1 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-09-12 19:16:33)

Topic: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello Everyone,

I am very new at 3d Printing and I am seeking more experienced help. I know your time is valuable and I am super grateful for any help I will even pay you for any help you can give to help me solve my problem.

I have built a Cartesian 3d Printer with 2 extruders, heated bed an Azteeg X3 Pro board, Viki LCD Screen, with a 12Volt 25Amp power supply.

I have connected heated bed, stepper motors, extruders, power supply all according to its correct specs and diagrams provided by manufactures.

I have uploaded Repetier Firmware and am using Repetier Host to communicate with board and after many hours and a new computer I finally configured everything correctly and it is connected without any errors... BUT, I cannot get the stepper motors to move, they just vibrate. The heated bed works and extruders 1 and 2 do not heat. Any ideas on what my issue might be? I am happy to send more pictures.

Have a great day and thank you in advance for hearing me out.

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/*
    This file is part of Repetier-Firmware.

    Repetier-Firmware is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
    it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
    the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
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    but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
    MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
    GNU General Public License for more details.

    You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
    along with Repetier-Firmware.  If not, see <[url]http://www.gnu.org/licenses/[/url]>.

*/

#ifndef CONFIGURATION_H
#define CONFIGURATION_H

/**************** READ FIRST ************************

   This configuration file was created with the configuration tool. For that
   reason, it does not contain the same informations as the original Configuration.h file.
   It misses the comments and unused parts. Open this file file in the config tool
   to see and change the data. You can also upload it to newer/older versions. The system
   will silently add new options, so compilation continues to work.

   This file is optimized for version 0.92
   generator: [url]http://www.repetier.com/firmware/v092/[/url]

   If you are in doubt which named functions use which pins on your board, please check the
   pins.h for the used name->pin assignments and your board documentation to verify it is
   as you expect.

*/

#define NUM_EXTRUDER 2
#define MOTHERBOARD 35
#include "pins.h"

// ################## EDIT THESE SETTINGS MANUALLY ################
// ################ END MANUAL SETTINGS ##########################

#define FAN_BOARD_PIN -1

//#define EXTERNALSERIAL  use Arduino serial library instead of build in. Requires more ram, has only 63 byte input buffer.
// Uncomment the following line if you are using arduino compatible firmware made for Arduino version earlier then 1.0
// If it is incompatible you will get compiler errors about write functions not beeing compatible!
//#define COMPAT_PRE1
#define BLUETOOTH_SERIAL  -1
#define BLUETOOTH_BAUD  115200
#define MIXING_EXTRUDER 0

#define DRIVE_SYSTEM 0
#define XAXIS_STEPS_PER_MM 80
#define YAXIS_STEPS_PER_MM 80
#define ZAXIS_STEPS_PER_MM 80
#define EXTRUDER_FAN_COOL_TEMP 50
#define PDM_FOR_EXTRUDER 0
#define PDM_FOR_COOLER 0
#define DECOUPLING_TEST_MAX_HOLD_VARIANCE 20
#define DECOUPLING_TEST_MIN_TEMP_RISE 1
#define KILL_IF_SENSOR_DEFECT 0
#define RETRACT_ON_PAUSE 2
#define PAUSE_START_COMMANDS ""
#define PAUSE_END_COMMANDS ""
#define EXT0_X_OFFSET 0
#define EXT0_Y_OFFSET 0
#define EXT0_Z_OFFSET 0
#define EXT0_STEPS_PER_MM 370
#define EXT0_TEMPSENSOR_TYPE 1
#define EXT0_TEMPSENSOR_PIN THERMOCOUPLE_0_PIN
#define EXT0_HEATER_PIN HEATER_0_PIN
#define EXT0_STEP_PIN ORIG_E0_STEP_PIN
#define EXT0_DIR_PIN ORIG_E0_DIR_PIN
#define EXT0_INVERSE 0
#define EXT0_ENABLE_PIN E0_ENABLE_PIN
#define EXT0_ENABLE_ON 0
#define EXT0_MAX_FEEDRATE 50
#define EXT0_MAX_START_FEEDRATE 20
#define EXT0_MAX_ACCELERATION 5000
#define EXT0_HEAT_MANAGER 3
#define EXT0_WATCHPERIOD 1
#define EXT0_PID_INTEGRAL_DRIVE_MAX 230
#define EXT0_PID_INTEGRAL_DRIVE_MIN 40
#define EXT0_PID_PGAIN_OR_DEAD_TIME 7
#define EXT0_PID_I 2
#define EXT0_PID_D 40
#define EXT0_PID_MAX 255
#define EXT0_ADVANCE_K 0
#define EXT0_ADVANCE_L 0
#define EXT0_ADVANCE_BACKLASH_STEPS 0
#define EXT0_WAIT_RETRACT_TEMP 150
#define EXT0_WAIT_RETRACT_UNITS 0
#define EXT0_SELECT_COMMANDS ""
#define EXT0_DESELECT_COMMANDS ""
#define EXT0_EXTRUDER_COOLER_PIN -1
#define EXT0_EXTRUDER_COOLER_SPEED 255
#define EXT0_DECOUPLE_TEST_PERIOD 12000
#define EXT0_JAM_PIN -1
#define EXT0_JAM_PULLUP 0
#define EXT1_X_OFFSET 0
#define EXT1_Y_OFFSET 0
#define EXT1_Z_OFFSET 0
#define EXT1_STEPS_PER_MM 370
#define EXT1_TEMPSENSOR_TYPE 1
#define EXT1_TEMPSENSOR_PIN THERMOCOUPLE_1_PIN
#define EXT1_HEATER_PIN HEATER_2_PIN
#define EXT1_STEP_PIN ORIG_E1_STEP_PIN
#define EXT1_DIR_PIN ORIG_E1_DIR_PIN
#define EXT1_INVERSE 0
#define EXT1_ENABLE_PIN E1_ENABLE_PIN
#define EXT1_ENABLE_ON 0
#define EXT1_MAX_FEEDRATE 50
#define EXT1_MAX_START_FEEDRATE 20
#define EXT1_MAX_ACCELERATION 5000
#define EXT1_HEAT_MANAGER 3
#define EXT1_WATCHPERIOD 1
#define EXT1_PID_INTEGRAL_DRIVE_MAX 230
#define EXT1_PID_INTEGRAL_DRIVE_MIN 40
#define EXT1_PID_PGAIN_OR_DEAD_TIME 7
#define EXT1_PID_I 2
#define EXT1_PID_D 40
#define EXT1_PID_MAX 255
#define EXT1_ADVANCE_K 0
#define EXT1_ADVANCE_L 0
#define EXT1_ADVANCE_BACKLASH_STEPS 0
#define EXT1_WAIT_RETRACT_TEMP 150
#define EXT1_WAIT_RETRACT_UNITS 0
#define EXT1_SELECT_COMMANDS ""
#define EXT1_DESELECT_COMMANDS ""
#define EXT1_EXTRUDER_COOLER_PIN -1
#define EXT1_EXTRUDER_COOLER_SPEED 255
#define EXT1_DECOUPLE_TEST_PERIOD 12000
#define EXT1_JAM_PIN -1
#define EXT1_JAM_PULLUP 0

