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Topic: Trouble Calibrating

im trying to use this thing : thing#84795 to calibrate my machine following the directions provided in the link on the thingiverse page. and im  its not square!  no matter how many times i do the math and make the corrections its always off.  the nickel wont fit in the middle and the x and y axis are off.  but it is a pretty true circle. ive followed the true circle vid too.  ive done it 7 times now and i know the math is right. what else other than the extrusion multiplier  could be the culprit?

suggestions ?

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Re: Trouble Calibrating

Could still be your y belts.  I tune mine by ear.  Just make them as equal sounding as you can.

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SkyBlue what's this equal sound you are refering? screw tightening sound or moving sound? i couldn't notice any sound whiling tightening the screws...

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Re: Trouble Calibrating

MolecularConcept wrote:

im trying to use this thing : thing#84795 to calibrate my machine following the directions provided in the link on the thingiverse page. and im  its not square!  no matter how many times i do the math and make the corrections its always off.  the nickel wont fit in the middle and the x and y axis are off.  but it is a pretty true circle. ive followed the true circle vid too.  ive done it 7 times now and i know the math is right. what else other than the extrusion multiplier  could be the culprit?

suggestions ?

I went through that same exercise and it worked for me.  The first thing I seem to recall doing was a calibration cube to get wall thickness correct.  So I ended up adjusting flowrate *way* down (to around .8, if I recall) after doing the extrusion length calibration.

Then I iterated to get x and y dialed in.  The nickel still ended up being a real tight fit, but at that point I said "close enough ..."

@skyblue : By "sound", I'm guess the belts are tight enough so that when they are flicked they make a similar sound??

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i think hes referring to the motor sound. i did the true circle realignment as per the video. i tightened the belts up just now and in doing so i noticed the Y carriage is starting to DELAMINATE already! i put a couple drops od the ABS "glue" that i have started.

when re-doing the calibration, should i return the X and Y steps per min to their default 88.0 s/p/m ?  or recorrect the adjusted values? 

im going to reset to default (x/y) and try this again and post my results.

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I think recorrect the adjusted values is the way to go, as (I think) you are measuring differences based off of those numbers.  I seem to recall "zeroing in" on the numbers I needed to get the nickel to fit, albeit tightly.

I don't have my belts tightened anywhere near that tight, it seems.  At the moment, I'm still using the OEM x and y carriages.  I just received my E3D hotend the other day and will print out lawsy's MK5, as well as other parts.  I'm debating whether or not to break my rule of making incremental changes and recalibrating, or just doing all the mods at once and then figuring it out.  My head tells me the former approach makes sense.  My gut tells me the latter would be much more fun ... smile

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i had my numbers switched i got it squared up, well pretty darn close. but the nickel still dont fit. im not over extruding though. weird.

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Re: Trouble Calibrating

MolecularConcept wrote:

i had my numbers switched i got it squared up, well pretty darn close. but the nickel still dont fit. im not over extruding though. weird.

I found that even though I had my extrusion dialed in quite well using the straw method I still needed to tweak it a bit to get the nickle calibration to work. I did this a couple days ago and it took 7 prints to get it dialed in, but was nice to finally have the nickle fall into the hole big_smile

Edit: 7 prints total, only 3 or so to dial in the extruder multiplier.

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Are you using the  version of the firmware that has hysteresis (M98/M99 commands) adjustment?  I have this in my start code (arrived at after measuring with dial indicator ...)

M99 Y0.05 ;set y-axis hysteresis
M99 X0.0 ;set x-axis hysteresis = half y-axis?
M98 ;display hysteresis settings

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I don't think I am...that would appear in my gcode after slicing?

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You would have needed to upgrade your firmware.  An easy test is while the printer is connected to enter as a manual command (in RH, for example), "M98" and see what comes back.

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ha i got the printrboard as far as i know you cant upgrade the firmware.