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2.0-2.3

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That seems like it should be fine maybe slightly high.  I'd focus on making sure your connector is good.  Maybe you had a thin section of wire when you crimped the new one.

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Meters don't read low resistances well. What resistance do you get when you touch the probes together?

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When I touch the probes together, it jumps all over the place. When it settles down, I get a range of .3-.5

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Ok, so your bed is actually 1.7 ohms or so.

12/1.7 = 7 amps -> 84 watts.

This should be fine. I'd imagine there might be some issues with the connector not being tight/clean/making good contact.

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To replace the connector, any suggestions on where to get one? The one I used I happened to have in a parts bin.

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Kevin Gossett wrote:

To replace the connector, any suggestions on where to get one? The one I used I happened to have in a parts bin.

Try mouser or digikey. I don't have a part # on either site but I know you'll find them there. Make sure it is rated for 7 amps or more or it'll just melt again.

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Picked up some new connectors today at Fry's. Got it all fixed up and everything worked just fine. Then I got a full-blown clog. It's been one issue after another!

Guess I'll be disassembling the hot end again.

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How long should I soak the nozzle and heat break in acetone to clear up the clog?

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You clogged an e3d????
Most of the time you can just heat it up to about 260-280
And let it cook for a minute then by hand push some ABS through.  No more clog!

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Yeah, that didn't seem to want to work. No amount of heat and force would clear it. I actually had to use a small drill bit on my drill press to drill out the piece of ABS that wouldn't come out of the heat break. All good now though. Hopefully I can avoid any more issues, because it's been one after another!

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You may have damaged your heat break by using a drill bit on it - they're internally polished. If the issue was in the heat break, its a jam, not a clog. A clog speaks of debris in the nozzle.

You've always had a fan on, right? There's no reason for ABS to soften in the heatbreak.

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Always had a fan on. I made sure the bit I used was significantly smaller than the ID of the heat break.

The nozzle itself was clogged, and there was a piece of filament stuck in the heat break

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Really regretting this upgrade. I've had nothing but problems since. One of the leads on the thermistor broke last night. So there goes yet another thermistor. I'm not even sure how it broke

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Kevin Gossett wrote:

Really regretting this upgrade. I've had nothing but problems since. One of the leads on the thermistor broke last night. So there goes yet another thermistor. I'm not even sure how it broke

I am really very sorry you are having a hard time with the upgrade.  3d printing takes a lot of patients and has a very steep learning curve.  I can assure you that if the E3d is that frustrating a stock hot end would be 10 times worse.  Take your time and follow the assembly instructions to the letter and there is no reason it won't work perfectly.
Give me or any other happy E3d customer 20 minutes with your printer and I guarantee it would be running beautifully.  I am seriously wondering how you clogged an E3d especially so early on.
I just removed the first e3d I bought close to 2 years ago.  It must have well over a thousand print hours on it.  It never once clogged to the point where I couldn't just run up the temp to clear it out.  Even then that only happened a couple times well into the 500 hour range.
I only replaced it to install the Cyclops it still works just fine.
We all want to help you figure this out but I can't  help but feel like some of the problems you're having aren't self induced.
So fix your thermistor and make sure it is properly strain relieved.  Then let's get you up and printing smile

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Don't get me wrong, I'm incredibly grateful for the help and tips I've received here and through Filastruder. I'd be even more lost if not for that. I've been printing with the stock hot end for over a year now without issues, until the thermistor went out. I just hope once I fix this thermistor again, it's the last thing I have to worry about

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How did you break the thermistor? Is it properly strain relieved? I have around a thousand prints on a single thermistor.

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I have no idea how the wire came loose, but it was secured properly and had proper strain relief.

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Got the thermistor wired back, and everything worked as it should. Then midway through the print it stopped extruding, and I'm jammed again. What would be causing the filament to jam in the heat break like that? And is there a good way to remove the jam without having to completely disassemble again?

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Did you soak the nozzle in acetone to be sure you got whatever debris out the first time?

You should never have to do anything to the heat break of an E3D, even with a clogged nozzle.

What filament? Have you checked the diameter with calipers? Anything much over 1.85mm will jam in the heatbreak.

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Kevin Gossett wrote:

Got the thermistor wired back, and everything worked as it should. Then midway through the print it stopped extruding, and I'm jammed again. What would be causing the filament to jam in the heat break like that? And is there a good way to remove the jam without having to completely disassemble again?


I had a very similar issue to you.  My E3D just kept clogging and under extruding.  It turned out, that even though I was able to use it for about 2 months with no issues at all, the fan shroud on the heat sync was put in upside down, which made it so the plastic was melting prematurely.  That might be something you could check as well.

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aecarver wrote:
Kevin Gossett wrote:

Got the thermistor wired back, and everything worked as it should. Then midway through the print it stopped extruding, and I'm jammed again. What would be causing the filament to jam in the heat break like that? And is there a good way to remove the jam without having to completely disassemble again?


I had a very similar issue to you.  My E3D just kept clogging and under extruding.  It turned out, that even though I was able to use it for about 2 months with no issues at all, the fan shroud on the heat sync was put in upside down, which made it so the plastic was melting prematurely.  That might be something you could check as well.

Sure you didn't install the fan backwards? The shroud can be installed upside down just fine. I do this to make accessing the heatbkock easier, and E3D notes this is acceptable.

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jagowilson wrote:
aecarver wrote:
Kevin Gossett wrote:

Got the thermistor wired back, and everything worked as it should. Then midway through the print it stopped extruding, and I'm jammed again. What would be causing the filament to jam in the heat break like that? And is there a good way to remove the jam without having to completely disassemble again?


I had a very similar issue to you.  My E3D just kept clogging and under extruding.  It turned out, that even though I was able to use it for about 2 months with no issues at all, the fan shroud on the heat sync was put in upside down, which made it so the plastic was melting prematurely.  That might be something you could check as well.

Sure you didn't install the fan backwards? The shroud can be installed upside down just fine. I do this to make accessing the heatbkock easier, and E3D notes this is acceptable.


Well that's very interesting to hear, because I kept the fan orientation the same, and just flipped the shroud (unscrewed and rescrewed), and since I haven't had any clogs...

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Fan is on correctly. The nozzle isn't clogged, the filament is jammed.

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Sorry if we covered this but did you install the PTFE tubing?