#define FEATURE_RETRACTION 1
#define AUTORETRACT_ENABLED 0
#define RETRACTION_LENGTH 3
#define RETRACTION_LONG_LENGTH 13
#define RETRACTION_SPEED 40
#define RETRACTION_Z_LIFT 0
#define RETRACTION_UNDO_EXTRA_LENGTH 0
#define RETRACTION_UNDO_EXTRA_LONG_LENGTH 0
#define RETRACTION_UNDO_SPEED 20
#define FILAMENTCHANGE_X_POS 0
#define FILAMENTCHANGE_Y_POS 0
#define FILAMENTCHANGE_Z_ADD  2
#define FILAMENTCHANGE_REHOME 1
#define FILAMENTCHANGE_SHORTRETRACT 5
#define FILAMENTCHANGE_LONGRETRACT 50
#define JAM_STEPS 220
#define JAM_SLOWDOWN_STEPS 320
#define JAM_SLOWDOWN_TO 70
#define JAM_ERROR_STEPS 500
#define JAM_MIN_STEPS 10
#define JAM_ACTION 1

#define RETRACT_DURING_HEATUP true
#define PID_CONTROL_RANGE 20
#define SKIP_M109_IF_WITHIN 2
#define SCALE_PID_TO_MAX 1
#define TEMP_HYSTERESIS 0
#define EXTRUDE_MAXLENGTH 160
#define NUM_TEMPS_USERTHERMISTOR0 0
#define USER_THERMISTORTABLE0 {}
#define NUM_TEMPS_USERTHERMISTOR1 0
#define USER_THERMISTORTABLE1 {}
#define NUM_TEMPS_USERTHERMISTOR2 0
#define USER_THERMISTORTABLE2 {}
#define GENERIC_THERM_VREF 5
#define GENERIC_THERM_NUM_ENTRIES 33
#define HEATER_PWM_SPEED 0

// ############# Heated bed configuration ########################

#define HAVE_HEATED_BED 1
#define HEATED_BED_MAX_TEMP 120
#define SKIP_M190_IF_WITHIN 3
#define HEATED_BED_SENSOR_TYPE 1
#define HEATED_BED_SENSOR_PIN TEMP_1_PIN
#define HEATED_BED_HEATER_PIN HEATER_1_PIN
#define HEATED_BED_SET_INTERVAL 5000
#define HEATED_BED_HEAT_MANAGER 3
#define HEATED_BED_PID_INTEGRAL_DRIVE_MAX 255
#define HEATED_BED_PID_INTEGRAL_DRIVE_MIN 80
#define HEATED_BED_PID_PGAIN_OR_DEAD_TIME   196
#define HEATED_BED_PID_IGAIN   33
#define HEATED_BED_PID_DGAIN 290
#define HEATED_BED_PID_MAX 255
#define HEATED_BED_DECOUPLE_TEST_PERIOD 300000
#define MIN_EXTRUDER_TEMP 150
#define MAXTEMP 275
#define MIN_DEFECT_TEMPERATURE -10
#define MAX_DEFECT_TEMPERATURE 290

