly well. Or Isopropyl Alcohol.

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Re: Z banding with taller object

Thanks Adrian. The Z rod was never straight. I will try a tall square piece and see if the banding changes near the center of the SD2 z rod travel. Perhaps I reached a new height on the Z. I will check the other things too. -- ggunners

SD2 Expert stock, ABS fume fan,
XYZ DaVinci 1.0 stock ABS, Simplify3D
QUBD Two-Up PLA, new 3D printed X gantry, Y idler, flex z coupler, extruder mount, E3D Lite

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Re: Z banding with taller object

adrain said:
The banding can also just be good old fashion bushings play on the z-table and the screw is behaving normally so to speak... For this, a good generous reapplication of lube along with trying to 'pack the bearings' with lube.. this will both free up movement and if using a decent viscous lube limit play slightly.

I  had my SD3 about a year now.  noticed a lot of play in the Z rod bushing, I wonder if they are replaceable.,The  platform seems to have a constant downward tilt. because of that.

SD3, E3D hotend,linear bearing on x/y axis',pillow block bearing on y conneting rod, ball bearngs on front y axis, fan on y stepper motor.

5 (edited by adrian 2014-03-02 05:24:40)

Re: Z banding with taller object

if cleaning them up (they can bind with crud at a +/-5° angle ) doesnt work you can replace them.
Here is an example: http://www.qbcbearings.com/BuyRFQ/Press … _CSR_I.htm ; BDBRSS-S375 is a functional equivalent...

should be able to locate them few places, Just look for self-aligning sintered bronze bushings ... stock rods are 3/8ths...