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Topic: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

I've had the solidoodle for about a month now. Been through much of the learning curve for a newb. Still stuck on one though. Using RH and Slic3r, I'm finding that I can only print between a 5 or 6" object. I added about a 10mm dump area to the right because the x home seemed about that far off. But this still didn't do anything for the fact that the printer thinks the center of the printer is 2 or 3" to the right and back.

I'm sure someone an easy fix for this, just nothing I've tried has worked so far.
Thanks in advance guys and gals.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

Are you sure you using the right profile?

This is what happens when you have your Slic3r settings set up for a S2 when you actually have an S3 (or vice versa)

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

Would you mind posting the right settings?  I've played with them some, with not much luck so far.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

3DGravey wrote:

Would you mind posting the right settings?  I've played with them some, with not much luck so far.

Just make sure you have the correct Slic3r profile set, and that your config settings for RH reflect the correct bed size. Which Solidoodle do you have?

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

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3DGravey wrote:

Would you mind posting the right settings?  I've played with them some, with not much luck so far.

Just make sure you have the correct Slic3r profile set, and that your config settings for RH reflect the correct bed size. Which Solidoodle do you have?


I'm using a solidoodle 3
I have the bed size set to 200mm x&y
Print center 100mm x&y
Z offset 0

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

Still no help...

Something is preventing me from changing the bed size and center.
No matter what I do to the settings nothing changes. The print starts to the back and to the right.

Anyone understanding my problem it would be greatly appreciated if you could "shed some light".

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Remember you have to set both Repetier and Slic3r settings to the correct bed size if you only have one set it will do like you are seeing.

Do the numbers on repetiers screen near the arrows reflect where the print head is, ie...y=100, x=100 print head is in center when manually moving the printhead after homing it?

In slicers 'configure' screen under bed size when you save the profile make sure you reselect the profile when the requester box comes up after you click on save then when you are going to slice something make sure you select the profile you just saved in all the locations.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

I have the same issue months after  receiving my SD3.  Tried all I can find,  to change center, to no avail.  Mine is off to the right about40mm and y about 20mm.  I also would like a solution.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

ronsii wrote:

Remember you have to set both Repetier and Slic3r settings to the correct bed size if you only have one set it will do like you are seeing.

Do the numbers on repetiers screen near the arrows reflect where the print head is, ie...y=100, x=100 print head is in center when manually moving the printhead after homing it?

In slicers 'configure' screen under bed size when you save the profile make sure you reselect the profile when the requester box comes up after you click on save then when you are going to slice something make sure you select the profile you just saved in all the locations.


When manually moving the print head it seems that the 100mm setting for both x&y center would be correct.
But there is something superseding this setting when I go to print.
Off by about 2 inches to the right on the x axis, and almost the same to the back on the y axis.
I've changed setting in both RH & slic3r with no change to where a print starts.

I even tried changing the bed size to twice what it is with no change to where the print starts...

Is there a chance it's a firmware issue I'm having?!?

It's amazing I'm not the only one with this problem and there appears to be no solution to the problem.   
How could this be?!?

...super frustrating, I should have saved some money and just gotten a solidoodle 2.  All the extra real-estate is a waste in my machine!

Oh and thanks to the solidoodle employee that started responding to this post...after all your questions you were completely NO HELP!!!

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

If you can manually move the head in repetier from 1 to 200 in both x and y then the problem is most likely in the slicer settings.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

Post what you have as start gcode in Slic3r.  THe problem may be there.

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IanJohnson wrote:

Post what you have as start gcode in Slic3r.  THe problem may be there.


here are the first 30 or so lines of code:

; generated by Slic3r 0.9.9 on 2013-07-25 at 19:41:41

; layer_height = 0.35
; perimeters = 3
; top_solid_layers = 3
; bottom_solid_layers = 3
; fill_density = .4
; perimeter_speed = 30
; infill_speed = 60
; travel_speed = 130
; nozzle_diameter = 0.5
; filament_diameter = 1.67
; extrusion_multiplier = .90
; perimeters extrusion width = 0.42mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.42mm
; solid infill extrusion width = 0.42mm
; top infill extrusion width = 0.42mm
; support material extrusion width = 0.21mm
; first layer extrusion width = 0.53mm