// ################ Endstop configuration #####################

#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_X_MIN true
#define ENDSTOP_X_MIN_INVERTING true
#define MIN_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_X true
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Y_MIN true
#define ENDSTOP_Y_MIN_INVERTING true
#define MIN_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Y true
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Z_MIN true
#define ENDSTOP_Z_MIN_INVERTING true
#define MIN_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Z true
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_X_MAX true
#define ENDSTOP_X_MAX_INVERTING false
#define MAX_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_X false
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Y_MAX true
#define ENDSTOP_Y_MAX_INVERTING false
#define MAX_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Y false
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Z_MAX true
#define ENDSTOP_Z_MAX_INVERTING false
#define MAX_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Z false
#define max_software_endstop_r true

#define min_software_endstop_x false
#define min_software_endstop_y false
#define min_software_endstop_z false
#define max_software_endstop_x true
#define max_software_endstop_y true
#define max_software_endstop_z true
#define ENDSTOP_X_BACK_MOVE 5
#define ENDSTOP_Y_BACK_MOVE 5
#define ENDSTOP_Z_BACK_MOVE 2
#define ENDSTOP_X_RETEST_REDUCTION_FACTOR 3
#define ENDSTOP_Y_RETEST_REDUCTION_FACTOR 3
#define ENDSTOP_Z_RETEST_REDUCTION_FACTOR 3
#define ENDSTOP_X_BACK_ON_HOME 1
#define ENDSTOP_Y_BACK_ON_HOME 1
#define ENDSTOP_Z_BACK_ON_HOME 0
#define ALWAYS_CHECK_ENDSTOPS 1

// ################# XYZ movements ###################

#define X_ENABLE_ON 1
#define Y_ENABLE_ON 1
#define Z_ENABLE_ON 1
#define DISABLE_X 0
#define DISABLE_Y 0
#define DISABLE_Z 0
#define DISABLE_E 0
#define INVERT_X_DIR 0
#define INVERT_Y_DIR 0
#define INVERT_Z_DIR 0
#define X_HOME_DIR -1
#define Y_HOME_DIR -1
#define Z_HOME_DIR -1
#define X_MAX_LENGTH 200
#define Y_MAX_LENGTH 200
#define Z_MAX_LENGTH 120
#define X_MIN_POS 0
#define Y_MIN_POS 0
#define Z_MIN_POS 0
#define DISTORTION_CORRECTION 0
#define DISTORTION_CORRECTION_POINTS 5
#define DISTORTION_CORRECTION_R 100
#define DISTORTION_PERMANENT 1
#define DISTORTION_UPDATE_FREQUENCY 15
#define DISTORTION_START_DEGRADE 0.5
#define DISTORTION_END_HEIGHT 1
#define DISTORTION_EXTRAPOLATE_CORNERS 0

// ##########################################################################################
// ##                           Movement settings                                          ##
// ##########################################################################################

#define FEATURE_BABYSTEPPING 1
#define BABYSTEP_MULTIPLICATOR 1

#define DELTA_SEGMENTS_PER_SECOND_PRINT 180 // Move accurate setting for print moves
#define DELTA_SEGMENTS_PER_SECOND_MOVE 70 // Less accurate setting for other moves
#define EXACT_DELTA_MOVES 1

// Delta settings
#define DELTA_HOME_ON_POWER 0

#define DELTASEGMENTS_PER_PRINTLINE 24
#define STEPPER_INACTIVE_TIME 360L
#define MAX_INACTIVE_TIME 0L
#define MAX_FEEDRATE_X 200
#define MAX_FEEDRATE_Y 200
#define MAX_FEEDRATE_Z 2
#define HOMING_FEEDRATE_X 40
#define HOMING_FEEDRATE_Y 40
#define HOMING_FEEDRATE_Z 2
#define HOMING_ORDER HOME_ORDER_ZXY
#define ZHOME_MIN_TEMPERATURE 0
#define ZHOME_HEAT_ALL 1
#define ZHOME_HEAT_HEIGHT 20
#define ZHOME_X_POS 999999
#define ZHOME_Y_POS 999999
#define ENABLE_BACKLASH_COMPENSATION 0
#define X_BACKLASH 0
#define Y_BACKLASH 0
#define Z_BACKLASH 0
#define RAMP_ACCELERATION 1
#define STEPPER_HIGH_DELAY 0
#define DIRECTION_DELAY 0
#define STEP_DOUBLER_FREQUENCY 12000
#define ALLOW_QUADSTEPPING 1
#define DOUBLE_STEP_DELAY 0 // time in microseconds
#define MAX_ACCELERATION_UNITS_PER_SQ_SECOND_X 1000
#define MAX_ACCELERATION_UNITS_PER_SQ_SECOND_Y 1000
#define MAX_ACCELERATION_UNITS_PER_SQ_SECOND_Z 100
#define MAX_TRAVEL_ACCELERATION_UNITS_PER_SQ_SECOND_X 1000
#define MAX_TRAVEL_ACCELERATION_UNITS_PER_SQ_SECOND_Y 1000
#define MAX_TRAVEL_ACCELERATION_UNITS_PER_SQ_SECOND_Z 100
#define MAX_JERK 20
#define MAX_ZJERK 0.3
#define PRINTLINE_CACHE_SIZE 16
#define MOVE_CACHE_LOW 10
#define LOW_TICKS_PER_MOVE 250000
#define FEATURE_TWO_XSTEPPER 0
#define X2_STEP_PIN   ORIG_E1_STEP_PIN
#define X2_DIR_PIN    ORIG_E1_DIR_PIN
#define X2_ENABLE_PIN E1_ENABLE_PIN
#define FEATURE_TWO_YSTEPPER 0
#define Y2_STEP_PIN   ORIG_E1_STEP_PIN
#define Y2_DIR_PIN    ORIG_E1_DIR_PIN
#define Y2_ENABLE_PIN E1_ENABLE_PIN
#define FEATURE_TWO_ZSTEPPER 0
#define Z2_STEP_PIN   ORIG_E1_STEP_PIN
#define Z2_DIR_PIN    ORIG_E1_DIR_PIN
#define Z2_ENABLE_PIN E1_ENABLE_PIN
#define FEATURE_DITTO_PRINTING 0
#define USE_ADVANCE 0
#define ENABLE_QUADRATIC_ADVANCE 0


