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Topic: Da vinci 1.0 Bowden set-up

Right guys does anyone have a Bowden set up on their Da Vinci??

Just put a E3D hotend with bowden setup can post pictures if needed

Are they any setting I would need to change in my slicer for this to work properly?


Thanks!!

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Re: Da vinci 1.0 Bowden set-up

How much of the machine do you plan to reuse? If change from the stock feed gear then you will have to also flash to Repetier firmware as you willt need to change your steps per mm on the extruder motor and that can only be done in the firmware.

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Re: Da vinci 1.0 Bowden set-up

Hi, could you please tell how many steps per mm are required for the E3D hot end?

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Re: Da vinci 1.0 Bowden set-up

I have replaced the carriage for one I printed still used the stock motor and feed gear as it works with the bowden feeder I got

So if i need to flash it what steps per mm would I need to set it at?

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Eder wrote:

Hi, could you please tell how many steps per mm are required for the E3D hot end?

The hot end does not dictate them. The gear on the motor does. If it is not changed from stock then you can keep current settings. If however you build a new extruder to accomodate the bowden feed tube and you use a different motor and gear then you will need to change the e-steps.

There is no set number you have to make the extruder move a set amount and measure that move with a ruler or caliper to confirm it is the desired length. This is done before the filament enters the hotend. If it is short then you increase the steps. If it is long then you decrease them till it feeds the right amount. I just use a scrap section of filament about two feer long. I can feed 100mm measure it then reverse it 100mm and repeat till correct. 

The issue is that stock firmware and host do not allow direct control of the  machine. At the very least if you want to avoid flashing just confirm the esteps are correct, you would need stock firmware and purchase Simplify eD for $140.

Otherwise you would need to flash Repetier firmware and host to gain direct control.

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Anycubic 4MAX best $225 ever invested.
Voxelabs Proxima SLA. 6 inch 2k Mono LCD.
Anycubic Predator, massive Delta machine. 450 x 370 print envelope.

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Re: Da vinci 1.0 Bowden set-up

Ah right okay yeah I have kept the same motor and drive gear will do a test print tonight was so so easy to install I would easily recommend it to anyone!!   smile

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carl_m1968 wrote:
Eder wrote:

Hi, could you please tell how many steps per mm are required for the E3D hot end?

The hot end does not dictate them. The gear on the motor does. If it is not changed from stock then you can keep current settings. If however you build a new extruder to accomodate the bowden feed tube and you use a different motor and gear then you will need to change the e-steps.

There is no set number you have to make the extruder move a set amount and measure that move with a ruler or caliper to confirm it is the desired length. This is done before the filament enters the hotend. If it is short then you increase the steps. If it is long then you decrease them till it feeds the right amount. I just use a scrap section of filament about two feer long. I can feed 100mm measure it then reverse it 100mm and repeat till correct. 

The issue is that stock firmware and host do not allow direct control of the  machine. At the very least if you want to avoid flashing just confirm the esteps are correct, you would need stock firmware and purchase Simplify eD for $140.

Otherwise you would need to flash Repetier firmware and host to gain direct control.

Thanks for that info!!!

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L.woinson95 wrote:

Ah right okay yeah I have kept the same motor and drive gear will do a test print tonight was so so easy to install I would easily recommend it to anyone!!   smile

How did the test prints work out? I have been considering this due to the lack of rigidity in the x and y axis. I get ripples if I speed my prints up at all. I know I need to make some mechanical adjustments but I think the best thing I can do is reduce the amount of mass that is moving.

Have you printed any PLA with your Bowden setup? Did you have to manipulate the stock head in any way to get it to work? I would like to retain the ability to switch back in case I need to print any flexible materials.

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Just running an actual print off now the test prints were good love the new set-up can run it quicker for definite

At the moment I have just printed ABS but on the 13th will be ordering PLA, carbon fiber and maybe something like nylon to try and print

Not so bothered about flexi if I want to move to it in the future I will just find or design a direct drive carriage or does anyone have a thingiverse file?