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Topic: For those of you still using cartridges...

I received one of XYZ's new colors today (gold!) from Studica.com. They are carrying three new colors even though XYZ themselves have not updated their own website as yet.

The color prints well, looks good and has a little sheen to it.

One big thing I noticed is the cartridge has been redesigned to allow for easy spool replacement. There is a center lock plug that holds the two pieces together and once you remove it, it is fairly easy to open the cartridge.

The old-style perimeter hooks are gone except for one at the front bottom of the cart.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

Thanks for the info / link.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

Microcenter is carrying them now as well...Unfortunately, they are still charging full cartridge price even though it's a "refill"box.

http://www.studica.com/XYZprinting

http://www.microcenter.com/search/searc … px?Ntt=xyz

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

PseudoShooter wrote:

Microcenter is carrying them now as well...Unfortunately, they are still charging full cartridge price even though it's a "refill"box.

http://www.studica.com/XYZprinting

http://www.microcenter.com/search/searc … px?Ntt=xyz

If you actually think about the cost of the enclosure, it would make sense to sell it near full price. With the kit you get the spool of filament and the chip which next ti the filament is the most expensive part. To XYZ at least.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

The MSRP for the refill kit on XYZ's site is $24.

I have a bunch of empty carts now, maybe I should flog them on eBay?

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

PseudoShooter wrote:

The MSRP for the refill kit on XYZ's site is $24.

I have a bunch of empty carts now, maybe I should flog them on eBay?

Me too, although I was thinking of refilling them with other interesting colors from a 3rd party but im still stuck on how to reset the carts so the printer will use them.  I've seen some of the re-setters but I want to stick with stock software and hardware at least until the warranty expires.
Besides the full carts are like 28 and the refills are 24 so unless you have a hundred empties its hardly worth the effort.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

This gold prints nice on the XYZ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M0C … &psc=1

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

scotthay wrote:

This gold prints nice on the XYZ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M0C … &psc=1

I keep everything stock so cant use spools, that I know of.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

madmarkus wrote:
scotthay wrote:

This gold prints nice on the XYZ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M0C … &psc=1

I keep everything stock so cant use spools, that I know of.


The refill kit comes as a spool only with a new chip. You have to crack one of your old cartridges open. Take out the existing spool and chip and teplace them with the kit. That is official procedure for the refills yhay XYZ sells.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

madmarkus wrote:
scotthay wrote:

This gold prints nice on the XYZ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M0C … &psc=1

I keep everything stock so cant use spools, that I know of.


The refill kit comes as a spool only with a new chip. You have to crack one of your old cartridges open. Take out the existing spool and chip and teplace them with the kit. That is official procedure for the refills that XYZ sells.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

carl_m1968 wrote:
madmarkus wrote:
scotthay wrote:

This gold prints nice on the XYZ

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M0C … &psc=1

I keep everything stock so cant use spools, that I know of.


The refill kit comes as a spool only with a new chip. You have to crack one of your old cartridges open. Take out the existing spool and chip and teplace them with the kit. That is official procedure for the refills that XYZ sells.

lol yea the refill kit also comes with filiment so yea i thought of trashing the replacement filiment to use some from a spool but that just seems like a waste.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

I switched over to after-market spools a few weeks ago and I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I have more options (colors) to choose from and so far all three brands of filament I've used have been fine with good results.

Here is an extreme close-up of a Roku M2000 end cap I printed yesterday using BuMat Clear ABS.

http://i.imgur.com/Vf22Lm2.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SpiYFf5.jpg

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

PseudoShooter wrote:

I switched over to after-market spools a few weeks ago and I'm pretty happy with the results so far. I have more options (colors) to choose from and so far all three brands of filament I've used have been fine with good results.

Here is an extreme close-up of a Roku M2000 end cap I printed yesterday using BuMat Clear ABS.

Looks great, but you must not be running a stock machine then correct?

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

madmarkus wrote:
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I keep everything stock so cant use spools, that I know of.


The refill kit comes as a spool only with a new chip. You have to crack one of your old cartridges open. Take out the existing spool and chip and teplace them with the kit. That is official procedure for the refills that XYZ sells.

lol yea the refill kit also comes with filiment so yea i thought of trashing the replacement filiment to use some from a spool but that just seems like a waste.