// ################# Misc. settings ##################

#define BAUDRATE 250000
#define ENABLE_POWER_ON_STARTUP 1
#define POWER_INVERTING 0
#define KILL_METHOD 1
#define ACK_WITH_LINENUMBER 1
#define WAITING_IDENTIFIER "wait"
#define ECHO_ON_EXECUTE 1
#define EEPROM_MODE 1
#define PS_ON_PIN ORIG_PS_ON_PIN

/* ======== Servos =======
Control the servos with
M340 P<servoId> S<pulseInUS>   / ServoID = 0..3  pulseInUs = 500..2500
Servos are controlled by a pulse width normally between 500 and 2500 with 1500ms in center position. 0 turns servo off.
WARNING: Servos can draw a considerable amount of current. Make sure your system can handle this or you may risk your hardware!
*/
#define FEATURE_SERVO 0
#define SERVO0_PIN 11
#define SERVO1_PIN -1
#define SERVO2_PIN -1
#define SERVO3_PIN -1
#define SERVO0_NEUTRAL_POS  -1
#define SERVO1_NEUTRAL_POS  -1
#define SERVO2_NEUTRAL_POS  -1
#define SERVO3_NEUTRAL_POS  -1
#define UI_SERVO_CONTROL 0
#define FAN_KICKSTART_TIME  200

        #define FEATURE_WATCHDOG 1

// #################### Z-Probing #####################

#define Z_PROBE_Z_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_Z_OFFSET_MODE 0
#define UI_BED_COATING 1
#define FEATURE_Z_PROBE 0
#define Z_PROBE_BED_DISTANCE 10
#define Z_PROBE_PIN -1
#define Z_PROBE_PULLUP 0
#define Z_PROBE_ON_HIGH 0
#define Z_PROBE_X_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_Y_OFFSET 0
#define Z_PROBE_WAIT_BEFORE_TEST 0
#define Z_PROBE_SPEED 2
#define Z_PROBE_XY_SPEED 150
#define Z_PROBE_SWITCHING_DISTANCE 1
#define Z_PROBE_REPETITIONS 1
#define Z_PROBE_HEIGHT 40
#define Z_PROBE_START_SCRIPT ""
#define Z_PROBE_FINISHED_SCRIPT ""
#define FEATURE_AUTOLEVEL 1
#define Z_PROBE_X1 20
#define Z_PROBE_Y1 20
#define Z_PROBE_X2 160
#define Z_PROBE_Y2 20
#define Z_PROBE_X3 100
#define Z_PROBE_Y3 160
#define FEATURE_AXISCOMP 0
#define AXISCOMP_TANXY 0
#define AXISCOMP_TANYZ 0
#define AXISCOMP_TANXZ 0

#ifndef SDSUPPORT  // Some boards have sd support on board. These define the values already in pins.h
#define SDSUPPORT 0
#define SDCARDDETECT -1
#define SDCARDDETECTINVERTED 0
#endif
#define SD_EXTENDED_DIR 1 /** Show extended directory including file length. Don't use this with Pronterface! */
#define SD_RUN_ON_STOP ""
#define SD_STOP_HEATER_AND_MOTORS_ON_STOP 1
#define ARC_SUPPORT 1
#define FEATURE_MEMORY_POSITION 1
#define FEATURE_CHECKSUM_FORCED 0
#define FEATURE_FAN_CONTROL 1
#define FEATURE_CONTROLLER 5
#define UI_LANGUAGE 0
#define UI_PRINTER_NAME "Ceaser"
#define UI_PRINTER_COMPANY "3d Prints"
#define UI_PAGES_DURATION 4000
#define UI_ANIMATION 0
#define UI_SPEEDDEPENDENT_POSITIONING 0
#define UI_DISABLE_AUTO_PAGESWITCH 1
#define UI_AUTORETURN_TO_MENU_AFTER 30000
#define FEATURE_UI_KEYS 0
#define UI_ENCODER_SPEED 1
#define UI_REVERSE_ENCODER 0
#define UI_KEY_BOUNCETIME 10
#define UI_KEY_FIRST_REPEAT 500
#define UI_KEY_REDUCE_REPEAT 50
#define UI_KEY_MIN_REPEAT 50
#define FEATURE_BEEPER 0
#define CASE_LIGHTS_PIN -1
#define CASE_LIGHT_DEFAULT_ON 1
#define UI_START_SCREEN_DELAY 1000
#define UI_DYNAMIC_ENCODER_SPEED 1
        /**
Beeper sound definitions for short beeps during key actions
and longer beeps for important actions.
Parameter is delay in microseconds and the secons is the number of repetitions.
Values must be in range 1..255
*/
#define BEEPER_SHORT_SEQUENCE 2,2
#define BEEPER_LONG_SEQUENCE 8,8
#define UI_SET_PRESET_HEATED_BED_TEMP_PLA 60
#define UI_SET_PRESET_EXTRUDER_TEMP_PLA   190
#define UI_SET_PRESET_HEATED_BED_TEMP_ABS 110
#define UI_SET_PRESET_EXTRUDER_TEMP_ABS   240
#define UI_SET_MIN_HEATED_BED_TEMP  30
#define UI_SET_MAX_HEATED_BED_TEMP 120
#define UI_SET_MIN_EXTRUDER_TEMP   170
#define UI_SET_MAX_EXTRUDER_TEMP   260
#define UI_SET_EXTRUDER_FEEDRATE 2
#define UI_SET_EXTRUDER_RETRACT_DISTANCE 3


