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Ok, changed many settings that I can document later(nozzle size, slow first layer speed, aquanet, enclosing, mostly tweaking slic3r settings) and we're finally seeing great circles(noticed some slack in the belt from the motor, tightened worked great) and great bed adhesion! We printed a filament guide yesterday that warped a bit, so we're printing another one right now as a test. Also, we had a little bit of trouble updating to the most stable version of Slic3r in RH on Mac but eventually got it working and I'll post again when it's finished.

FuseBox 1.5 CoreXY - e3dv6 - Graphic Smart Display
Solidoodle 2 - e3dv6 - Hobb Goblin - e3d Titan - lawsy carriages - Direct Drive Y Axis - T8 Z axis - OctoPi

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Just thought I'd give a chime in here,

I Received my workbench last night.  and it was only about 3.5 hours until I had a successful print includes "unboxing"

a few notes that I found: 

- one of the packaging pillows had burst leaving packaging debris over everything in the box

- The Y rods were not even, which caused the X carriage to not be parallel with the frame, so the carriage would not move in the Y direction.  All this took was loosening off the bearings in the Y direction and trying to move the carriage, until it popped in. the Y carriage was then looser

- the cables to the X carriage would interfere with it's movement.  I added a cable tie point to hold them back a little farther.

-After my Tweaking the carriages I thing some of the alignment was lost, and the Y motor was set too far down putting to much force on the motor belt.  following the tensioning link that has been posted, and managed to get some good movement on all of the motors.

- I had a little bit of confusion because my printer was in "Virtual printer" mode, but After I found that, and had a few "holly crap" moments with manually moving, homing and parking the printer, I managed to get everything heated up, and 2 successful prints.

I ran 2 prints, both of http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:170922 calibration cube & circle.

first was the default .1mm settings (including extruder and print bed temp) there was a fair bit of warping and it eventually lost adhesion just after it completed the second level.

Next I did the same part on the default .3mm settings, except 10% fill rectilinear, only 1 shell and 110 degrees print bed. The print managed to make it through a successful print, there is very minor warping on the bottom, and the top didn't seem to be filled in fully, but I am quite happy with the results for no tweaking.  I would certainly classify this as "working out of the box"

Tonight I plan to do a little more tweaking and hope to get it dialed in pretty good.  I'm thinking go through the belt tensioning again (the circle is a little wonky) and do a flow calibration and see if I can find why I didn't get a full fill on the top.

One question, is there a "soft" stop?  when the first print lost adhesion I couldn't find any way to stop it other then the emergency stop button...

Solidoodle Workbench

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I haven't found anything like a soft stop... although I think you can pause the print, not sure if that helps.

FuseBox 1.5 CoreXY - e3dv6 - Graphic Smart Display
Solidoodle 2 - e3dv6 - Hobb Goblin - e3d Titan - lawsy carriages - Direct Drive Y Axis - T8 Z axis - OctoPi

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you want to use .48

• Solidoodle Workbench Apprentice
• Creates plastic parts up to 6" x 6" x 8"
• Heated Aluminum Build Platform with Glass Bed
• Dual extruder

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I did find what I was looking for, I was looking for the "kill job" button as opposed to the emergency stop.

you want to use .48

what is this for?

Solidoodle Workbench

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blazin_penguin wrote:

I did find what I was looking for, I was looking for the "kill job" button as opposed to the emergency stop.

you want to use .48

what is this for?

Yeah?  please put that ".48" into context for us.

The answer is that is the extrusion width you want to set if using a .40 nozzle
It is also the width you calibrate to for a single wall calibration cube.
Still, I fail to see how it pertains to this discussion.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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Ok,

I'm about to pick up a workbench, and I'm hoping some, all or many of you can answer a few questions for me.

1.  If I got my ebay Prusa Air2 kit to print reliably, can I make this work?
2.  When I buy it, should I just order a pair of E3d-v6 and get it over with?
3.  Can anyone tell me what kind of print speeds you're seeing?
4.  How on target are the ship dates for more recent orders?

I'm hoping you're all happy with your Workbench.  I cant make a case for buying anything else, even if I have to hack it to make it work.

Thanks,

Rick

Of course I know what I'm doing.  I googled it.

