1 (edited by ysb 2014-05-27 22:58:38)

Topic: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

if you didn't know, i won the first character design contest of solidoodles.com ... i won a SD4 pro..

http://media.giphy.com/media/kmYBXYUp3K8lG/giphy.gif

i just receive it last week... a little bad surprise is that i need to pay 111$ for custom tax (for a contest prize...

http://media2.giphy.com/media/ESt8At0PXpmj6/giphy.gif

why do you put the FULL price of the printer on it ?? not friendly).... it's a good think that i didn't win a car...

the opening was a good surprise... well packaging... tools bag (i wait for it since my SD2.. now i have the SOLIDOODLE BRUSHTEETH !!! ...) ...beautiful case well made... at this moment , it's "happy face"...

http://media0.giphy.com/media/sMaW02wUllmFi/giphy.gif

then i look into...  new printer head... the plastic Jigsaw puzzle is gone, and a new full metal spring loader like Mk8 extruder (makerbot) replace it...

some "butterfly"Thumb Screw  to settle the heated bed, a big Thumb Screw  for the Z screw ... the path of the cables is pretty well done ...

ok.. the hardware, the presentation and the details are pretty good... a long path was made since my early SD2...


but the quality control before shipping IS ALWAYS BAD !!!
http://i.imgur.com/dHpQc.gif

i lost 3 hours to start the printer, and i'm not a noob...

http://i26.tinypic.com/244cql3.png

the errors are unacceptable for a company that sells 3D printers for nearly 2 years, and for their flagship models !
and the worst, is that errors are NEWBIE ONE !.. don't tell me that you check your printer before shipping .. it's impossible.. For anybody that is not tech/ 3d printer savvy, this printer was DOA (death on arrival)...

http://i.imgur.com/R6qrD.gif

first : the toothed wheel that drives the filament was completely full of filament bit as a result of trying to advance a blocked filament. the result is that the filament "slip on it" if you are not aware of the problem.. how do you do your print test ???
the side effect is that i discovered that it's very difficult to clean the wheel with a toothbrush ..

http://i.imgur.com/jpyTI.gif

second : i try to home the head : it work on X axe, but refuse to go back on Y axe... after checking the cable, motor and lost 30 minutes to check anything, i found that the Y endstop was tighten so hard that the switch was completely stuck in its box (it's like something always push the button of the endstop). another time, it's IMPOSSIBLE to pass this on a test drive... I just loosens a bit the screws of the endstop, and "hourra", we are back in business.. now i can "home" all the axes.. but ...(because there is always a but...) there is again problem during the move of the Y axe on a full XY move ... the head move , then stop.. move again... the move is erratic..

http://i.imgur.com/joCZx.gif

third problem :  i made some calibration test print.. then suddenly, the y axe stop working.. no more move... result of a screw not enough tighten this time on the stepper motor axe . so it was the source of the erratic movement.. again, this can not pass a full test drive..

http://i.imgur.com/X5bSB.gif

and the fourth problem: my preferred

http://randompicturesblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Cats-Shall-Decide-Your-Level-of-Fail.jpg

i made a test print : not a fancy print, only 2 or 3 hours print.. (fast printing for me which prints 8/10 hours in line regularly.)
at the end of printing, I found it was really VERY hot in the enclosure of the printer .. abnormal temperature..

so i decided to check if a fan was not dead... all seem to be correct...wait... there is something behind the fan which removes heat from the inside of the enclosure.. a STICKER !!! they LET A WHITE PAPER STICKER of the full size of the fan between the fan and the body of the printer...
http://rob.nu/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/facepalm12.jpg?218b9f

the fan ran at full speed for nothing, as nothing can pass this sticker... unmount the fans, remove the sticker, mount the fan in place. end of story

if I did not know the normal operating temperature of 3D printers, it is certain that something would eventually burn after some big print...

after all that problems, now the printer work pretty well... i need to finish the calibration as the printing is not as smooth as my old SD2... but it's on the good way...

SOLIDOODLE, your printers are good for the price, but for the love of god, please, TRIPLE CHECK your QUALITY CHECK, if you never had done one... these problems can be easily avoided, especially on your flagship printer

http://media.giphy.com/media/tdr6m1OVPIqAM/giphy.gif

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

I love posts from ysb. So entertaining.

Edit: Needs more GIFs.

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

Factual and very detailed as well.