#define NUM_MOTOR_DRIVERS 0



#endif

/* Below you will find the configuration string, that created this Configuration.h

========== Start configuration string ==========
{
    "editMode": 2,
    "processor": 0,
    "baudrate": 250000,
    "bluetoothSerial": -1,
    "bluetoothBaudrate": 115200,
    "xStepsPerMM": 80,
    "yStepsPerMM": 80,
    "zStepsPerMM": 80,
    "xInvert": 0,
    "xInvertEnable": 0,
    "eepromMode": 1,
    "yInvert": 0,
    "yInvertEnable": 0,
    "zInvert": 0,
    "zInvertEnable": 0,
    "extruder": [
        {
            "id": 0,
            "heatManager": 3,
            "pidDriveMin": 40,
            "pidDriveMax": 230,
            "pidMax": 255,
            "sensorType": 1,
            "sensorPin": "THERMOCOUPLE_0_PIN",
            "heaterPin": "HEATER_0_PIN",
            "maxFeedrate": 50,
            "startFeedrate": 20,
            "invert": "0",
            "invertEnable": "0",
            "acceleration": 5000,
            "watchPeriod": 1,
            "pidP": 7,
            "pidI": 2,
            "pidD": 40,
            "advanceK": 0,
            "advanceL": 0,
            "waitRetractTemp": 150,
            "waitRetractUnits": 0,
            "waitRetract": 0,
            "stepsPerMM": 370,
            "coolerPin": -1,
            "coolerSpeed": 255,
            "selectCommands": "",
            "deselectCommands": "",
            "xOffset": 0,
            "yOffset": 0,
            "zOffset": 0,
            "xOffsetSteps": 0,
            "yOffsetSteps": 0,
            "zOffsetSteps": 0,
            "stepper": {
                "name": "Extruder 0",
                "step": "ORIG_E0_STEP_PIN",
                "dir": "ORIG_E0_DIR_PIN",
                "enable": "E0_ENABLE_PIN"
            },
            "advanceBacklashSteps": 0,
            "decoupleTestPeriod": 12,
            "jamPin": -1,
            "jamPullup": "0"
        },
        {
            "id": 1,
            "heatManager": 3,
            "pidDriveMin": 40,
            "pidDriveMax": 230,
            "pidMax": 255,
            "sensorType": 1,
            "sensorPin": "THERMOCOUPLE_1_PIN",
            "heaterPin": "HEATER_2_PIN",
            "maxFeedrate": 50,
            "startFeedrate": 20,
            "invert": "0",
            "invertEnable": "0",
            "acceleration": 5000,
            "watchPeriod": 1,
            "pidP": 7,
            "pidI": 2,
            "pidD": 40,
            "advanceK": 0,
            "advanceL": 0,
            "waitRetractTemp": 150,
            "waitRetractUnits": 0,
            "waitRetract": 0,
            "stepsPerMM": 370,
            "coolerPin": -1,
            "coolerSpeed": 255,
            "selectCommands": "",
            "deselectCommands": "",
            "xOffset": 0,
            "yOffset": 0,
            "zOffset": 0,
            "xOffsetSteps": 0,
            "yOffsetSteps": 0,
            "zOffsetSteps": 0,
            "stepper": {
                "name": "Extruder 1",
                "step": "ORIG_E1_STEP_PIN",
                "dir": "ORIG_E1_DIR_PIN",
                "enable": "E1_ENABLE_PIN"
            },
            "advanceBacklashSteps": 0,
            "decoupleTestPeriod": 12,
            "jamPin": -1,
            "jamPullup": "0"
        }
    ],
    "uiLanguage": 0,
    "uiController": 0,
    "xMinEndstop": 1,
    "yMinEndstop": 1,
    "zMinEndstop": 1,
    "xMaxEndstop": 0,
    "yMaxEndstop": 0,
    "zMaxEndstop": 0,
    "motherboard": 35,
    "driveSystem": 0,
    "xMaxSpeed": 200,
    "xHomingSpeed": 40,
    "xTravelAcceleration": 1000,
    "xPrintAcceleration": 1000,
    "yMaxSpeed": 200,
    "yHomingSpeed": 40,
    "yTravelAcceleration": 1000,
    "yPrintAcceleration": 1000,
    "zMaxSpeed": 2,
    "zHomingSpeed": 2,
    "zTravelAcceleration": 100,
    "zPrintAcceleration": 100,
    "xMotor": {
        "name": "X motor",
        "step": "ORIG_X_STEP_PIN",
        "dir": "ORIG_X_DIR_PIN",
        "enable": "ORIG_X_ENABLE_PIN"
    },
    "yMotor": {
        "name": "Y motor",
        "step": "ORIG_Y_STEP_PIN",
        "dir": "ORIG_Y_DIR_PIN",
        "enable": "ORIG_Y_ENABLE_PIN"
    },
    "zMotor": {
        "name": "Z motor",
        "step": "ORIG_Z_STEP_PIN",
        "dir": "ORIG_Z_DIR_PIN",
        "enable": "ORIG_Z_ENABLE_PIN"
    },
    "enableBacklash": "0",
    "backlashX": 0,
    "backlashY": 0,
    "backlashZ": 0,
    "stepperInactiveTime": 360,
    "maxInactiveTime": 0,
    "xMinPos": 0,
    "yMinPos": 0,
    "zMinPos": 0,
    "xLength": 200,
    "yLength": 200,
    "zLength": 120,
    "alwaysCheckEndstops": "1",
    "disableX": "0",
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========== End configuration string ==========

