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Hooked up my solidoodle 2 for the first time today. The x axis wont home correctly for some odd reason. I have a solidoodle 3 that runs just fine on RH. I even hit the 6x6 to change it over. Do I need to change something in the printer settings and if so what?
A few more details....
Start by moving each axis against it's respective end stop by hand, even the Z.
Then connect up to R-H and try manual control from there. If X continues to act strangely you most likely have a bad connection on that end stop or its wires.
I think I need to switch min and max on x bc when i hit home for x it runs away from the end stop. when I manually touch the end stop it'll stop. when I hit the home all button the hotend just kinda hovers a few mm away from the end stop. its rather odd
A few more details....
Start by moving each axis against it's respective end stop by hand, even the Z.
Then connect up to R-H and try manual control from there. If X continues to act strangely you most likely have a bad connection on that end stop or its wires.
I think I need to switch min and max on x bc when i hit home for x it runs away from the end stop. when I manually touch the end stop it'll stop. when I hit the home all button the hotend just kinda hovers a few mm away from the end stop. its rather odd
wardjr wrote:A few more details....
Start by moving each axis against it's respective end stop by hand, even the Z.
Then connect up to R-H and try manual control from there. If X continues to act strangely you most likely have a bad connection on that end stop or its wires.
And when you manually tell the X to move does it move in the correct direction?
yes it
shields1.as wrote:I think I need to switch min and max on x bc when i hit home for x it runs away from the end stop. when I manually touch the end stop it'll stop. when I hit the home all button the hotend just kinda hovers a few mm away from the end stop. its rather odd
wardjr wrote:A few more details....
Start by moving each axis against it's respective end stop by hand, even the Z.
Then connect up to R-H and try manual control from there. If X continues to act strangely you most likely have a bad connection on that end stop or its wires.And when you manually tell the X to move does it move in the correct direction?
So does the x struggle in general? If you grab it with your hand and add slight resistance will it stall easily?
This could be an issue of binding or one of VREF.
I can stop it about as easily as my sd3. I checked that. I checked and it moves in the opposite direction as it should when i hit the manuel x commands and it homes to the wrong side when I hit the x home. So i think i need to flip something there. I'll try more tomorrow.
So does the x struggle in general? If you grab it with your hand and add slight resistance will it stall easily?
This could be an issue of binding or one of VREF.
I can stop it about as easily as my sd3. I checked that. I checked and it moves in the opposite direction as it should when i hit the manuel x commands and it homes to the wrong side when I hit the x home. So i think i need to flip something there. I'll try more tomorrow.
wardjr wrote:So does the x struggle in general? If you grab it with your hand and add slight resistance will it stall easily?
This could be an issue of binding or one of VREF.
Easy fix, your motor is plugged in backward. Just flip the plug over at the board.
well I finally got the extruder motor running the correct direction. I think Im having binding issues on my y axis though. The y axis motor turns but the idler pulley just sits on the cog. Something somewhere is too tight. Its tough to push by hand even
shields1.as wrote:I can stop it about as easily as my sd3. I checked that. I checked and it moves in the opposite direction as it should when i hit the manuel x commands and it homes to the wrong side when I hit the x home. So i think i need to flip something there. I'll try more tomorrow.
wardjr wrote:So does the x struggle in general? If you grab it with your hand and add slight resistance will it stall easily?
This could be an issue of binding or one of VREF.Easy fix, your motor is plugged in backward. Just flip the plug over at the board.
well I finally got the extruder motor running the correct direction. I think Im having binding issues on my y axis though. The y axis motor turns but the idler pulley just sits on the cog. Something somewhere is too tight. Its tough to push by hand even
wardjr wrote:shields1.as wrote:I can stop it about as easily as my sd3. I checked that. I checked and it moves in the opposite direction as it should when i hit the manuel x commands and it homes to the wrong side when I hit the x home. So i think i need to flip something there. I'll try more tomorrow.
Easy fix, your motor is plugged in backward. Just flip the plug over at the board.