+1

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elmoret wrote:

I love posts from ysb. So entertaining.

Edit: Needs more GIFs.

gif added by request wink

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

And with those additions, this finely crafted rant has become a piece of art!

Sorry to hear of the troubles with your prize, ysb, but thank you for the entertaining diversion!

Don: Folger Tech 2020 Kossel Rev A + Borosilicate + Snow Effector
        Davinci 1.0 + Repetier : Filastruder
        SD3 + RAMPS + Lawsy Carriages + E3D + Borosilicate + ... : Cupcake

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

At least you didn't have to pay for all this trouble.  Other than duty of course.  Thanks for the update I really think the GIF is a much needed final touch.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

The sticker was probably the filter, and one of the first things i removed when I got my SD4 as it is completely useless.

Solidoodle 4. Glass bed. E3D v6

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@ysb Do you have the Pros Only sign in a bigger size? I want to print it and put if on my SD4

Solidoodle 4. Glass bed. E3D v6

9 (edited by ysb 2014-05-28 12:08:47)

Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

CarstenBe wrote:

The sticker was probably the filter, and one of the first things i removed when I got my SD4 as it is completely useless.


A filter? ???...  doesn't look like a paper filter.... but if it is a filter, it's urgent to change it for another thing...

@CarstenBe : sorry it's the biggest size i found..

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

It was a paper thing that looked like some sort of coffee filter, no air at all could get through. I don't know if they changed it.


btw sorry to hear about your problems with the SD4

Solidoodle 4. Glass bed. E3D v6

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Great, ysb!  Never have I enjoyed someone else's misery so much ;-)

Seriously, I hope Solidoodle was paying attention.  I'd like to see them do better too.

SD2, glass bed, MK5 setup with E3D lite extruder
NX and Solid Edge CAD user
PI, Galileo, and arduino hacker
Code Monkey and Twitter user @burhop

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Ysb, you almost killed me !! I'm giggling in my office alone, everybody is wondering what the hell happening to me !!

Your story is awefully awesome, and I had a really good time reading it.

Once again, and like the other members : I'm sorry for you. But eh !! It was a 100 bucks printer after all !!!

SD3, early 2013. Silicon 200W 8x8 heater bed, lawsy carriage on 8 mm hardened chrome shafts, E3D V6 and lawsy MK5 extruder, ATX 350 W PSU, Custom build plywood enclosure, azteeg x5 mini smothie firmware, with vikki 2 screen, fishing line conversion and pulley conversion, M5 Z rod. Calling it Gran'ma, going strong ! <3

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Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

I probably missed the thread, but what did your winning character look like, anyway? If you don't mind posting a pic or a link to it...?

Definitely an entertaining read, lol.

Two SD3s - One with Sang, One with Printrboard, Fans on control boards!!! Do this!!!, Dual Glass Beds, Blacklight "EZ Bake Oven" - Improves Ambient Temp, Sketchup, Repetier, Slic3r. Graphic Designer & Makeshift Engineer. Drinks Lots and Lots and Lots of Rum.

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mark.burhop wrote:

Seriously, I hope Solidoodle was paying attention.  I'd like to see them do better too.

I can guarantee they were, and I would bet $5 they don't care.

ysb is a great prospect and influence in the 3D printing community, and his models prove that. And when SD sends him garbage, it is a slap in the face to one of the higher SD users as well as our community.
I have been helping via text a new SD4 user who knew nothing and his machine out performed ysb's....even before I was  assisting in calibration and Slic3r profiles. Ysb got the shaft.

Printit Mason and Printit Horizon printers
Multiple SD2s- Bulldog XL, E3D v5/v6/Lite6, Volcano, Hobb Goblin, Titan, .9 motor, Lawsy carriages, direct Y drive, fishing line...the list goes on
Filawinder and Filastruder #1870.....worth every penny!

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jawhn wrote:

I probably missed the thread, but what did your winning character look like, anyway? If you don't mind posting a pic or a link to it...?

Definitely an entertaining read, lol.

with 3 months of delays...

this is this one : www.fantasygraph.com/item/the-summoner

16 (edited by n2ri 2014-10-17 07:33:08)

Re: i win a SD4... and my nightmare began...

make a PDF of this thread and send it to Sam at SD to include with SD4 shipping as a manual so the newbs know how to use there "ready to print out of the box 3D printers' LOL they should have labeled it 'Gift' for shipping

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs