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Topic: Nozzle Tube Question

After about a year of printing...my first clog (I was actually kind of happy so I could tear into the problem)!  The hollow of the threaded brass tube was solidly crystallized.  The torch method worked great!  But I have a question:

Why is the I.D. of the threaded tube so much larger (3.0mm)than the filament diameter (1.75)?  Seems to me that keeping this oversized reservoir of molten plastic would be a bad thing.  If the I.D. were closer to 1.8mm wouldn't there be a more precise push/extraction action going on?

SD2 - Stock - Enclosure - Heated Bed - Glass Plate - Auto Fire Extinguisher
Ord Bot Hadron - RAMPS 1.4 - Bulldog XL - E3D v6 - 10" x 10" PCB Heated Build w/SSR - Glass Plate
Thanks for All of Your Help!

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Re: Nozzle Tube Question

IronMan wrote:

Why is the I.D. of the threaded tube so much larger (3.0mm)than the filament diameter (1.75)?  Seems to me that keeping this oversized reservoir of molten plastic would be a bad thing.  If the I.D. were closer to 1.8mm wouldn't there be a more precise push/extraction action going on?

Yes, other hotends have different designs for this specific reason.

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That must explain why it seems to take hours for the new color filament to appear when I swap reels. I always wondered where all that old color plastic was packed :-).

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Looks like I'll be machining a new threaded rod this weekend!

SD2 - Stock - Enclosure - Heated Bed - Glass Plate - Auto Fire Extinguisher
Ord Bot Hadron - RAMPS 1.4 - Bulldog XL - E3D v6 - 10" x 10" PCB Heated Build w/SSR - Glass Plate
Thanks for All of Your Help!

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I had a clog on the first day of receiving my SD3 and broke my brass barrel trying to unclog it.  I had to machine a new barrel as well.  While I was at it, I replaced the entire extruder assembly so I didn't need the PEEK barrel anymore.  I believe my design is way better than the stock SD one and I haven't had a clog since!  I learned a few things that might help anyone looking to do the same.

I machined mine from M6 stainless steel threaded rod (60mm long works well so there is continuous tube from nozzle to hobbled gear).  You could also use regular steel which is easier to get from a local hardware store and easier to machine, but has a higher conductivity (You want as low conductivity as possible so that the heat stays near the nozzle and doesn't creep up the barrel.  This keeps the melt zone narrow and also prevents heat damage to plastic parts it is mounted to).  I also bought 4 copper washers and nuts to put at the top of the barrel to help with heat dissipation.

Here's what I did:
1) Bore a 2mm hole straight through the threaded rod
2) Mark where the rod will emerge from the heater block and grind a narrow ring there.  The best way to do this is to use a dremel with cutting wheel in one hand and spin the threaded rod in a drill with the other hand or use a drill press (photo attached).  While you are spinning the bit, it is helpful to smooth and shape the ends of the rod as well.  I ground a ring down to 3.5 mm diameter.  The reduced cross section will slow the heat travel up the barrel.  I also used dremel sanding discs to smooth the ends to a shine.
3) Screw the nozzle on tight, then the heater block.
4) Starting right above the ground spot, alternate nut/copper washer/nut/copper washer…etc. until about 15mm from the top.
5) My hardware store had M6 washers with the exact diameter of the original PEEK barrel mount.  Using two washers, two nuts, and a split washer, I was able to clamp the above extruder assembly onto the acrylic jigsaw very tightly (see photo).  This design makes it very easy to remove the assembly as well, you just loosen the nut with needle nose pliers and it slides right out.
6) Finally, I mounted a fan to actively cool the top of the barrel with the copper washers.  This may be unnecessary, but with it running the copper washers are cool enough to touch, so I know my melt zone is quite narrow.

A couple weeks ago one of my 8 hour prints ran out of filament about 5 hours in and I discovered it two hours later.  So my Nozzle was just moving over air for 2 hours with the nozzle at 205 degrees.  I was sure I would have a clog, but when I added filament, it just pushed right out.

One quick note about machining a center bore.  If you have access to a lathe you will be in good shape.  Otherwise, it is possible to do on a high quality drill press with a bed clamp using the following method: 1) insert drill bit into chuck upside down (cutting side up), 2) lower bit into a bed clamp and clamp tight.  Also clamp the bed clamp down to the bed, 3) loosen chuck and raise up off of the bit (you now have a bit clamped to the bed which is perfectly in line with the drill axis), 4) insert threaded rod into chuck, 5) with drill press on, lower threaded rod onto clamped bit SLOWLY clearing shavings often.  You can get a pretty straight hole this way.

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nice! it's may not be pretty but it looks like it gets the job done.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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As long as the prints are pretty!

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Poor man's E3D!

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I was gonna say, it looks like an E3D but made out of hardware store parts.  I like it!

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I still have to tabulate the total cost, but I don't think it is more than $15 (including the $8 I paid for a pizza in exchange for use of a local machine shop lathe).  The great part about it is that it is still stock SD heating block and thermistor so no changes to firmware or wiring are necessary.