1 (edited by AZERATE 2014-03-11 18:20:45)

Topic: Is my printer braind dead?

I FINALLY updated the firmware after many failed attempts.
I found this thread: http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4520/e3d … lp/page/2/

On the last page, I obviously had many issues as it would not compile as I tried for over an hour. Frustrated, today I was finally able to compile the firmware. I was excited when I wired my board back up and all the lights and fans came on. I was stoked and proud.
But:
-As I clicked Z+, the rod spun but the bed did not move an inch.
-As I clicked home, it began moving back and to the left instead of back and to the right.
-I heated the extruder and it smelled as if something was burning. I retracted some filament and it FLEW out at a rediculous speed.
-I extruded 50mm and it violently grabbed the filament and bent it at the top, causing the filament to want to "double up" inside the E3D.

One thing that struck me odd: When I was updating the firmware, Arduino would not compile until I clicked on tools and changed the board to ++2 Teensy.
Also, on the thread I linked, it said to change Motherbard from 62 to 81. But this is not mentioned one bit on the Soliwiki page.
Please oh please oh please don't tell me it is dead! Can I fix it????

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

Explain "wired the board back up" sounds like you have the wrong motors plugged into the wrong places.

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

By that I mean I reconnected everything.
Sorry...musician's terminology in the wrong place I guess.

I looked over all connections and it looks golden.
I have tried resetting, turning off and on, even rebooting printer and computer and it still is acting up. Perhaps a video might help?

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

First question...Why did you have to reconnect everything?
Second explain this further "-As I clicked Z+, the rod spun but the bed did not move an inch."  How is that possible?  If the Z-rod spins the bed must move.

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

1) I read on the link provided above that all connectors aside from USB must be removed. Perhaps this is because I have the Printrboard REV? Should I try the firmware with all connectors on?
2) I forgot to update on that one. I apologize. It spins VERY slow. You can see the threads move, but the bed appears to stay in one place. That's just how slow it moves.

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

I don't think there is any question you have a problem but I doubt your board is dead.  I am going to PM you lets talk about exchanging boards.  I have a perfectly good Sang that is all loaded up and ready to go.

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7 (edited by adrian 2014-03-12 10:01:01)

Re: Is my printer braind dead?

never disconnect everything from a printrboard whilst having it powered... it will fry the stepper motors. A4988's do not like not having motors connected whilst powered.

That being said - I dont think thats your issue.

I'm back from a funeral/wake, so I'm not about to try and diagnose tonight, soz... but one of the other more capable peeps around here I'm sure can help. Otherwise I'm out till tomorrow...

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

OK. The fact that things are moving means you are in luck. Dead means dead, no movement, no lights.

First, it sounds like you have big problems with your firmware setup. Lets confirm that you have a printrboard:

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=2576&download=0

Next, if this is your motherboard, you need to check the following in your config.h file:

#define MOTHERBOARD 81

#define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT   {88,88,2268,138}

Compile it in arduino with board type [usbtiny]teensylu/Printrbaord or [bootloaderCDC]teensylu/printrbaord.

After you upload and connect to RH, do not move any motors until you check the EEPROM:

CONFIG-->Firmware EEPROM Configuration

Make sure your steps/mm are correct.

Now, it sounds like you have 1 of two possible problems:
1. Your firmware settings are way off.
2. It is possible you plugged in all of your motors in the wrong location. Check the picture above with how you connected everything.

Check the wiring first and get back to us.

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

Hazer wrote:

OK. The fact that things are moving means you are in luck. Dead means dead, no movement, no lights.

  That is certainly good news, and that was one of my theories.

Hazer wrote:

First, it sounds like you have big problems with your firmware setup. Lets confirm that you have a printrboard

  Yes I do.


Hazer wrote:

#define DEFAULT_AXIS_STEPS_PER_UNIT   {88,88,2268,138}

  That one is news to me. I did not change any lines in Configuration.h aside from the three lines instructed. Since I have an SD2, I did not need to change from 2 to 3.

Hazer wrote:

Compile it in arduino with board type [usbtiny]teensylu/Printrbaord or [bootloaderCDC]teensylu/printrbaord.

  Only way it would compile is if I clicked Tools>Board>Teensy ++2.0  as it instructed me in the bottom window.

Hazer wrote:

After you upload and connect to RH, do not move any motors until you check the EEPROM:

CONFIG-->Firmware EEPROM Configuration

Make sure your steps/mm are correct.

Now, it sounds like you have 1 of two possible problems:
1. Your firmware settings are way off.
2. It is possible you plugged in all of your motors in the wrong location. Check the picture above with how you connected everything.

Check the wiring first and get back to us.


All connectors are in their proper places. I took a picture with my iphone before unplugging anything. Nothing was plugged in/removed while the printer was powered up.

More importantly, EEPROM shows nothing but zeros in all fields. Restarted printer, same. Restarted computer, same.

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

Couple more questions then:

Where did you get your firmware file to begin with? There are a few floating around.

When you go to select your board type in arduino, ca you see the printrboard types in the list? You may not have those board types installled in your version of arduino.

Which leads to which version of arduino are you using?

This should help us find out what is going on. You should not be having a problem compiling under the printrbaord board type.

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

https://github.com/mlaws/solidoodle2-ma … lin_v1.zip
http://www.reprap-usa.com/download/arduino0022.zip
These are the exact files I downloaded.
And no, Printrboard never shows up which made me wonder why it told me to select Teensy ++2.0.

The exact version of Arduino I am using I cannot say since I am at work until tonight. sad

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

While Lawsys version should work, you could look at adrians updated version:


http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4236/bet … ll-boards/

That version of arduino should have the printrboard in it.

Now, when you do not have the correct board defined in configuration.h file, it will always say "use Teensy ++2.0". Thats just a text message error in the pins.h file and not hard coded into arduino IDE. Since you are seeing that message, you have the correct MOTHERBOARD defined.

Next question: You said  it would not compile, but you did not say you could not select printrboard. So which is it:

I cannot select printrboard from Tools --> Board -->

or

It will not compile (there is an error).

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Re: Is my printer braind dead?

My version says Arduino 1.05-R2

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