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If all your axis are moving properly and you now have the extruder working properly, you need to confirm the bed heats and then move on to steps per mm calibration on each motor as I mentioned in the previous post.

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carl_m1968 wrote:

If all your axis are moving properly and you now have the extruder working properly, you need to confirm the bed heats and then move on to steps per mm calibration on each motor as I mentioned in the previous post.

alright, how critical is bed heat with PETG.

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evanboothe wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:

If all your axis are moving properly and you now have the extruder working properly, you need to confirm the bed heats and then move on to steps per mm calibration on each motor as I mentioned in the previous post.

alright, how critical is bed heat with PETG.

I use 65 with no issue on small to medium objects. For very large almost full bed objects I use 95.

What you may find that others as well as myself found out is that the stock power supply does not heat the bed and extruder as well after the mainboard is changed.

At least this was the case going to a RAMPS. I had to get a higher wattage supply.

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carl_m1968 wrote:
evanboothe wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:

If all your axis are moving properly and you now have the extruder working properly, you need to confirm the bed heats and then move on to steps per mm calibration on each motor as I mentioned in the previous post.

alright, how critical is bed heat with PETG.

I use 65 with no issue on small to medium objects. For very large almost full bed objects I use 95.

What you may find that others as well as myself found out is that the stock power supply does not heat the bed and extruder as well after the mainboard is changed.

At least this was the case going to a RAMPS. I had to get a higher wattage supply.

I think I may have a differnt thermistor in the print bed.. how do I find out what is in it? Is there a way? Or should I just order a known brand thermistor and put it in so I know what it is.

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evanboothe wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:
evanboothe wrote:

alright, how critical is bed heat with PETG.

I use 65 with no issue on small to medium objects. For very large almost full bed objects I use 95.

What you may find that others as well as myself found out is that the stock power supply does not heat the bed and extruder as well after the mainboard is changed.

At least this was the case going to a RAMPS. I had to get a higher wattage supply.

I think I may have a differnt thermistor in the print bed.. how do I find out what is in it? Is there a way? Or should I just order a known brand thermistor and put it in so I know what it is.


Yep that was another issue. They used a weird uncommon thermistor for the bed. Just get an common EPCOS100K like the firmware is set up for and you will be fine. I used a dremel and cut a channel in the plastic under the bed for the thermistor to fit in so it measured closer to the middle of the bed instead of the edge.

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So I have the board adjusted to .1 mm gap from extruder at z home position. I sliced a object and my g code brought the board down to z15... how do I correct this. Once the print starts the bed comes up to where I assume it thing .1 below the extruder is but the tip of the extruder is rubbing the build tak even though I leveled the bed at 0 to .1 gap.

Also I did a Bed Auto PID where do I input those values? I don’t see bed P I and D values.. only extruder values for PID.

Lastly, the object was placed in the middle of the bed on host but was rear right placed on actual bed. What’s the best way to correct this?

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On the smoothie there is no PID for the bed.. Like I said the normal control for a bed is fine. You just need to make sure the proper thermistor is selected.

For placement of the object you have to fudge your bed size. So how ever many mm it was sort of center on the x and y you need to increase your bed size in the slicer and host by that much. Firmware will prevent it from actually going of the bed even though in the host the bed will be larger than it really is.

For the gab you need to have the line in your start gcode like mine does. and you will need to adjust that number through trial and error to get it right.

It sounds like you did not use the paper method correctly. You are supposed to start a print. Once the head is over the bed and beginning the first line. you are to kill power. leaving the bed where it is, move the head around by hand and use the adjusters to achieve the paper gap at all four corners and the middle.

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carl_m1968 wrote:

On the smoothie there is no PID for the bed.. Like I said the normal control for a bed is fine. You just need to make sure the proper thermistor is selected.

For placement of the object you have to fudge your bed size. So how ever many mm it was sort of center on the x and y you need to increase your bed size in the slicer and host by that much. Firmware will prevent it from actually going of the bed even though in the host the bed will be larger than it really is.

For the gab you need to have the line in your start gcode like mine does. and you will need to adjust that number through trial and error to get it right.