No quick fix for binding you are just going to have to locate the source one thing at a time 
I located it. Its the rod that goes into the pillow blocks that turns the y axis . it will work if i give it a little help with my hands but I'm not sure how to fix that. Any ideas other that strip the rod out and replace pillow bearings and rod?
shields1.as wrote:well I finally got the extruder motor running the correct direction. I think Im having binding issues on my y axis though. The y axis motor turns but the idler pulley just sits on the cog. Something somewhere is too tight. Its tough to push by hand even
wardjr wrote:Easy fix, your motor is plugged in backward. Just flip the plug over at the board.
No quick fix for binding you are just going to have to locate the source one thing at a time
Update. So I got the rod loose sanded it bc it had a burr on it catching in the pillow block, adjusted the idler pulleys, loosened the y belts and it seems like it got better each time but I couldnt figure out why it still wouldn't move. Then I found the cog on the y motor was broken in two and the belt wasn't turning. I thought something was up. The carriage that sits on the y rods still has some slop and I'm not sure how to fix that. If anyone has a version they use for a Solidoodle let me know I'd like to print a new one that would take so of that out.
Update. So I got the rod loose sanded it bc it had a burr on it catching in the pillow block, adjusted the idler pulleys, loosened the y belts and it seems like it got better each time but I couldnt figure out why it still wouldn't move. Then I found the cog on the y motor was broken in two and the belt wasn't turning. I thought something was up. The carriage that sits on the y rods still has some slop and I'm not sure how to fix that. If anyone has a version they use for a Solidoodle let me know I'd like to print a new one that would take so of that out.
Misumi LMU8 bearings (these say "bushings," but if you get the LMU8 part# it will be ball bearings), 8 of them:
http://us.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/110300026540/
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Lawsy's Carriages
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:104059
rock solid carriage. this is what i use on my machine. bump up your extrusion multiplier by somewhere between .01 and .05 to ensure a tight fit of everything. You can get cheaper LM8UUs from china but if you want my opinion, spend the cash for the misumi bearings. perfect tolerance.
print 100% infill, 2 perimeters. if you over extrude these for a tight fit you will probably have to drill out the holes for the X carriage rods. i used an 8mm drill bit and the fit is tight, but loose enough to allow the rods to align themselves and keep the carriage straight.
It has a lawsy carriage on it currently and it's incredibly loose for some reason. Lots of slop. Probably just needs reprinting. Or maybe the bearings or cheap or worn out, can't substitute quality ya know
shields1.as wrote:Update. So I got the rod loose sanded it bc it had a burr on it catching in the pillow block, adjusted the idler pulleys, loosened the y belts and it seems like it got better each time but I couldnt figure out why it still wouldn't move. Then I found the cog on the y motor was broken in two and the belt wasn't turning. I thought something was up. The carriage that sits on the y rods still has some slop and I'm not sure how to fix that. If anyone has a version they use for a Solidoodle let me know I'd like to print a new one that would take so of that out.
Misumi LMU8 bearings (these say "bushings," but if you get the LMU8 part# it will be ball bearings), 8 of them:
http://us.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/110300026540/+
Lawsy's Carriages
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:104059rock solid carriage. this is what i use on my machine. bump up your extrusion multiplier by somewhere between .01 and .05 to ensure a tight fit of everything. You can get cheaper LM8UUs from china but if you want my opinion, spend the cash for the misumi bearings. perfect tolerance.
print 100% infill, 2 perimeters. if you over extrude these for a tight fit you will probably have to drill out the holes for the X carriage rods. i used an 8mm drill bit and the fit is tight, but loose enough to allow the rods to align themselves and keep the carriage straight.
those cheap bearings can be sloppy if you get a really bad batch, which was the case for me. total junk. some of the balls even fell out. you can wrap tape around the bearings if the slop is between the bearing and printed part, though.
I'll try that in the morning and let ya know how it works
those cheap bearings can be sloppy if you get a really bad batch, which was the case for me. total junk. some of the balls even fell out. you can wrap tape around the bearings if the slop is between the bearing and printed part, though.
Actually I've decided I'm going to replace the carriage bearings with granite brass sleeve bearings. I'm also going to change out the rods with 8 mm stainless steel rods. Gunna swap new pillow blocks in the back also that don't wobble.
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