1 (edited by Shotline 2013-07-28 02:26:10)

Topic: Help with circle/XY calibration

Hi everyone, I have ran the circle calibration (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:84795) about 10 times and although the X and Y axis measurements come out to within a 10th of a millimeter, the nickle will not fit in the hole due to flat spots in the circle.

I have attached a picture that shows the problem.

There is a definite flat spot at the top and bottom of the inner and outer circles.

Please advise as to how I can eliminate this.

Thanks alot everyone.

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Re: Help with circle/XY calibration

Have you run through http://vimeo.com/55031028 ?

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adrian wrote:

Have you run through http://vimeo.com/55031028 ?

Yes I did (shortly after my original post) and while it helped substantially there are still slight flat spots at the same locations.  But I can now get the nickle to fit.

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Shotline wrote:
adrian wrote:

Have you run through http://vimeo.com/55031028 ?

Yes I did (shortly after my original post) and while it helped substantially there are still slight flat spots at the same locations.  But I can now get the nickle to fit.

I wouldn't worry about the flat spots too much unless they are severe. Slicer may be causing those when it draws the tool paths. It might be worth trying the same thing on another slicing program to find out.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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I still can't get the nickel to fit, but at least its really close to square. I'll try another slicing program too

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Re: Help with circle/XY calibration

do you think it could be from slight over extruding.

Ultimaker S3.

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What is your extruder steps per mm set to?

I had to bring mine down to 95 to get the nickle to fit. I read somewhere that normally it is around 110...not sure if this has to do with my E3D hotend or if I did something wrong, but I do get 38.10 outer diameter and the nickle fits.

E3D-v4 Hotend, MK5 carriage with round plastic wire conduit , 3/16" tempered glass,  Well nut, SureStepr SD8825 1/32 Extruder Driver, PowerEdge 2650 500W PS, QU-BD heated bed, circuit board fan, hinged plexiglass enclosure with plastic tray top. Other than that mostly stock SD3

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106.22  calibrated it before x/y calibration. measured and averaged my filament. i really dont think im over extruding. right now my multiplier is 1 if i take it down i can see signs of under-extruding  in the first layer. havent gotten around to downloading Kisslicer yet.

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I will have to download Kisslicer and try it, Skeinforge seems overly complicated (but maybe I will try it since it is included with Repetier Host).  My E steps are at 108.7 which was obtained from the extruder calibration from Ians blog (the straw method) and my extrusion multiplier is .81 which is needed to get accurate wall thicknesses.  I due have to reduce the flow rate to get the nickle to fit but that does result in improper infills.

The slight flat spots aren't that big of an issue for what I am doing right now.  My biggest problem is random and unexpected over-extrusions.  Every once in awhile it seems more plastic is extruded than should be which results in blobs along the exterior and/or bumps on the surface which causes the nozzle to catch and shake the build platform which increases the problem to the point where the build eventually gets knocked loose from the platform.  Could this be caused by variations in filament diameter?  Right now I am using Octave red which does seem to have significant variations in diameter (as much as .5 mm or more).

I am still tweaking the settings and it seems that each filament I use requires different settings.

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I lift up my hotend when it retracts during tavel. there's a z setting in the retraction tab. this avoids the "bumps" because hotend is flying over them, however, your overall print time will increase. :-) i think it's a good trade off.

Solidoodle2 with Ceramic tile heated bed http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2544/my- … eated-bed/
"1kg should last for an while" is a lie!

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RavensCrest wrote:

I lift up my hotend when it retracts during tavel. there's a z setting in the retraction tab. this avoids the "bumps" because hotend is flying over them, however, your overall print time will increase. :-) i think it's a good trade off.

I enabled that for a print that had many small parts that the extruder kept knocking over and it worked wonderfully.  But I read somewhere that it is hard on your Z axis motor.  I guess that it can't be that hard though as the X and Y axis are constantly moving and they are fine.

How much lift do you put on Z?  When I did it I put 1mm.

But that isn't my problem though.  I think that the problem is the Z axis doesn't do the proper steps on layer change.  I had the Well Nut Z wobble fix on it and think it might be causing it to jam.  I have taken it off and will test without it.  If that doesn't do the trick I might try upping the Z axis current to give the motor a bit more push.

What do you guys think?

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I have .4mm z lift.
anyway. i am trying to calibrate my solidoodle too... good luck

Solidoodle2 with Ceramic tile heated bed http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2544/my- … eated-bed/
"1kg should last for an while" is a lie!