Solidoodle readily provides warranty/return information. This forum is not a venue for discussing legal action. Therefore, this topic needs no further discussion.

I wished to create a thread so that people who bought this press under the advertised standard of "plug and play" who were not satisfied with there printer could know where they stood legally about receiving full refunds.

if someone could explain why this is so offensive that they feel the need to closse down any discussion of this matter that would be great.

my personal opinion is that this needs to be a period of tough love with Solidoodle. If the user community continuous to try and clear up there messes were not going to be doing SD any favours as a business to learn to better manage themselves.

Many of the users just want to get a refund (and buy another printer)... They consider getting a refund is a solution to their problem. So discussing ways to do that is finding a solution to their problem...
Like this guy:

Nobody has suggested anything like suing a company. I have suggested against suing as it just doesn't work in the "cesspool" thread (btw, that's a hateful remark to OneMoreCast and the rest posting there).
Chargebacks/refunds is definitely not something like a lawsuit.
Nor is a complaint letter to the BBB which is there to make sure businesses keep playing fair and will help the community by making the company improve.
Others like n2ri have commented that at this point it's possible they will get sued by somebody, that is not suggesting to do that though.
So who are you talking to?

Banning users is again, going to distance them more from Solidoodle which is what you don't want.

There is no need for this thread. If you want a refund, you have 30 days after the shipping date to do so:

http://www.solidoodle.com/warranty

Otherwise, keep the whining and complaining to the following cesspool of a thread:

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/9158/sol … are-yours/

It is absolutely fine to have constructive criticism - that is criticism that results in something positive, such as "this sucks, but here's how I made it better". Non-Constructive criticism is not part of the spirit of Soliforum, and is therefore against the forum rules. Many users in this thread would be well served to re-read the forum rules:

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2041/sol … uidelines/

and reevaluate whether their posting is creating a positive, meaningful contribution to the community.

+1

I think some of the users in this forum are creating a disruption for other users who are trying to get the most out of their new printer. Banning users who contribute nothing to the community is no problem for me. Expanding upon what elmoret said, I would much rather hear from the people who are finding a solution to a problem rather than just suggesting things like suing the company.

When I see a user on here who does nothing but bash and complain about a new printer (Press) or company (SD) it seems to do nothing but hurt the community as a whole. As elmoret said..."Non-Constructive criticism is not part of the spirit of Soliforum".

^ This. If there are mods here this thread should be removed.

Not so fast...

Note "legal info" in the title of this thread.
The buyer's credit card issuer/bank can have chargeback dates longer than Solidoodle's warranty dates.
There can be state laws on consumer protection with imperative norms contradicting Solidoodle's warranty terms.
Another useful legal info can be the right of customers to send a complaint letter to Better Business Bureau, as I mentioned in another thread.
Just off the top of my head few things we haven't talked about yet which might be useful info on refunds and "legal info" for others.
IMO deleting/closing threads like this is just going to piss Solidoodle customers off and make sure they don't buy anything from this company for good.

Um, just saying, doesn't  hateful remark include calling someone's thread a "cesspool"?

http://www.solidoodle.com/warranty

Otherwise, keep the whining and complaining to the following cesspool of a thread:

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/9158/sol … are-yours/

It is absolutely fine to have constructive criticism - that is criticism that results in something positive, such as "this sucks, but here's how I made it better". Non-Constructive criticism is not part of the spirit of Soliforum, and is therefore against the forum rules. Many users in this thread would be well served to re-read the forum rules:

http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2041/sol … uidelines/

and reevaluate whether their posting is creating a positive, meaningful contribution to the community.

People need to fix the machine or go home.

Throwing the chargebacks and refund laws out the window, how about this: put them on eBay like omaha did for like $500? Still more than they payed for it but less than it costs now...
We've talked about this already in the other thread.

Like you said, it cost you "about the price of the machine in tools, parts, and time"... so how is it a good advice for others to do the same?

Some users have started calling people who complain about the new models "haters" but to me the opposite is puzzling that some users are trying to find an excuse for every mistake Solidoodle does.

As for Davinci, yeah I've read some people having issues with it, but overall seems to destroy SD from out of the box quality generally.

Just ordered a seemecnc Rostock Max , was that or a robo 3d printer, looks like a fun project.

Sold as a plug and play unit, it most deffinetly is not. As for refunds, I just listed mine on eBay. I Don't want anything todo with  solidoodle.

$500. Turning a profit I see
w.ebay. com/itm/Solidoodle-Press-3D-Printer-New-Design-Just-Released-Free-Shipping-/141544791388

i cant help but feel that there is a lot of customer blaming on this issue. if you were just a layperson browsing theverge and thought " oh wow plug n play 3d printing" you would be buying the product on the basis of the information that the company provides.

The purpose of this thread is for those users i just described . I will probably try and fix the issues i see and i already realise that im gonna have to redo the cable management and check the extruder over thoroughly. I am able to do this because i personally have that capabilty. Those i described do not.

For those people i think they 100% deserve a full refund

Apples and oranges. There is an opportunity for this to not sink SD, but they're going to have to effectively manage the problems users are facing, which really, are incredibly minor compared to the issues of many other machines in the market.