What chip do I have? (Page 2 of 2)

**wardjr** · 2013-07-19 16:15:29

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

So... after way to many hours of trying to figure this out I finally got to the correct configuration.h file using adrian's github.
Thank You for all of your help. I will keep you posted.
My next step is to figure out what changes I need to make in configuration.h that will work with my heat bed setup.
I am looking for some ideas?

wardjr wrote:

So I will try that next but I think I am opening the wrong configuration.h (not config.h) file. The one I think I am supposed to use and the only one I can find is in the MARLIN_SD3_ folder is that the right one?
2n2r5 wrote:
Try adrian's github https://github.com/ozadr1an/Solidoodle-Marlin_v1/ if you still have a config.h and not a configuration.h then that could be an issue.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**adrian** · 2013-07-19 16:21:59

adrian
Member
Offline

From: Canberra, Australia
Registered: 2013-01-15
Posts: 1,623

Re: What chip do I have?

Its a little backward.. but you first need to enable PIDTEMP and then pick a base to run with - there is some 250W 120VAC examples in the source code that should be good for a first run. Simply remove the // from ONE set of #define DEFAULT_bedKp etc, and make sure all the others are commented out (have // in front of them). The firmware will use the last defined one, so scroll down and make sure they are all commented out except for one.

Then you need to recompile and upload the firmware, and do as per the comment:

// FIND YOUR OWN: "M303 E-1 C8 S90" to run autotune on the bed at 90 degreesC for 8 cycles.

That will produce a set of P, I and D numbers to use. You run that G-Code inside Repetier-Host under the Manual Tab and the results will be dumped out down the bottom in the Log section. Make a note of them, switch back to Arduino IDE, Plug these in to replace the bed you uncommented.

Recompile, reupload.

Voila, you have PID Tuned your bed all things being equal

**2n2r5** · 2013-07-19 16:30:10

2n2r5
Member
Offline

From: Frederick, MD
Registered: 2013-05-09
Posts: 1,208

Re: What chip do I have?

adrian wrote:

Its a little backward.. but you first need to enable PIDTEMP and then pick a base to run with - there is some 250W 120VAC examples in the source code that should be good for a first run. Simply remove the // from ONE set of #define DEFAULT_bedKp etc, and make sure all the others are commented out (have // in front of them). The firmware will use the last defined one, so scroll down and make sure they are all commented out except for one.
Then you need to recompile and upload the firmware, and do as per the comment:
// FIND YOUR OWN: "M303 E-1 C8 S90" to run autotune on the bed at 90 degreesC for 8 cycles.
That will produce a set of P, I and D numbers to use. You run that G-Code inside Repetier-Host under the Manual Tab and the results will be dumped out down the bottom in the Log section. Make a note of them, switch back to Arduino IDE, Plug these in to replace the bed you uncommented.
Recompile, reupload.
Voila, you have PID Tuned your bed all things being equal

I like to make my own instead of replacing one. If you make your own for a new bed style, you can update the githib and everyone will be richer ... But per usual +1 to Adrian. We need a reputation system.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

**wardjr** · 2013-07-19 17:46:33

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

You guys have been such a big help. I will do my very best to work though all the scenarios of this set up and verify reliable results before I even think about suggesting someone else try it.
Am I the only one wondering if adrian ever sleeps?

Thanks Again

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**wardjr** · 2013-07-19 19:18:05

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

So I have uploaded the firmware with the changes but when I run M303 E-1 C8 S90 For bed PID auto tune it tunes the extruder not the the bed. What am I doing wrong?

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**wardjr** · 2013-07-23 15:42:20

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

I am guessing I am not getting the firmware changes uploaded properly.
My question is when I change the configuration.h file does it need to be saved before I try to upload it?
If so Arduino wants to change the file extension from .pde to .ino does that seem correct?
Is there any way to really check to see if an upload actually worked?

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 16:10:02

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

Wardjr,

To PID autotne the Extrude the command is M303 S200 C5

The M303 E-1 C8 S90 is for the bed autotune.

Once you change the Configuration.h file you must save before uplaoding.

The .ino is the new extension for arduino files, the .pde was for the older versions it will still work fine with the new extension

**wardjr** · 2013-07-23 17:07:42

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

So when I go to upload I get an orange message
"avrdude: stk500_getsync () : not in sync: resp=0x00"
What does that mean?

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 17:19:27

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

Are yo sure you have the right board chosen from the BOARDS menu?

