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Topic: Glas Bed SD2

Hi Guys,

i have a 20 x 20 cm of 2mm Glass here can i use this as a GlasBed?
and do i have to remove the Organe tape which is on my Heated Bed?
What is the max. tempreture which i can use with the glas bed?
do i need aceton ? or Hairspray also with the glasbed??

thx 4 answer

2 (edited by EagleSeven 2015-07-11 13:58:54)

Re: Glas Bed SD2

I added 6"x9"x 3/32" glass to plate . (Had it cut at hardware-store)
(Don't think I would use any glass thinner than that)
Had to adjust height of nozzles for added glass.
I did Not add anything else or remove anything from plate, left same as from factory.
I just use metal clips to hold it in place.
It's normal glass, not special-tempered glass,
and I've had it up to 100 deg C , about 40 or 50 times, with no problems.
I use hair-spray , can even spray it on when glass is Hot.
Be sure to let hairspray Dry before starting print.
Easy to clean the glass with wet cloth.

It's worked great ! smile

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last question on this smile

Heating up ur bed and letting it cool down than print or is ur heated bed at tempreture during the print?

like 1. Heated Bed to 100° than hairspray -> cooling to ~20°(room tempreture) -> printing?
Or
Heated bet to 100° than Hairspray -> cooling to ~80°

smth like this? sry 4 bad englisch

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You want to print it with the bed still hot.

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Mahkz wrote:

last question on this smile

Heating up ur bed and letting it cool down than print or is ur heated bed at tempreture during the print?

like 1. Heated Bed to 100° than hairspray -> cooling to ~20°(room tempreture) -> printing?
Or
Heated bet to 100° than Hairspray -> cooling to ~80°

smth like this? sry 4 bad englisch

Yes, for most objects you want to keep bed hot during complete print.

It's best to spray before bed gets hot, so it will not stress the glass and you want hairspray completely dry before printing.

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EagleSeven wrote:

I added 6"x9"x 3/32" glass to plate . (Had it cut at hardware-store)
(Don't think I would use any glass thinner than that)
Had to adjust height of nozzles for added glass.
I did Not add anything else or remove anything from plate, left same as from factory.
I just use metal clips to hold it in place.
It's normal glass, not special-tempered glass,
and I've had it up to 100 deg C , about 40 or 50 times, with no problems.
I use hair-spray , can even spray it on when glass is Hot.
Be sure to let hairspray Dry before starting print.
Easy to clean the glass with wet cloth.

It's worked great ! smile

the metal clips will eventually cause the glass to warp - try this...

remove the clips and the glass...lower your bed away from the print head
with the bed cool, spray the stock heat bed with hairspray
spray the bottom of you glass with hairspray
Not a lot on either, but a nice even coat..
Place the glass on the stock heat bed
heat the bed to around 60C and let cool for a couple of cycles
the glass will not move around, but you can still pry it loose fairly easily if you need to

put those metal clips to better use keeping bags of snacks from getting stale, or something of that nature. smile

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First thing I did was ad glass right on top the tape use binder clips and hairspray. been printing almost a year . SD4 with pla.
Tin

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8 (edited by EagleSeven 2015-07-12 14:36:58)

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heartless wrote:

spray the stock heat bed with hairspray
spray the bottom of you glass with hairspray

Thanks for Info,
I thought about doing that but was worried that might make glass to difficult to remove if needed.
I will try it !

I never really Liked the Clips there anyway ! smile

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!!! How long does it take for Spray to Dry,
between bed-plate and glass ???
I've had it heated for over an hour and it's Still not Dry ! sad

I still have the **** clips on, holding it until dry! LOL tongue

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How hot? It really takes three heat/cool cycles at about 100.  Should only take you about ten minutes but the cool cycle is critical.

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11 (edited by EagleSeven 2015-07-12 18:06:20)

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I was just getting Impatient , since I wanted to print a Fan-Duct, NOW . LOL tongue
I was surprised how long it is taking, since spray dries so fast on Top of glass .
Evidently spray needs good air-flow to dry, like some other glues.
It's been over 2 hours , at 100 C, and still not completely dry,
but it is almost dry now, I think ! smile

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Once it cools completely it'll dry fine.

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13 (edited by heartless 2015-07-13 03:35:50)

Re: Glas Bed SD2

you must have put it on pretty heavy if it still wasnt dry after 2 hours!

on the rare occasion I take my glass off, just a light misting on each piece - just enough to lightly dampen the surface, set the glass in place, I usually only need one heat/cool cycle, and I am set to go.

and you only need to bring it up to temp, then shut it off & let it cool - completely - repeat if needed. you dont need to let it stay at temp for long.

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I also printed one of the Z switch adjusting screw brackets off Thingiverse to get the home bed hieght set correct without running out of room on screw. and I still keep a thin layer of glue stick on glass when printing ABS. works great

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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the Z screw bracket is longer so it extends adjustment range

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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heartless wrote:

you must have put it on pretty heavy if it still wasnt dry after 2 hours!

Well, I did not think so, but I did spray Both the glass and the Bed-plate,
so both wet, probably Was a 'Bit Much' tongue

I left it heated for about 3 hours and let it cool over Night,
and it's Still Not Dry !
Looks like it will take Days to dry, if it Ever Does ! smile

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Just pull it off and wipe some of the excess away or let the surfaces get tacky.

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wardjr wrote:

Just pull it off and wipe some of the excess away or let the surfaces get tacky.

I'm worried that I might take Too much off doing that.
Sure don't want it coming loose in the middle of a print.

I'll wait a few more days ...... weeks...... years ! LOL tongue

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It'll stick and won't come off during a print once it is dry.  But, if it is still wet that will cause it to slide around.
What brand hairspray are you using?

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Thanks to all for your contributions

20 (edited by EagleSeven 2015-07-13 15:28:28)

Re: Glas Bed SD2

I used Aqua-net, extra-super-hold.
It works Great to hold print objects.

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That's the right stuff.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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It was Still Not Dry, sad
So, I put all the Clips back on so I could print the Fan-duct.

I don't think spray under glass is going to work very well,
because I see large air bubbles forming, as it dries. sad

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The bubbles will act as shims leveling the glass.  I seriously think you have way to much spray on there though.

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3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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EagleSeven wrote:

It was Still Not Dry, sad
So, I put all the Clips back on so I could print the Fan-duct.

I don't think spray under glass is going to work very well,
because I see large air bubbles forming, as it dries. sad


As Ward says the bubbles and liquid are self leveling. So even if the bed is slightly unlevel the glass should be nearly as gravity will cause the liquid to spread out evenly under the weight of the glass. Then it will dry. I just did my CTC with hairspray and a mirror as others suggested here and it was dry in ten minutes and is holding very well. I just sprayed a coat of hairspray on the back of the mirror to the point of it being wet then laid it down and ran a few heat and cool cycles.

I prefer using mirrors as it helps with adjusting bed to nozzle clearance.

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Thanks, I may try a Mirror sometime.
It does sound like a good idea smile

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