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Topic: Electronics Wiring Not Explained

I am a mechanic, not electrician. The instructions make some assumptions when it comes to wiring the electronics.

"Connect as shown in figure 1" is not enough.

Can someone please re-diagram the electronics to include each of the switch connections and motor and indicate where 2 or more wires need to be twisted together.

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John,

Sorry the diagram was confusing. I'll try to take it step by step.

The power supply has two wires on its output - red (positive) and black (negative).

Black goes straight to terminal 2 on the PID, where it is joined by 3 other wires - one heater wire (either, heaters dont have polarity), the black fan wire, and a wire to the motor terminal (the one with the red dot near it)

Red goes to the center pin of both switches.

One of the outside pins of one of the switches goes to terminal 1 on the PID.
One of the outside pins of the other switch goes to the red fan wire, as well as the other motor terminal.

Connect a jumper from terminals 1 to 4 of the PID.
Connect the other heater wire to terminal 3 of the PID.

So:
Terminal 1 of the PID has 2 wires under it
Terminal 2 of the PID has 4 wires under it
Terminals 3 and 4 each have 1 wire under them
The first switch has 2 wires on the center terminal, one wire on one of the outside terminals (either is ok)
The second switch has 1 wire on the center terminal, two wires on one of the outside terminals (either is ok)

Hope that helps!

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So, is this right?

(I've tried to upload an image but this forum is weird about links and images)

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The forms doesn't let you do embedded images/links until you've had 10 posts. It's an anti-spam thing.

That diagram's not quite right yet...

Positive of the power supply connects to middle terminal of both switches, and nowhere else.
One outside terminal of one switch goes to motor + and fan +.
One outside terminal of the other switch goes to PID terminal 1.

5 (edited by mrjohnecker 2013-06-21 17:27:57)

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Ok, I think I've fixed it. The arches are where two wires cross but do not touch. And the circles are showing that those two wires join.

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Tim you plan to make a video of that and some easy diagram for fools like me....:)

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nachokaos wrote:

Tim you plan to make a video of that and some easy diagram for fools like me....:)

To me a video of electrical wiring is even more confusing. I've tried to take pictures and video but it doesn't come out well.

Honestly if you follow the text instructions I posted above you should be fine.

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mrjohnecker wrote:

Ok, I think I've fixed it. The arches are where two wires cross but do not touch. And the circles are showing that those two wires join.

Looks good! I had the power supply and fan reversed in your first diagram - I had incorrectly assumed the fan was the rectangular component since it was grouped with the motor and heater.

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Found an online wiring diagram maker. Hopefully this will help others.

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mrjohnecker wrote:

Found an online wiring diagram maker. Hopefully this will help others.

Thanks John. If you want to upload the CircuitLab file, I'll modify it for the new PID controllers I'm transitioning to.

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https://www.circuitlab.com/circuit/4vw5p5/filastruder/

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elmoret wrote:
mrjohnecker wrote:

Found an online wiring diagram maker. Hopefully this will help others.

Thanks John. If you want to upload the CircuitLab file, I'll modify it for the new PID controllers I'm transitioning to.

Thanks both.  Tim any chance you could also do a version that covers the "Autostart" wiring described by D-Tek in this post:  http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2807/dte … uide-mods/

Thanks,
Craig

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CraigRK wrote:
elmoret wrote:
mrjohnecker wrote:

Found an online wiring diagram maker. Hopefully this will help others.

Thanks John. If you want to upload the CircuitLab file, I'll modify it for the new PID controllers I'm transitioning to.

Thanks both.  Tim any chance you could also do a version that covers the "Autostart" wiring described by D-Tek in this post:  http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2807/dte … uide-mods/

Thanks,
Craig

D-tek did upload a schematic. It should make its way into the next manual.

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elmoret wrote:

D-tek did upload a schematic. It should make its way into the next manual.

True, sorry, I didn't notice it.

I see my Kit is on the way out of Miami, so I should be building soon I hope.  Depends on customs and what not...

Masterbatch, ABS and PLA Pellets available for UK and Europe.
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elmoret wrote:

John,

Sorry the diagram was confusing. I'll try to take it step by step.

The power supply has two wires on its output - red (positive) and black (negative).

Black goes straight to terminal 2 on the PID, where it is joined by 3 other wires - one heater wire (either, heaters dont have polarity), the black fan wire, and a wire to the motor terminal (the one with the red dot near it)

Red goes to the center pin of both switches.

One of the outside pins of one of the switches goes to terminal 1 on the PID.
One of the outside pins of the other switch goes to the red fan wire, as well as the other motor terminal.

Connect a jumper from terminals 1 to 4 of the PID.
Connect the other heater wire to terminal 3 of the PID.

So:
Terminal 1 of the PID has 2 wires under it
Terminal 2 of the PID has 4 wires under it
Terminals 3 and 4 each have 1 wire under them
The first switch has 2 wires on the center terminal, one wire on one of the outside terminals (either is ok)
The second switch has 1 wire on the center terminal, two wires on one of the outside terminals (either is ok)

Hope that helps!

i was trying to follow this to do the wiring on my filastruder. I looked at my PID controller(it's a Sestos) and i dont have a terminal #2. There are 12 labeled terminals but #2 is blank. I'm not much of an electrician so any help would be appreciated.

Thank you very much.

Mark

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phoneguy0225 wrote:

i was trying to follow this to do the wiring on my filastruder. I looked at my PID controller(it's a Sestos) and i dont have a terminal #2. There are 12 labeled terminals but #2 is blank. I'm not much of an electrician so any help would be appreciated.

Thank you very much.

Mark


There's a schematic for the Sestos in the assembly instructions. What part is confusing? Happy to help!

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Sorry i was looking at the wrong schematic.

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The schematic for the Sestos does not explain which pin corresponds to PIN 2 on the Mypin PID. I think you guys should redraw the schematic for the Sestos to avoid ambiguity or at least rewrite the steps shown above for the Sestos PID.

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i am a bit confused and would like some help
i have the version 1.2 Filastruder

it comes with Sestos D1S-2R-24 Temperature controller

i managed almost everything except for:

- Do i connect the (+) from the switches to Pin 8 and Pin 9 ? or just one of them and bridge it to the other ?
- the Thermocouple sensor wire goes between the Heater and the clamp ? and how far do i need to strip the wire ?

thank you in advance

P.S. Pictures do help more than explanations smile

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- Connect to one and bridge to the other, as shown on the schematic in the PDF.
- Do not strip the temperature sensor, insert it in the hole in the side of the nozzle, as described in the PDF.

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Cheers !

i saw the pin hole after i posted

thanks,

22 (edited by foofoodog 2013-10-26 21:05:34)

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I made a feeble drawing of how I think I have my 1.3 set up. I switch my fan with the motor. Polarity is not shown. Note orange (8-9) jumper. Please verify, proceed with caution and at your own risk.

The manual here looks like it might be helpful for setting up the alarm circuit if you think you need it or for more advanced functions. http://www.sestos-hk.com/english/download/d1s-en.pdf

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i would like to share the simplify wiring diagram, drawn by me.

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I too am having some issues with wiring and all of the above helped, THANKS! This is probably the stupidest question ever, but I'm having trouble figuring out which wire out of my power supply is positive. The instructions above say the psu will have red/black, however mine has Blue/Brown. I'm guessing the positive is blue, but I don't really know how to check with my meter. Can anybody advise? Thanks!

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Connect meter to wires.
Plug in power supply.
If reading on meter is "12.xx", then whatever the red meter lead is connected to is positive.
If reading on meter is "-12.xx", then whatever the red meter lead is connected to is negative.