**wardjr** · 2013-07-23 17:27:31

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

only as sure as the earlier posts suggest that I have Sanguino W/Atmega 644p?
and that's the one I have selected.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 17:43:23

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

That is correct basedo nprevious posts.

Try hitting the reset button on the sanguino as soon as you see "Binary sketch size:...." show up in the dialog box

That was an old trick with the 022 version of the ide but might fix your problem.

**wardjr** · 2013-07-23 17:46:37

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

Just tried that and same warning but ends with resp=0x89
I am kind of running out of ideas.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 17:51:20

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

Try looking at below

stk500_getsync
Arduino may return the following error when attempting to load firmware:

avrdude: stk500_getsync():not in sync: resp=0x00
avrdude: stk500_disable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x51
workaround
To resolve for boards older than Rev 1.3a, hold the reset button on your Sanguinololu for about 10 seconds. While still holding the button, try to upload the firmware again (File --> Upload to Board). Let go of the reset button as soon as Arduino reports, "Binary sketch size: ###### bytes (of a 63488 byte maximum)". The firmware should now be accepted.

permanent fix
A fix was added in Rev 1.3a. If unpopulated (like mine), solder a 2 pin header to the "Autoreset Enable" jumper labeled AUTO RST on the silkscreen. This is located between the Z stepper motor socket and pins 8-10 of the ATMEGA644P socket. In addition to this procedure, you should also set your Virtual COM port parameter "RTS on close" to ON.

THE FIX: Adding the jumper allows the PC reset the Sanguino board programming and interactive sessions.

THE DEFAULT: Removing the jumper allows the printer to run in standalone mode; that is, the micro controller will not reset mid print when the PC is disconnected or reconnected.

Another Solution
Another thing to check is the baudrate in the " Boards.txt" folder. (in hardware/Sanguino ) Change atmega644p.upload.speed=57600 to atmega644p.upload.speed=38400 Arduino will not take changes in this folder if it is not restarted.

Some users may experience a new error after changing the baudrate to 38400. I, for instance, in editing the "Boards" text file deleted a new line division (recreated with the enter key), not realizing it was essential for the proper function of Arduino IDE v0023. After the following error the IDE froze while displaying an "uploading" status:

**wardjr** · 2013-07-23 18:21:44

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

I'll give that a try in a couple hours, for now it's back to work.
Thanks

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 18:25:54

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

Also, check you device manager to ensure the arduino is connected to the right COM port and the FTDI drivers are installed correctly.

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 18:40:16

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

avrdude: stk500_getsync(): not in sync: resp=0x00
If you get the following error message "avrdude: stk500_getsync(): not in sync: resp=0x00" that means that the Arduino is not responding. There are literally dozens of reasons this could be.

Check the following:

•If you have a NG Arduino, did you press reset just before selecting Upload menu item?
•Is the correct Serial Port selected?
•Is the correct driver installed?
•Is the chip inserted into the Arduino properly?
•Does the chip have the correct bootloader on it?

Note that it is nearly impossible for anyone to debug this, as there are so many possible issues. Try everything.

**wardjr** · 2013-07-23 23:09:42

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

I finally got the upload to work which is great. The downside is I had to go back to Arduino 0022.
I will address that later... for now I got M303 E-1 C8 S90 to work on the bed and now have very constant temps on the bed.
Thank You to all that helped me through this process.
I will get a video up in the next couple of days to demonstrate the amazing speed of an AC bed heater that is now able to not over shoot by 15 to 20 degrees.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

**2n2r5** · 2013-07-23 23:35:01

2n2r5
Member
Offline

From: Frederick, MD
Registered: 2013-05-09
Posts: 1,208

Re: What chip do I have?

wardjr wrote:

I finally got the upload to work which is great. The downside is I had to go back to Arduino 0022.
I will address that later... for now I got M303 E-1 C8 S90 to work on the bed and now have very constant temps on the bed.
Thank You to all that helped me through this process.
I will get a video up in the next couple of days to demonstrate the amazing speed of an AC bed heater that is now able to not over shoot by 15 to 20 degrees.

That is what I said in an earlier post about Arduino 0022. I don't know why but it doesn't really matter. Just do what I do... use it and be happy it works.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

**rjp350z** · 2013-07-23 23:44:56

rjp350z
Member
Offline

From: Bloomfield, NJ
Registered: 2013-01-11
Posts: 249

Re: What chip do I have?