It sounds like you did not use the paper method correctly. You are supposed to start a print. Once the head is over the bed and beginning the first line. you are to kill power. leaving the bed where it is, move the head around by hand and use the adjusters to achieve the paper gap at all four corners and the middle.


Ah, okay yeah I did the paper method at z home power off. Do I have to manually enter the beginning of the g code every print or is there a way to save it for future use? Can you post yours again so I can see it? Also you called it a GAB what does that stand for

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evanboothe wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:

On the smoothie there is no PID for the bed.. Like I said the normal control for a bed is fine. You just need to make sure the proper thermistor is selected.

For placement of the object you have to fudge your bed size. So how ever many mm it was sort of center on the x and y you need to increase your bed size in the slicer and host by that much. Firmware will prevent it from actually going of the bed even though in the host the bed will be larger than it really is.

For the gab you need to have the line in your start gcode like mine does. and you will need to adjust that number through trial and error to get it right.

It sounds like you did not use the paper method correctly. You are supposed to start a print. Once the head is over the bed and beginning the first line. you are to kill power. leaving the bed where it is, move the head around by hand and use the adjusters to achieve the paper gap at all four corners and the middle.


Ah, okay yeah I did the paper method at z home power off. Do I have to manually enter the beginning of the g code every print or is there a way to save it for future use? Can you post yours again so I can see it? Also you called it a GAB what does that stand for


I see where I said gap, but not GAB.. There is a place in your slicer to store start and end gcodes and those are appended by the slicer to each build. When you select your slicer I assume curaengine since you are using repetier you will click on the configure box.

It will open the actual slicer so you can make changes in it like machine dimensions, settings, and so on. The settings you make in the slicer over ride the settings in the host. so things like temp need to be the same in both.

Once you open the cura configuration. you will see a window with the Cura tab selected. In that window will be another window with the Print tab already selected. In that window with be multiple tabs Speed and quality, Structures, Extrusion, and g-codes. under that tab you can edit the Start gcode and End gcode.

Whatever you put in those will be added to the start of and end of every print by the slicer. So you could add a line to the end to move the bed all the way down once the print is done.

Slicer should have similar settings.

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So I’m having this issue after I slice a object and press print, everything heats up and the print starts.. I get about 3-4 movements in sometimes 5-6 then it just quits. Stays in the position it’s in and doesn’t do anything, nothing coming up in the log no errors and it says it’s still printing. But it just sits there.

Sorry it pops up in the log and says communication timeout - reset buffer block

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Do you have a display like the VIKI2 or mini Viki? If so copy the sliced gcode to an SD card and load and run it from the display. My guess is your power supply is not enough anymore or could be bad or too long USB cable. It should be connected directly with no hub and the shortest cable possible.

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carl_m1968 wrote:

Do you have a display like the VIKI2 or mini Viki? If so copy the sliced gcode to an SD card and load and run it from the display. My guess is your power supply is not enough anymore or could be bad or too long USB cable. It should be connected directly with no hub and the shortest cable possible.

yes viki 2 and yes the usb cable I am using is really long. What do you suggest for the best possible power supply

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I am under extruding 38.0mm when I try to extrude 100mm my current extruder Steps per minute is 140. What should I change the 140 to. It would be 225.8 correct? So I changed the extruder hot end steps mm to the value 225.8 and tried another 100mm run. And of course I now have another hot end issue. It seems as if my hot end keeps getting clogged or something! I clean the hot end out the extruder performs a 100mm run perfectly with a nice line of filament coming out of the hot end. I do my math to adjust the steps and while I am doing the math I had the hot end up to temp while I was doing the calculations. I enter my new value mark 100mm with a sharpie go to extrude another 100mm to see if it cleaned up the under extrusion and I get a very thin slow line of filament coming out the hot end and then nothing comes out. I release the filament and pull it out of the top of the extruder and it looks like the picture below. I don’t know if it’s pushing to hard on the filament or if the filament isn’t melting fast enough, I thought it might be a temp issue so I used a thermometer I have for the grille that is used for meat lol but the hot end is at the same temp as host says it is at. 250c.. I don’t know what else to try but I shouldnt have to take apart the hot end every 100mm of filament I put through the hot end. Like I said it’s a brand new e3d gold edition hot end. V6
http://soliforum.com/i/?z8A5mHt.jpg

http://soliforum.com/i/?xN3COad.jpg

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What speed are you extruding at? PETG has to extrude slow. You cannot run it at more than 35mm per second. It is not a material to use if plan to be pressed for time on prints as you cannot rush PETG.