*/

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

You said the extruders "do not heat" is that correct?  What if any temp readings are you getting reported in RH?
The motors not moving sounds like a simple VREF issue.  Turn up the POT on the drivers and have a search for VREF I've explained in detail how to dial them in many times.  If you can't find the info you need just let me know.
Post some pics of your build so we can admire your handy work.

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Thanks to all for your contributions

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Thank You wardjr, you make me feel really good...

wardjr: What if any temp readings are you getting reported in RH?
EMC2 Robo: When I raise temp. using host or LCD Display nothing happens. The RH reads 0 (zero)

wardjr: Turn up the POT on the drivers and have a search for VREF
EMC2 Robo: How do I turn up POT on the drivers? What is VREF?

Thank you for replying to my call for help:-)

4 (edited by grob 2015-08-24 06:10:23)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

You're audacious starting out with a build like this! Good board choice though, you haven't skimped which is refreshing - I'm not so familiar with it, but general concepts for 8-bit boards should apply.

For the stepper motors - buzzing sounds like the current is wrong.

First - triple check the motor connection wiring (the order of the four colours) is correct. Check the coils in each motor with a voltmeter - you should measure a small resistance across a pair of wires that belong to one working coil. Check that the wire pair for a coil lines up with what's shown on the wiring diagram (some motors can have different colour order to others!).

As wardjr suggests (he's too quick for me!): have you adjusted the trimpots on the motor driver boards? You probably want to run the drivers at about 75% of the rated current of the stepper motor (from your stepper motor datasheet), use the datasheet from the driver board (panucatt SD8825's?: current(A) = Vref(V) x 2) to work out what voltage (Vref) you need to set to get that current. Start there and they should spin, probably won't overheat. Then you can tune finely later. smile

For the extruders - only difference I can see with the bed (which is working) is that they are using thermocouples (instead of thermistors) - make sure you know your firmware configuration is set up correctly for whatever way the azteeg x3pro handles thermocouple inputs (I'm not familiar with this board, or repetier firmware, so can't give much more specific advice). Also thermocouples have polarity, so make sure you've connected these around the right way. If you can get a sensible temperature reading from the hotend at more than room temp (e.g. try forcing the HE to heat by temporarily connecting 12V directly across the heater) then you're ok - if they're backwards, room temp will look fine, but when you try to heat the temperature reading will drop, and trigger MINTEMP.

EDIT: if you're reading zero, I'm pretty sure something's wrong in the config. It might be trying to read a thermistor input from an unconnected pin somewhere.

Keep us updated on how you go, you'll figure these out with some experimentation and leave the process understanding more about your printer! smile

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Wow this is wonderful response "grob", I am very grateful. I will try all these methods and reply back with an update.

I will also upload all printer specs once it is up and working. It is my first build but I did not shy away from great quality. It has a pretty big print bed (L-16inxW-16inxH-22in). As I mentioned Dual Extruders, and the goal of this machine is to have a universal 3d machine. I eventually want to add 1 more stepper to power an additional extruder which will actually be a rotary drill bit for sanding and engraving... but for now I need to better understand the firmware.

Thanks again for response "grob" I will be updating soon.

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

What grob said smile

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3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

7 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-08-25 04:16:59)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello Guys,

Here is the update from "grob" advice;

I had to re-due the motor connection wires. You were correct about the color of wires being different from motor to board.

I have adjusted POT on the Drivers and have tested and adjusted each driver to ensure the are running on same rated current about 70-75% of total power.