G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
M104 S190 ; set temperature
G28 ; home all axes
G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle
M109 S190 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0
G1 Z0.350 F7800.000
G1 X40.587 Y37.347
G1 F1800.000 E1.00000
G1 X42.027 Y35.877 F540.000 E1.15378


could be something I'm overlooking... not sure

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

3DGravey wrote:
IanJohnson wrote:

Post what you have as start gcode in Slic3r.  THe problem may be there.


here are the first 30 or so lines of code:

; generated by Slic3r 0.9.9 on 2013-07-25 at 19:41:41

; layer_height = 0.35
; perimeters = 3
; top_solid_layers = 3
; bottom_solid_layers = 3
; fill_density = .4
; perimeter_speed = 30
; infill_speed = 60
; travel_speed = 130
; nozzle_diameter = 0.5
; filament_diameter = 1.67
; extrusion_multiplier = .90
; perimeters extrusion width = 0.42mm
; infill extrusion width = 0.42mm
; solid infill extrusion width = 0.42mm
; top infill extrusion width = 0.42mm
; support material extrusion width = 0.21mm
; first layer extrusion width = 0.53mm

G21 ; set units to millimeters
M107
M104 S190 ; set temperature
G28 ; home all axes
G1 Z5 F5000 ; lift nozzle
M109 S190 ; wait for temperature to be reached
G90 ; use absolute coordinates
G92 E0
M82 ; use absolute distances for extrusion
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0
G1 Z0.350 F7800.000
G1 X40.587 Y37.347
G1 F1800.000 E1.00000
G1 X42.027 Y35.877 F540.000 E1.15378


could be something I'm overlooking... not sure

Have you been able to resolve the issue?

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

No resolution as of yet.

     The only workaround I've been using is to move the object to the front left corner in the object placement screen. This works to center the object as long as the object isn't larger than about 5"x5".

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

I know it is stupid to mention and you have probably thought of this already. When you go to the slicer screen of RH. Are you selecting the Solidoodle 3 setup to slice with? See photo below.

http://2n2r5.com/pictures/printer/show-n-tell/rh_printer_select.bmp

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Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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2n2r5 wrote:

I know it is stupid to mention and you have probably thought of this already. When you go to the slicer screen of RH. Are you selecting the Solidoodle 3 setup to slice with? See photo below.

http://2n2r5.com/pictures/printer/show-n-tell/rh_printer_select.bmp


Definitely not stupid to mention!   I'm glad you posted a picture of what your RH screen looks like. I'm on a Mac, so I'm not sure if that's what the difference is or I have the wrong version of RH... But there are no preloaded profiles for any printer. I've been building my own profile from what ever I've found on line, and  trial & error.

At least there is some discrepancy to point to now. Thanks again for the screenshot, and any info you have on what could be my next step is greatly appreciated.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

I just pulled this from Solidoodle's site.

It's a how to for setting up the software for macs. It includes the .ini file to import into slic3r as well as a PDF for setting up RH.

http://www.solidoodle.com/wp-content/up … ctions.zip

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Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

solidoodlesupport wrote:

Are you sure you using the right profile?

This is what happens when you have your Slic3r settings set up for a S2 when you actually have an S3 (or vice versa)

After you import those .ini files into slicer, you should be able to select the appropriate printer as John was trying to point out before.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

2n2r5's Website

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Both those files, near as I can tell are solidoodle2.
I tried loading them both and they set the bed size for a sd2.
And are even labeled sd2.
Thought we were onto something there for a sec smile

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Re: SD3 Bed size calibration problem... Please help!

Hey, I have just gotten my s3, and I got the same problem.
When connecting to the s3 the info from the s3 is:"
15:39:57.273 : FIRMWARE_NAME:Marlin V1; Sprinter/grbl mashup for Printrboard FIRMWARE_URL<cant post links >how-to-2/how-to-update-firmware/ PROTOCOL_VERSION:1.0 MACHINE_TYPE:Solidoodle_2 EXTRUDER_COUNT:1
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Does the MACHINE_TYPE:Solidoodle_2 Mean that the controller is for the s2?
When I start a print the repiter say that the x&y = 100 witch shuld be center, but it's back and to the right.
But when I manually move it to x&y = 100, its pretty much centered.