1 Topic by curlrup (edited by curlrup 2013-12-08 23:08:19)

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Topic: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

Just got my SD2 with heated build platform. I followed the startup links on the website to the letter. It said run my build at 215C on the extruder and 105C for the platform.  Ran some great parts with stock settings.  I decided to calibrate  my extruder today and see warnings (I forget where I saw it.) That said do not run your extruder over 210C. Now I am assuming that warning was for older extruder a before they went with the cartridge heater.So what is it? 215C+? Or 210C max?  Since I can't find current info on the heated platform, what is the max on that?  Thanks!

2 Reply by dubbsd (edited by dubbsd 2013-12-08 23:31:02)

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

It isn't the because of the heat cartridge it is because you are at the danger zone of the peek melting.
I never go over 205°C.

with an enclosure, glass bed,& hairspray you should not have to go over 100°c on the bed.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

http://www.solidoodle.com/how-to-2/how-to-print/

Says right here 215C. I ran all day yesterday at 215.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

This is the response I got from Solidoodle on their google groups page:


"Since your Solidoodle is equipped with the newer motherboard, you should be using these temperatures:

Extruder: 215C
Build Plate: 105C

People with older motherboards should not use those temperatures.

Regards,
Joel"

So that's what I've been using aroundabouts with my new SD2.

This is a crowd funding thing that I'm running: http://www.gofundme.com/bvi140 It's for pretty selfish reasons tongue

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

Cool. Thanks.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

dubbsd wrote:

It isn't the because of the heat cartridge it is because you are at the danger zone of the peek melting.
I never go over 205°C.

with an enclosure, glass bed,& hairspray you should not have to go over 100°c on the bed.

The reason we recommend a higher temperature now is that the current motherboard reads temperatures sightly more accurately than before, and the machine is able to perform at (recorded temp) 215c.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

Solidoodlesupport,

Why not simply modify the firmware to adjust the temperature +15 degrees or whatever it roughly is? It's just a look-up table. This would really clarify things, for the solidoodle info has caused a lot of conflicting information on the web.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

Tomek wrote:

Solidoodlesupport,

Why not simply modify the firmware to adjust the temperature +15 degrees or whatever it roughly is? It's just a look-up table. This would really clarify things, for the solidoodle info has caused a lot of conflicting information on the web.

Well now they're stuck in this quandary where Solidoodles have the reputation of needing to be run 30C cooler, so if you apply a fix (it seems they've applied half of one) then you get people giving incorrect advice again! I suppose they could put a note on the printer itself recommending temperatures, but that'd be including documentation with the printer.

Just goes to show the importance of getting it right the first time.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

I was just noticing the other day that what we could really use on the wiki is a solidoodle timeline of changes made in the printers and pointers to the correct calibrations and settings for each incarnation.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

Claghorn wrote:

I was just noticing the other day that what we could really use on the wiki is a solidoodle timeline of changes made in the printers and pointers to the correct calibrations and settings for each incarnation.

Yup, it's been asked for and they won't do it. I'm not sure why. I maintain a similar change log for Filastruder here:

http://www.soliforum.com/post/19602/#p19602

It isn't hard. Takes me about 60 seconds to update every time I make a revision.

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Re: So which is it? 210C or 215C?

elmoret wrote:
Claghorn wrote:

I was just noticing the other day that what we could really use on the wiki is a solidoodle timeline of changes made in the printers and pointers to the correct calibrations and settings for each incarnation.

Yup, it's been asked for and they won't do it. I'm not sure why. I maintain a similar change log for Filastruder here:

http://www.soliforum.com/post/19602/#p19602

It isn't hard. Takes me about 60 seconds to update every time I make a revision.


We don't refuse to so much as we don't have a person to consistently do it. I agree, we dropped the ball on that.

As for the firmware, I'm not familiar with the exact issue, but I don't think things are quite so simple as modifying the look up table.

It's high up on the list for firmware fixes.

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