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Topic: New E3D Installed

Hey guys I got my E3D hot end installed and it looks like it is scrapping the side of the barrel as it enters and I'm getting quite a bit of plastic shavings because of it.  My question is what should I do to better align it. I've got the MK5 extruder jigsaw. Thanks for all the help!

Solidoodle 3, Bulldog XL Direct Drive, Well Nut for Z axis, borosilicate glass, E3D V6 Hot end, Custom Encloser, Lawsy Carriages with Linear Bearings and Polished 8mm Chrome rods.

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Re: New E3D Installed

Sounds like you need to align the drive gear.  Look straight down in line with the filament path and you'll see what I'm talking about.  Just loosen the set screw and slide it on the shaft until it looks right.  You shouldn't have any shavings when things are set up properly.

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michaudtime,  Did you have to update the firmware?  IF so, lol, how did you do it?  I have been trying for days to update with no luck so far.

SD3, E3D hotend,linear bearing on x/y axis',pillow block bearing on y conneting rod, ball bearngs on front y axis, fan on y stepper motor.

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satman49 wrote:

michaudtime,  Did you have to update the firmware?  IF so, lol, how did you do it?  I have been trying for days to update with no luck so far.

This is definitely not my area of expertise but I did figure it out so maybe I can help.
Tell me what is going wrong and a little about your system and software your using.

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Thanks to all for your contributions

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satman49 wrote:

michaudtime,  Did you have to update the firmware?  IF so, lol, how did you do it?  I have been trying for days to update with no luck so far.

I used these steps and they worked for me great, just take your time.

en-rage wrote:

    I just updated my solidoodle 3 printers firmware tonight. It has the Printboard Rev E, my operating system is Windows 7 64bit

    These instructions I compiled after talking with Adrian, and reading the existing wiki (http://wiki.solidoodle.com/update-firmware)
    A: Download the Arduino IDE (www.arduino.cc)
    B: Download Teensyduino (http://pjrc.com/teensy/td_download.html)
    C: Download the firmware  (https://github.com/ozadr1an/Solidoodle- … in_v1_beta)
    D: Download the upload BootloaderHID (http://blog.lincomatic.com/wp-content/u … derHID.zip)

    1.    Install Arduiono IDE
    2.    By default it installed in C:/program files/Arduino (or program files C:/program files(x86)/Arduino)
    3.    Install Teenyduino
    4.    It will ask you where the arduino install is, point it to the above folder
    5.    Unzip the firmware file to a folder you will remember
    6.    Open the Arduino.exe (shortcut put on your desktop after the Arduino IDE installed
    7.    Click Tools, Board (might say Board:Arduino Uno) and select the Teensy ++2.0
    8.    Click Tools, Serial Port, and change it to the port of your printer
    (If you are unsure, and using windows, click the start button, right click computer, click properties, click device manager, and click on ports. Your printer will be the one listed as “USB serial port (Com X) write down whatever the x is, and put it in step 8)
    9.    Click File – Open
    10.    Browse to the folder you extracted in step 5, select the file (in the marlin folder) named Configureation.H , double click it or select it and click open
    11.    You will notice that there are several tabs across the top: Marlin, Configuration.H, ConfigurationStore.cpp etc, select the Configuration.H tab
    12.    Scroll down until you see (in black as the grey is comments and effects nothing)
    #define SOLIDOODLE_VERSION 2 (line 22 on mine) Change to #define SOLIDOODLE_VERSION 3                 
    13.    #define MOTHERBOARD  62 (line #76 on mine…you can tell the line by clicking the code, and looking at the bottom left, a number will be there, this is the line of code)
    Change it to read #define MOTHERBOARD 81
    14.    find #define TEMP_SENSOR_0 1 (line 120 ) and change to #define TEMP_SENSOR_0 6
    15.    find #define HEATER_0_MAXTEMP 225 (line145)  change to #define HEATER_0_MAXTEMP 350
    16.    350C is the max the thermister can is good for, the hotend can go higher, but you’ll need a thermocouple instead of the thermister
    17.    In the top arduino menu, click Sketch, then Verify/compile
    18.    If you installed Teensyduino, it will pop up a window, just close it
    19.    If your sketch does not report errors and simply gives you the Binary sketch size and memory use, it is safe to upload. If it reports errors, you have made a syntax error, and should recheck those lines you changed.
    20.    Before doing the final compile, click file – save (if you do not, it will not upload the changes)
    21.    Hold down SHIFT and click Compile
    22.    There has been a .hex file created. Marlin.cpp.hex, in my case (windows 7) it is under C:/users/whateverYourProfileNameIs/AppData/Local/Temp….it will be in the folder
    named build-xxxxxxxxx.tmp (the x’s are a string of numbers) created today. You must have view hidden or system files enabled in folder options (control panel. Have view folders by icon instead of category enabled, folder options,view, check Show hidden files and folders)
    23.    Unzip the BootloaderHID.Zip (step D) to a folder
    24.    Copy the Marlin.cpp.hex file, and past it in the folder above (the bootloaderHID folder
    25.    Make sure your computer is connected to the printer via usb cable
    26.    Add a jumper to the BOOT pins on the printboard (back of the printer) or bend the 2 pins so they are touching , then press the RESET button
    27.    Open a new command window (click the windows start button, and in the search programs field (windows vista or newer) type CMD.
    28.    Within the CMD window, navigate to the folder you unzipped the BootleaderHID to in step 23
    29.     Type “hid_bootloader_cli -mmcu=at90usb1286 -w -v Marlin.cpp.hex” (no quotations)
    30.    It should say something like “read Marlin.cpp.hex xx bytes, xx% usage, found halfkay bootloader, programming…………………..Booting
    31.    Remove the jumper, or unbend the boot pins on the printboard (back of the printer)
    32.    Press reset
    33.    Verify that you have updated them, start up Repetier Host.
    34.    Click Connect
    35.    Look at the bottom of the screen, you will see a greeting msg when you connect it should now read
    02:09:14.238 : echo:Unknown command: ""
    02:09:14.405 : FIRMWARE_NAME:Marlin V1; Sprinter/grbl mashup for gen6 FIRMWARE_URL:http://github.com/mlaws/solidoodle2-marlin/ PROTOCOL_VERSION:1.0 MACHINE_TYPE:Solidoodle EXTRUDER_COUNT:1
    02:09:14.405 : echo:Active Extruder: 0
    If you see the address changed to github.com instead of solidoodle, you know you're golden