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Did I mention I'm impatient...

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hostinggeek wrote:

Ok,

I'm about to pick up a workbench, and I'm hoping some, all or many of you can answer a few questions for me.

1.  If I got my ebay Prusa Air2 kit to print reliably, can I make this work?
2.  When I buy it, should I just order a pair of E3d-v6 and get it over with?
3.  Can anyone tell me what kind of print speeds you're seeing?
4.  How on target are the ship dates for more recent orders?

I'm hoping you're all happy with your Workbench.  I cant make a case for buying anything else, even if I have to hack it to make it work.

Thanks,

Rick

1. I would say yes. I estimate that in a couple of weeks I'll be able to pull out some prints similar in quality to the Ultimaker 2
2. I just ordered mine. The default print head only goes up to 225-230 (and the print bed only up to 100-105) so if you need to reliably print with ABS and/or HIPS you have to change them
3. I didn't push it too hard, max was 60 I guess, which is still ok compared to 100 from Ultimaker 2
4. IDK. I ordered in september last year and just got it last week smile

The workbench is big and with some (more) work it should perform pretty well. There is a long list of minuses but with patience I think most of them can be fixed. The software side is also lacking, so for now you will have to use Repetier with Slic3r and hope to get the settings right smile
Overall, for the money, this is a good-quality printer but be prepared to invest some time in it.

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Thanks tagyro,

I guess what I'm looking at is the possibility of going with a homegrown enlarged i3, or this.  I knew by the price, and the amount of hacking and complaints i see in the forums that I was going to have to mess with it.  I've been using repetier and slicer from the beginning, so that's not really a problem for me.  Everything else I look at lacks the control I see in RH/Slic3r.  The Workbench seems like a really good platform to hack on, as long as you can get quality prints out of it in a decent amount of time.  The speed thing bothers me a bit, but as you said, you haven't pushed it.  I don't need 300mm/s printing at 20 micron, which is probably a fairytale anyway, I just want it to print faster than my Air2 does.  I'm getting about 90mm/s on low detail stuff, like quad frames.  If you haven't printed with the E3d-v6, you're in for a treat.  I doubt I would ever even bother with any other hotend, ever.  I like the no frills setup on the workbench, as I keep my printer on my desk, and it's never disconnected from my workstation.  They're both hooked up to a giant UPS, so they never go down in the middle of a print.  I've looked at the LCD on my Prusa once or twice in two years, and the sd card has the same files in it from when I bought it.  I looked at the plug and play models like the UM2, and I figured I'm mechanical enough to save myself a thousand bucks.  Thanks again for the great input.  I was already going to buy it.  If you don't hate yours after a week, I'm sold...lol

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Day 1 of the wait.  Please tell me you still like your Workbench...

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Hahaha - you placed the order didn't you?
I ordered the e3d and while waiting for them I'm printing only in PLA (not that anything else would print with the provided heads).
Yesterday tried a .1 and the quality was decent (lines barely visible and no significant feeling when touching) but I had to set the speed really low, down to 30 mm/s.
I probably need to redo the belt tensioning and some vaseline on the rods would probably help but I'm not spending anymore time on this until I get the new heads and mount them (hope I can do it - never did it before!)

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I installed mine, it was pretty easy.  Try to find connectors that match the ones that are in the machine. Use solder wherever you can. Make sure you download and print the adapter for going to an E3d.  follow the assembly instructions of the E3D to the letter.

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Sorry, I was replying from my phone.  It wasn't that tough to swap into the E3D setup on my printer.  I used an XT60 connector for the hot end, which was likely overkill, but I had a ton of them from copter builds.  With this machine, I'll be hacking as little as possible, so I plan to get a matching connector either from msc, or my local low voltage shop.

Has it been 8 weeks yet?

You might want to mess with your feed rate if you're having to print that slow at .1.  I've found, at least with my printer, that a combination of extrusion multiplier and feed rate always get me where I need to be without sacrificing speed too much.  I think the workbench comes with a fan for your work.  Crank it up, and run the filament a little hotter.  That works too. 

I hate waiting.  I'm a grown man on the outside, and a 5 year old on the inside.  How can I not have a tracking number yet...lol

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