I am able to move the heated bed- Y motor ( I AM SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!!!), and the Z Motor (but Z motor was moving really-really slow) and X motor does not respond to any commands, it does not even vibrate anymore. But this is great progress:-)

Update on Heating Extruders:
I am still not able to get the extruders heated up. I have attached a few pics of the wiring on board.
http://soliforum.com/i/?ttiKqvt.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?wYZdIbx.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?1UKMVPZ.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?aXDISzn.jpg

Thanks you again for your input, it most invaluable.

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

I may beat grob to the answer most of the time but his thorough responses are invaluable.
Glad you're making progress. Z moving slow is most likely just steps/mm needing to be calibrated.  With X check your connections and endstops and if all is correct dial up the VREF to see if it's just set too low.  The extruders not heating is most likely a firmware thing since you have thermocouples.  I have no experience with RH firmware or thermal couples.  It seems as though the firmware is seeing an open circuit for the thermistors.

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3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

9 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-09-12 19:16:59)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Whoa, thanks a million.

"grob" and "wardjr" I am extremely grateful for your responses.

Z moving to slow:

wardjr: Z moving slow is most likely just steps/mm needing to be calibrated.
EMC2 Robo: Got it, I will adjust.

X Motor:

wardjr: X check your connections and endstops and if all is correct dial up the VREF to see if it's just set too low.
EMC2 Robo: I found something in configuration.h file which I changed from 1 to 0 and it started to work.

#define X_ENABLE_ON 0
#define Y_ENABLE_ON 0
#define Z_ENABLE_ON 0
#define DISABLE_X 1
#define DISABLE_Y 1
#define DISABLE_Z 1
#define DISABLE_E 0

Extruders Not Heating:

wardjr: It seems as though the firmware is seeing an open circuit for the thermistors.
EMC2 Robo: I will check this and update... do you know what I am looking for in firmware?

Thank you again "wardjr":-)

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Look into the line that says "DEFINE temp sensor" where 1 is listed as the type.  I don't know but would guess that is the incorrect selection.

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Thanks to all for your contributions

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

+1. what thermistors are you using?

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

It looks like he's using K-type thermocouples and running them to a thermistor input, which isn't going to work too well. smile

13 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-08-25 21:27:05)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello everyone,

Thermocouples:

That is correct... I am using K-type thermocouples and running them to a thermistor input.

"elmoret" Why do you think

using K-type thermocouples and running them to a thermistor input

will not work well?

I appreciate any feedback:-)

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Because thermistors produce varying resistance, and thermocouples produce varying voltage. You need to use a thermocouple amplifier, and run them to an analog pin (not a thermistor pin which has a balancing resistor tied to +5v).

This is a thermocouple amplifier:

http://www.filastruder.com/collections/ … board-v1-0

15 (edited by grob 2015-08-26 03:40:14)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Quick look at the Azteeg X3 Pro wiring diagram shows it has two thermocouple inputs built in - EMC2, I can see you've got stuff connected to these terminals from your photos, but please ensure you're using those inputs for the two hot-end thermocouples.

(Tim, I don't think he'll need an external amplifier for this one.)

I guess those big yellow connectors etc. are kind of not necessary, and depending on what wire is behind them (looks like a mix of shielded TC cable and regular hookup cable - depending on the relative temperature of the TC amp on the X3pro board and the junction between the normal cable and the TC cable it may add some error) - I'd personally just cut them off and terminate the TC wire directly into the screw terminals on the board, but up to you! smile

I found this information about configuring them for Marlin, but it tells you the chip they're using and the pins so you might be able to work out how to talk to that with Repetier firmware: http://panucattdevices.freshdesk.com/su … and-x3-pro

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Omega as always have a great primer on thermocouples if anyone's curious:
http://www.omega.com/temperature/z/pdf/z021-032.pdf

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17 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-09-12 19:17:18)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Wow, this is AWESOME... you guys have given me so much valuable information, I am overwhelmed with joy. THANK YOU ALL!!!

Ok, so update;

XYZ Stepper motors

All are up and running. I took your advice "grob" "wardjr"and checking wires ensuring they are in the correct pins, I also have my configuration.h file set correctly (not precise, but motors are moving in the direction I want. I also had to fix some stuff in the pins.h file. I have all drivers working on same current (VREF adjusted to around 75% of driver max capacity).

Now I am fine tuning.

Thermocouples still working progress, I will try what "grob" has just posted (thank you "grob")

QUESTION:

Why does my Z motor run significantly slower than my XY motors?

They are set the same: Example of configuration.h:

#define XAXIS_STEPS_PER_MM 80
#define YAXIS_STEPS_PER_MM 80
#define ZAXIS_STEPS_PER_MM 80

How do I set Homing for XYZ motors? How do I save where my XYZ motors go when I home them? Is it in configuration.h, eprom.h, or any other file?

Thank you again and I look forward to your responses... have a great day :-)

18 (edited by grob 2015-08-26 06:56:01)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Probably you've set the max feedrate in z to be much lower than x/y (which is normal). Even though you might be asking for a fast movement in each axis, it will limit to the max feedrate.

In your config dump from the OP:

#define MAX_FEEDRATE_X 200
#define MAX_FEEDRATE_Y 200
#define MAX_FEEDRATE_Z 2

Note Z is 2 (mm/sec I presume - sorry, not familiar with Repetier Firmware!). I would guess this is limiting your z speed?