Solidoodle 3, Bulldog XL Direct Drive, Well Nut for Z axis, borosilicate glass, E3D V6 Hot end, Custom Encloser, Lawsy Carriages with Linear Bearings and Polished 8mm Chrome rods.

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I have a SD3 running on win 8.1(also tried on xp pro), 644p chip. getting this errors:
core.a(main.cpp.o): in function main:
windows\arduino1.0.5\hardware\sangino\cores\adruino/main.cpp:11: undefined reference to `setup and
windows\arduino1.0.5\hardware\sangino\cores\adruino/main.cpp:11: undefined reference to `loop

SD3, E3D hotend,linear bearing on x/y axis',pillow block bearing on y conneting rod, ball bearngs on front y axis, fan on y stepper motor.

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wardjr wrote:

Sounds like you need to align the drive gear.  Look straight down in line with the filament path and you'll see what I'm talking about.  Just loosen the set screw and slide it on the shaft until it looks right.  You shouldn't have any shavings when things are set up properly.


Ok I see what your talking about my filament has to kind of curl back to the extruder hole. But I'm not sure what your talking about when you say set screw.

Solidoodle 3, Bulldog XL Direct Drive, Well Nut for Z axis, borosilicate glass, E3D V6 Hot end, Custom Encloser, Lawsy Carriages with Linear Bearings and Polished 8mm Chrome rods.

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Re: New E3D Installed

small allen screw in the hobbed gear that holds it on the shaft.  loosen it and line the gear up with the path and re-tighten the set screw.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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Ok I tried that bolt and that sucker is TIGHT, I can't break it free. Any tricks to get it loose?

and sorry satman I'm a pretty big newb at this stuff, Umm... did you check to make sure you had the right board selected before verifying it? it should be Teensy ++2.0

Solidoodle 3, Bulldog XL Direct Drive, Well Nut for Z axis, borosilicate glass, E3D V6 Hot end, Custom Encloser, Lawsy Carriages with Linear Bearings and Polished 8mm Chrome rods.

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on a side note I pulled the hot end apart to clean out a clog and found that the threaded connector has a slight bend on it and dosen't pass things through as it should... Just ordered a new one because I must have bent it somehow.

Solidoodle 3, Bulldog XL Direct Drive, Well Nut for Z axis, borosilicate glass, E3D V6 Hot end, Custom Encloser, Lawsy Carriages with Linear Bearings and Polished 8mm Chrome rods.

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No tricks just be careful to not strip it out.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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michaudtime wrote:

on a side note I pulled the hot end apart to clean out a clog and found that the threaded connector has a slight bend on it and dosen't pass things through as it should... Just ordered a new one because I must have bent it somehow.

It is made out of thin stainless steel to keep the melt zone short - you have to be gentle. Got your order, packing and shipping it today.

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elmoret wrote:

It is made out of thin stainless steel to keep the melt zone short - you have to be gentle. Got your order, packing and shipping it today.

Ya I knew it was my fault I get to excited sometimes lol. You guys rock thank you! :-)

Solidoodle 3, Bulldog XL Direct Drive, Well Nut for Z axis, borosilicate glass, E3D V6 Hot end, Custom Encloser, Lawsy Carriages with Linear Bearings and Polished 8mm Chrome rods.

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elmoret wrote:
It is made out of thin stainless steel to keep the melt zone short - you have to be gentle.

In RH there is setting for melt zone (1000mm)is default. Since I have E3D ,should I lower that?

SD3, E3D hotend,linear bearing on x/y axis',pillow block bearing on y conneting rod, ball bearngs on front y axis, fan on y stepper motor.

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Re: New E3D Installed

I never changed mine but you should experiment with it a little and let us know how it goes.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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ok  thanks, I 'll try and see what results.

SD3, E3D hotend,linear bearing on x/y axis',pillow block bearing on y conneting rod, ball bearngs on front y axis, fan on y stepper motor.