2n2r5 wrote:

wardjr wrote:
I finally got the upload to work which is great. The downside is I had to go back to Arduino 0022.
I will address that later... for now I got M303 E-1 C8 S90 to work on the bed and now have very constant temps on the bed.
Thank You to all that helped me through this process.
I will get a video up in the next couple of days to demonstrate the amazing speed of an AC bed heater that is now able to not over shoot by 15 to 20 degrees.
That is what I said in an earlier post about Arduino 0022. I don't know why but it doesn't really matter. Just do what I do... use it and be happy it works.

I use 1.05 and have no issues with uploading at all. Could it be because I'm using the 1284 instead of the original 644P

**2n2r5** · 2013-07-24 03:29:52

2n2r5
Member
Offline

From: Frederick, MD
Registered: 2013-05-09
Posts: 1,208

Re: What chip do I have?

I solved my issues that were keeping me from being able to upload using 1.0.5.

My bootloader got corrupt somehow but anyways and I had to burn it again. With the proper libraries, 1.xx works fine. As adrian pointed out to me, we should really be migrating away from the old Arduino 0022.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

**wardjr** · 2013-07-29 15:32:56

wardjr
Moderator
Offline

From: Minnesota
Registered: 2013-06-10
Posts: 5,624

Re: What chip do I have?

I have done several very successful prints with this setup and it holds temp within 1 degree.
This is what I ended up with if some one wants to toss it on github, maybe adrian since this seems to be your area of expertise.

#ifdef PIDTEMPBED
//120v 500W silicone heater W/SSR
//from pidautotune
#define DEFAULT_bedKp 174.56
#define DEFAULT_bedKi 21.65
#define DEFAULT_bedKd 351.78

Just a quick update... E3D hot end showed up so I've been busy getting it dialed in.
So far I love it.

2n2r5 wrote:

adrian wrote:
Its a little backward.. but you first need to enable PIDTEMP and then pick a base to run with - there is some 250W 120VAC examples in the source code that should be good for a first run. Simply remove the // from ONE set of #define DEFAULT_bedKp etc, and make sure all the others are commented out (have // in front of them). The firmware will use the last defined one, so scroll down and make sure they are all commented out except for one.
Then you need to recompile and upload the firmware, and do as per the comment:
// FIND YOUR OWN: "M303 E-1 C8 S90" to run autotune on the bed at 90 degreesC for 8 cycles.
That will produce a set of P, I and D numbers to use. You run that G-Code inside Repetier-Host under the Manual Tab and the results will be dumped out down the bottom in the Log section. Make a note of them, switch back to Arduino IDE, Plug these in to replace the bed you uncommented.
Recompile, reupload.
Voila, you have PID Tuned your bed all things being equal
I like to make my own instead of replacing one. If you make your own for a new bed style, you can update the githib and everyone will be richer ... But per usual +1 to Adrian. We need a reputation system.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

What chip do I have? (Page 2 of 2)

Posts: 26 to 46 of 46

26 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-19 16:15:29

Re: What chip do I have?

27 Reply by adrian 2013-07-19 16:21:59 (edited by adrian 2013-07-19 16:23:13)

Re: What chip do I have?

28 Reply by 2n2r5 2013-07-19 16:30:10

Re: What chip do I have?

29 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-19 17:46:33

Re: What chip do I have?

30 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-19 19:18:05

Re: What chip do I have?

31 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-23 15:42:20

Re: What chip do I have?

32 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 16:10:02

Re: What chip do I have?

33 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-23 17:07:42

Re: What chip do I have?

34 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 17:19:27

Re: What chip do I have?

35 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-23 17:27:31

Re: What chip do I have?

36 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 17:43:23

Re: What chip do I have?

37 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-23 17:46:37

Re: What chip do I have?

38 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 17:51:20

Re: What chip do I have?

39 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-23 18:21:44

Re: What chip do I have?

40 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 18:25:54 (edited by rjp350z 2013-07-23 18:28:06)

Re: What chip do I have?

41 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 18:40:16

Re: What chip do I have?

42 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-23 23:09:42

Re: What chip do I have?

43 Reply by 2n2r5 2013-07-23 23:35:01

Re: What chip do I have?

44 Reply by rjp350z 2013-07-23 23:44:56

Re: What chip do I have?

45 Reply by 2n2r5 2013-07-24 03:29:52

Re: What chip do I have?

46 Reply by wardjr 2013-07-29 15:32:56

Re: What chip do I have?

Posts: 26 to 46 of 46