For steps-per-mm, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to be 80 for everything -  How have you calculated these? Is this for 20T GT2 pulleys, 200-step motor and 16x microstepping (for which 80 is correct) on every axis?

What are your axes: x/y are belts, z is screw threads (or also belts?).

For belts: steps_per_mm = steps_per_rev * microstepping / pitch / pulley_tooth_count
where:
* steps_per_rev is 200 for a 1.8 degree stepper (most common)
* pitch is in mm: for MXL belt is 2.032mm or for GT2 2.000mm
* microstepping is 16 or 32 normally (depends on the jumper settings for your drivers, and the driver IC!)

For screws: steps_per_mm = steps_per_rev * microstepping / thread_pitch
as above, and where:
* thread_pitch is in mm (typically 0.8mm for M5, 1.0 for M6, 1.25 for M8, 25.4/18 for 5/16" UNC)

For homing, have a play with these:

#define X_HOME_DIR -1
#define Y_HOME_DIR -1
#define Z_HOME_DIR -1

And these:

#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_X_MIN true
#define ENDSTOP_X_MIN_INVERTING true
#define MIN_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_X true
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Y_MIN true
#define ENDSTOP_Y_MIN_INVERTING true
#define MIN_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Y true
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Z_MIN true
#define ENDSTOP_Z_MIN_INVERTING true
#define MIN_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Z true
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_X_MAX true
#define ENDSTOP_X_MAX_INVERTING false
#define MAX_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_X false
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Y_MAX true
#define ENDSTOP_Y_MAX_INVERTING false
#define MAX_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Y false
#define ENDSTOP_PULLUP_Z_MAX true
#define ENDSTOP_Z_MAX_INVERTING false
#define MAX_HARDWARE_ENDSTOP_Z false

You want the machine to always home to your endstops, which you have configured currently as MIN for X, Y and Z. The direction I'm not sure but I'd guess was correct. Is it not homing right now?

SD3. Mk2b + glass, heated enclosure, GT2 belts, direct drive y shaft, linear bearings, bowden-feed E3D v5 w/ 0.9° stepper
Smoothieboard via Octoprint on RPi

19 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-08-26 17:10:44)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello "grob",

In response to your question;

For steps-per-mm, I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to be 80 for everything -  How have you calculated these? Is this for 20T GT2 pulleys, 200-step motor and 16x microstepping (for which 80 is correct) on every axis?

EMC2 Robo:
I have not calculated precisely, this was just an estimate. You are correct on the Pulleys (20T GT2 pulleys), and my X motor (http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product … ordID=8319), YZ motor (http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product … ordID=7850)

grob:

"grob" What are your axes: x/y are belts, z is screw threads (or also belts?).

EMC2 Robo:
z is screw threads

I will play around with the rest and update when I have completed my tests.

Thank you very much "grob" for passing along your knowledge.

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Use this tool to calculate steps per mm for X, Y and Z. http://prusaprinters.org/calculator/

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello everyone,

I am posting pictures of my build so you can have a better idea of what I am currently working on.

This is my first build, I am no expert, so all feedback is appreciated.

http://soliforum.com/i/?KPANfnZ.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?ilP84wq.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?HEEWSgt.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?cNlnXaW.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?sKgx8SJ.jpg
http://soliforum.com/i/?ilDP0Ek.jpg

3d Printer specifications:

2 Extruders
Heated bed
Azteeg X3 Pro board
Viki LCD Screen
20T GT2 pulleys
X Motor (http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product … ordID=8319)
YZ Motor (http://www.kysanelectronics.com/Product … ordID=7850)
12Volt 25Amp power supply

I still have a lot more work ahead of me, but for now I just want begin my first print.

If anyone has a similar setup, I am interested in your configuration files.

Thank you for all your feedback.

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello jagowilson,

Thank you for that link... but unfortunately the link is not working, seems to be broken.

Use this tool to calculate steps per mm for X, Y and Z. http://prusaprinters.org/calculator/

But, I will google what you posted, thanks:-)

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Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

I didn't realize that Azteeg board has onboard thermocouple amplifiers, so you can just configure firmware to use them. Nice!

24 (edited by EMC2 Robo 2015-09-12 19:00:06)

Re: 3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?

Hello Everyone,

This is a final update on "3d Stepper Motors NOT Moving, just vibrating?".

I would like to first give a special THANK YOU to all members for your input, it was greatly appreciated.

A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO wardjr (http://www.soliforum.com/user/2291/), grob (http://www.soliforum.com/user/4515/), elmeret (http://www.soliforum.com/user/221/) without your help I would have not made it this far. Your feedback was invaluable, and I am indebted to you three... Thank you a million times over!!! :-)

Update:

1. XYZ Stepper motors - Working perfectly
2. Heated Bed - Working (Bed heats and I can control, but not showing on Viki screen)
3. Ext1 and Ext2 - (Thermocouples working and I can control, but not showing on Viki screen)
4. Ext1 and Ext2 Stepper motor - NOT Working (I cannot get the motors to spin, I have played with configuration files for over 3 weeks, no success YET...) Please reply to this topic here http://www.soliforum.com/post/105276/#p105276

I have posted new topics for all the remaining issues, if you would like to help you can reply on new created help topics.

Thank again to all the members for your help. Have a great day:-)