You could just take one of your empties,  cracked it open,  rewind it with other filament then use chip in refill kit and save the refill filament till later when you refresh.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

@ madmarkus;

Here is what I've done with my machine:

Cartridge resetter
External spool holder
Created a hole in the top cover for filament pass-through
Replaced the bearing mounts
Added ninjaflex dampeners to all steppers
Borosilicate glass bed and improved heater
Simplfy3d
Removed extruder heater connector
Covered the optical sensor
Covered the top cover open sensor

I'm still printing with XZY firmware and the extruder assembly it came with.

http://i.imgur.com/3s9RhKs.jpg

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

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@ madmarkus;

Here is what I've done with my machine:

Cartridge resetter
External spool holder
Created a hole in the top cover for filament pass-through
Replaced the bearing mounts
Added ninjaflex dampeners to all steppers
Borosilicate glass bed and improved heater
Simplfy3d
Removed extruder heater connector
Covered the optical sensor
Covered the top cover open sensor

I'm still printing with XZY firmware and the extruder assembly it came with.

Holy crap lol
looks like a nice setup though and I really want to play with glow in the dark stuff...maybe once the warranty is done ill ask for help with this kind of upgrade.
thanks

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

Thanks! Most of my mods were pretty quick and easy.

Replacing the bearing mounts was the most challenging task, because I had to learn how to do it as I did it. If I ever had to do it again, it would probably take half the time now.

The cartridge resetter is a must-have though. I still can't believe I'm paying half the price and getting more filament now.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

PseudoShooter wrote:

@ madmarkus;

Here is what I've done with my machine:

Cartridge resetter
External spool holder
Created a hole in the top cover for filament pass-through
Replaced the bearing mounts
Added ninjaflex dampeners to all steppers
Borosilicate glass bed and improved heater
Simplfy3d
Removed extruder heater connector
Covered the optical sensor
Covered the top cover open sensor

I'm still printing with XZY firmware and the extruder assembly it came with.

http://i.imgur.com/3s9RhKs.jpg

Where did you buy your Borosilicate glass? I'm having a hard time finding it.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

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PseudoShooter wrote:

@ madmarkus;

Here is what I've done with my machine:

Cartridge resetter
External spool holder
Created a hole in the top cover for filament pass-through
Replaced the bearing mounts
Added ninjaflex dampeners to all steppers
Borosilicate glass bed and improved heater
Simplfy3d
Removed extruder heater connector
Covered the optical sensor
Covered the top cover open sensor

I'm still printing with XZY firmware and the extruder assembly it came with.

http://i.imgur.com/3s9RhKs.jpg

Where did you buy your Borosilicate glass? I'm having a hard time finding it.


It's the same thing as tempered glass.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

I got mine off of eBay.

Here is the current listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/XYZPrinting-DaV … 3aa67faa2c

He's a member here and here's the thread on it: http://www.soliforum.com/topic/9642/da- … th-heater/

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

PseudoShooter wrote:

@ madmarkus;

Here is what I've done with my machine:

Cartridge resetter
External spool holder
Created a hole in the top cover for filament pass-through
Replaced the bearing mounts
Added ninjaflex dampeners to all steppers
Borosilicate glass bed and improved heater
Simplfy3d
Removed extruder heater connector
Covered the optical sensor
Covered the top cover open sensor

I'm still printing with XZY firmware and the extruder assembly it came with.

http://i.imgur.com/3s9RhKs.jpg

Great setup..!! I used to have one like that in my Davinci, however everytime I had to open the cover to reset the cartridge the spool holder wouldn't let me open it completely ...that is until I moved the spool holder to the side using this one from thingiverse:

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:743145

MUCH better since  I can now fully open the top cover for quick filament change and reset the cartridge anytime smile

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

Thanks!

The slot I cut in the top allows me to open the top fully with most spools.

I'm currently printing a different holder now that will allow the spool to feed directly in instead of sideways. It should sit lower and further away so the lid issue will be moot.

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Re: For those of you still using cartridges...

carl_m1968 wrote:
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Where did you buy your Borosilicate glass? I'm having a hard time finding it.


It's the same thing as tempered glass.


They are similar but Borosilicate Glass is all around better than Tempered Glass (IMHO).

Tempered glass is made so that internal stresses will shatter the glass if broken. Because of this internal stress, it has more resistance that standard soda-lime glass (I believe the stock glass is soda-lime). Once made, Tempered glass cannot be cut.

Borosilicate glass is made by replacing the calcium carbonate with boric oxide. It not only has the strength of tempered glass, but also has a lower thermal expansion. This glass will not shatter like tempered glass, so its not safety glass. This means that if you want, you can buy and cut glass to your needs (If you happen to want multiple replacement beds, and don't mind cutting glass.

If you have a choice, get Borosilicate. If not then tempered is also good.