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38:100 = 140:368    or 368 steps per mm
For some people basic ratio calculation are a struggle but there are various on line calculators that make it easy .

Just need to put the numbers you have in the correct block.

https://www.calculator.net/ratio-calcul … 4&y=18

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carl_m1968 wrote:

What speed are you extruding at? PETG has to extrude slow. You cannot run it at more than 35mm per second. It is not a material to use if plan to be pressed for time on prints as you cannot rush PETG.

Which line would determine my extruder speed?

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Tin Falcon wrote:

38:100 = 140:368    or 368 steps per mm
For some people basic ratio calculation are a struggle but there are various on line calculators that make it easy .

Just need to put the numbers you have in the correct block.

https://www.calculator.net/ratio-calcul … 4&y=18

Wait so I did the calculation wrong?

140 was my value before the 100mm feed test and it only extruded 62mm out of 100

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evanboothe wrote:
Tin Falcon wrote:

38:100 = 140:368    or 368 steps per mm
For some people basic ratio calculation are a struggle but there are various on line calculators that make it easy .

Just need to put the numbers you have in the correct block.

https://www.calculator.net/ratio-calcul … 4&y=18

Wait so I did the calculation wrong?

140 was my value before the 100mm feed test and it only extruded 62mm out of 100

You can go here,

http://3daddict.com/3d-printer-extruder … ion-steps/

about half way down they have a calculator that all you have to do is plug in the values and will tell you the change to make. Also make sure you are accounting for your microstepping as the calculator does.

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Will do, Carl you mentioned extruder speed.. is this the same value? If not what line should I be looking at?

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evanboothe wrote:

Will do, Carl you mentioned extruder speed.. is this the same value? If not what line should I be looking at?

I am at work so I do not have access to Repetier Host. What you are looking for is the print speed settings in the host. PETG should not be more than 35mm/s other wise you will get jams and strings.

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The setting is under your speed and quality tab in the Cura configuration manager. None of the speed settings except for travel should be set over 35 on the fast and probably 25 on the slow.

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carl_m1968 wrote:
evanboothe wrote:

Will do, Carl you mentioned extruder speed.. is this the same value? If not what line should I be looking at?

I am at work so I do not have access to Repetier Host. What you are looking for is the print speed settings in the host. PETG should not be more than 35mm/s other wise you will get jams and strings.

Took this picture this morning before work, wasn’t sure if this was the feed speed.
http://soliforum.com/i/?xeWGaXd.jpg

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Yes those are the set speeds and they are all too fast for PETG. Click on the box that says configuration and you can change them. Save those settings as PETG so you can use them on PETG then later make faster settings for PLA or ABS if you change.

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174 (edited by evanboothe 2018-09-12 17:19:50)

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carl_m1968 wrote:

Yes those are the set speeds and they are all too fast for PETG. Click on the box that says configuration and you can change them. Save those settings as PETG so you can use them on PETG then later make faster settings for PLA or ABS if you change.

What are the best speeds to start with for those 3 speed options? Also I did that calculation again on the supplied link you posted above and got the same number as before 225.8 steps per mm

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evanboothe wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:

Yes those are the set speeds and they are all too fast for PETG. Click on the box that says configuration and you can change them. Save those settings as PETG so you can use them on PETG then later make faster settings for PLA or ABS if you change.

What are the best speeds to start with for those 3 speed options? Also I did that calculation again on the supplied link you posted above and got the same number as before 225.8 steps per mm


What microstepping value do you have the extruder enabled for? To be honest there is no need for any microstepping but if you are using it you need to be sure you are accounting for it. I have mine on my CT's set for 32 and steps per mm are 203. So yours are not too far off.

As for the speeds just them all for 35 as the high and 25 as the low. Again this is only PETG. ABS and PLA you will probably be able to get over 40mm/s.

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