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Topic: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

ok so im having lots of problems trying to upgrade to the azteeg x3...


so after following the directions and changing what needed changed in pins.h and configuration.h and trying to compile I get  an error

"   expected ')' before 'SOLI_BOARD'     "   
Marlin_main.cpp: In function 'void process_commands () ' :
Marlin_main.cpp:1223: error: expected ') ' before 'SOLI_BOARD'

and it highlights some text in the marlin_main.cpp

SERIAL_PROTOCOLPGM(MSG_M115_REPORT) ;             

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so after trying the Solidoodle 3 firmware I downloaded marlin v1  after making the azteeg changes it compiles fine and uploads but I get errors in repetier host

Error 0
extruder switched off. MINTEMP triggered !
error :Printer stopped due to errors. Fix the error and use M999 to restart. (Temperature is reset. Set is after restarting)



my printer has been down for a long time id really like to get it running!! PLEASE HELP ME!!!

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

can you post your configuration.h file you are using?  I think its something to do with the thermistor settings you are using.

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

^ that or the pins.h file

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

im using "1"  for the 100k thermistor. that's really the only values involving the thermistor. 

my previous board my son shorted out, so its possible that the thermistor could have popped too. I haven't looked at the Solidoodle print head how is the thermistor fixed in ? will I have to drill it out, or what ?

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

the thermistor on the sd print head is held in place with Kapton tape.
the heater is held in place with fire cement.

Ultimaker S3.

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

the only thing I changed in the pins.h was the  defin x min/max pins

I followed the directions to the letter! 

I guess its the thermistor ill get a new one and ill be back if it dosent work out.    where to buy one at?

7 Reply by MolecularConcept (edited by MolecularConcept 2013-12-29 22:27:41)

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sweet then it should be a simple fix. cant I test it with a multi meter or something ?


aren't they 100 ohms ? so a resistance reading other than that should indicate a problem right?

bought 2 off ebay , for that price I could have bought 10 but I think these are pretty close to the one  in there already

8 Reply by spapadim (edited by spapadim 2013-12-30 23:44:53)

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

I'm guessing you have (had?) some typo in a #define.

Search wiki, eg: http://www.soliwiki.com/List_of_compatible_hardware

It's 100*K* btw, not 100. See sticky at top of this [edit: help/repair; "hot end isn't hot" topic] forum for diagnostics (yes, multimeter should read order of 100K).

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Ah 100k of course  =P. Resistors  will be here reL soon , so we will see what's up. I'm pretty sure there's no typos but if I must I'll find a way to paste my comfig.h for review. I really only edited a few numbers

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

check for continuity at your thermistor leads at the board.  The error you are getting I believe may be a disconnected thermistor.  It just hit me after thinking about it.  If you have continuity then maybe its a config.h error or maybe something with your pins.h.

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

MolecularConcept wrote:

Ah 100k of course  =P. Resistors  will be here reL soon , so we will see what's up. I'm pretty sure there's no typos but if I must I'll find a way to paste my comfig.h for review. I really only edited a few numbers

Well, if you managed to get lawsy's (?) patched marlin v1 working, I'd stick with that. If, for academic curiosity, you want to understand the other error, you can just attach the files you edited in a post (but make sure to mention marlin source version you used -- error seems to involve macro expansion, and the definitions of those may have changed in later versions). Anyway.

Edit: BTW, if using stock hotend (and therefore thermistor) you shouldn't have needed to change its type....

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

Correct the hotend and the bed thermistors wee already type 1 .Also  the error I'm receiving is with the marlin v1

Lawsy has a marlin optimized for the Solidoodle? Link me?

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

It sounds like the firmware and Azteeg stuff is fine.  What do the temp readings show, and what happens if you switch the bed and hotend thermistors at the board?  If it quits giving you MINTEMP and doesn't give you a good bed reading, then you know the thermistor is toast.

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

When I connect to repetier host I either get no reading or .5 to 1.5 degrees Celsius ..


I also have an e 3d hotend and the silicone bed and the printed base.  I. Not sure if I have all the mk5 pieces I printed them but my son got into that box too..... and no way to drill the holes for the base

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okie-dokie installed new thermistor same old bullshit error.

i am really at my wits end here. i dont know shit about firmware so i cant tell where the problem is. can anyone with an azteeg board upload thier working firmware file?  i followed the directions found here and the wiki and im stuck.

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

What happens when you switch the hot end and bed thermistors at the board?

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

MolecularConcept wrote:

okie-dokie installed new thermistor same old bullshit error.

i am really at my wits end here. i dont know shit about firmware so i cant tell where the problem is. can anyone with an azteeg board upload thier working firmware file?  i followed the directions found here and the wiki and im stuck.

Might be simpler if you post the files you are using as some of the people here that deal with them may have changed other things that would make their file awkward... you get more 'eyes on' posting the problem files anyways.

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Here is the copy of Marlin im trying to use..

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

I switched the thermistors at the board side and same error pops up. Not Sure how helpfull that is.. do i have a bad board?

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Try plugging the thermistor into the E2 connector (extruder 2 thermistor), then go to pins.h

#define TEMP_0_PIN         13   // ANALOG NUMBERING
#define TEMP_1_PIN         15   // ANALOG NUMBERING
#define TEMP_2_PIN         -1   // ANALOG NUMBERING
#define HEATER_BED_PIN     8    // BED
#define TEMP_BED_PIN       14   // ANALOG NUMBERING

Switch the TEMP_0_PIN and the TEMP_1_PIN so that the TEMP_1 pin is used as the hot end thermistor.

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Same error!!! This is so disappointing

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

Not near computer, but: did you follow steps in "hotend doesn't get hot" sticky?  Might be a connector coming loose (the IDC connectors do that if stressed and/or not properly inserted)? The thermistor is, basically, just a piece of wire whose resistance varies with temperature, it just needs to be connected without shorts, so you just check thermistor wires, then blue MTA connector, then white connector it plugs into, etc etc, step by step all the way to the board - any of these could be a point of failure.

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Connections are solid and no shorts....

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

Here is a thread at Reprap with a similar problem on Ramps - http://forums.reprap.org/read.php?4,274326

Try setting the E1 pin (extruder 2) to -1 just in case you are getting that MINTEMP about the second extruder you don't have.

Some other suggestions from RepRapPro -

Some temperatures indicate the fault (looking at the hot end temperature):
around -40C - No thermistor is connected / break in thermistor connection
-273C - Short circuit between thermistor wires; check wiring. Could also be hot end heater is wired to thermistor screw terminals.
around 90C - 10k ohm bed thermistor wired into hot end temperature screw terminals (Mendel)
20C - What it should report, around room temperature
To test the hot end temperature sensing (Mendel and Huxley):
Remove the wires from the 'etemp' screw terminal.
Check the temperature in Pronterface. Is the reported temperature the same?
Bridge the screw terminal connections with a piece of wire. Is there any change in the reported temperature?
If you have some resistors, wire them into the etemp terminals and check the temperature reported in Pronterface. A 150k ohm resistor should read around 17C, 100k ohm resistor should read around 25C, a 50k ohm resistor should read around 42C, a 10k ohm resistor should read around 90C, a 1k ohm resistor should report around 184C.

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Re: SERIOUS problems with Azteeg X3

Ian isnt that what you just suggested in your last post? I already did that. I dont have any resistors. Its stsrting to sound like i have a bad board or something?  Im deff not buyin solidoodles overpriced printrboard, i tossed all those connectors anyway.

Anyone wanna buy a SD3 with an azteegX3 board? $500 plus shipping.