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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>What about splitting the difference and using an M5 rod with .50 pitch? McMaster has 1 meter lengths for $30.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheBaron]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-28T21:23:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>It made all my banding issues go completely away with one straightforward mod.... done.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>this !!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[saymo606]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.soliforum.com/user/456/</uri>
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			<updated>2013-08-28T06:40:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pirvan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Seriously?&nbsp; You used a M3 for your Z Screw?</p></blockquote></div><p>Absolutely.&nbsp; My original goal was to push the envelope, with the premise that going to as fine a thread as possible would be best at eliminating banding, an effect demonstrated previously on other platforms.&nbsp; &nbsp;I ordered a stainless steel M3 rod, half expecting to be too flexible, but I found it to be a lot stiffer than I thought and more than adequate for the job.&nbsp; In fact, since the bed on the Solidoodle is kept in alignment with the two solid Z rails, the problem with an M8 or the standard 5/16-18 rod is that they are *too* stiff, which magnifies any alignment or straightness issues, exacerbating banding.</p><p>There are a bunch of other threads where folks are using M5 or M3 z-rods with great success.&nbsp; I like the M3 because the thread finer (.5mm vs .8mm).&nbsp; It made all my banding issues go completely away with one straightforward mod.... done.</p><p><a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2154/fixing-banding-zwobble-with-fine-threaded-zrod/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2154/fix … aded-zrod/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tealvince]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-27T14:21:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>tealvince wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>TheBaron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah, I found a lot of Z axis mod stuff, but I couldn&#039;t find something that specifically said how to deal with the aluminum bed. Everything seemed to involve the old school wooden bed.</p></blockquote></div><p>If you have the equipment, one thing you could try would be to use a 5/16 brass bolt as an adapter.&nbsp; Just drill and tap a hole down the middle to accept the new rod.&nbsp; This is what I would have done for my M3 if it weren&#039;t late at night (with stores closed) when I did my mod.</p></blockquote></div><p> <strong><span style="color: RED">M3 ?!?!</span></strong>&nbsp; Seriously?&nbsp; You used a M3 for your Z Screw?</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;item=3171&amp;download=0" alt="http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&amp;amp;item=3171&amp;amp;download=0" /></span></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-27T02:58:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TheBaron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah, I found a lot of Z axis mod stuff, but I couldn&#039;t find something that specifically said how to deal with the aluminum bed. Everything seemed to involve the old school wooden bed.</p></blockquote></div><p>If you have the equipment, one thing you could try would be to use a 5/16 brass bolt as an adapter.&nbsp; Just drill and tap a hole down the middle to accept the new rod.&nbsp; This is what I would have done for my M3 if it weren&#039;t late at night (with stores closed) when I did my mod.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tealvince]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-26T16:41:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I found a lot of Z axis mod stuff, but I couldn&#039;t find something that specifically said how to deal with the aluminum bed. Everything seemed to involve the old school wooden bed.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheBaron]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-26T03:19:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>TheBaron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hey guys, I have been having some pretty significant Z banding lately and am looking at replacing my Z screw with either a much finer pitch (M3 or similar) or a proper ball screw if I can snag one from my boss for cheap enough. However, all the guides and tutorials for replacing the Z screw are built around the older Z carriage with the wooden platform. Mine is the metal one and the threaded nut seems to be a part of the assembly itself. I was wondering if anybody had any experience in changing the screw out on one of these aluminum jobbies.</p><p>Thanks!</p></blockquote></div><p>Aside from the PEM nut, the aluminium bed has the same procedures for removing it as the wooden bed. I think someone already posted a link to the PEM nut removal guide. The mounting holes around the Hole for the threaded rod are different so you will need to choose a replacement nut hugger accordingly. Adrian posted an M5 nut hugger for the aluminium bed. There is also the slopnut that has options for m5, m3, and the original 5/16&quot;.&nbsp; </p><p>On a side note, this probably didnt need its own thread. This topic has been discussed to exhaustion. I this what we do need is a sticky in the hacks and mods that lists all previous z-axis mods.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[2n2r5]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-26T02:22:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>M5 is 5mm, which means it&#039;s the same diameter as the motor shaft.&nbsp; </p><p>The original 5/16&quot; screw that comes with the SD is about 8mm in diameter, so I wouldn&#039;t go down to an M5.&nbsp; I would look for something a bit more substantial, like a M8</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pirvan]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-26T00:59:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, that&#039;s good info. I have been tuning a bit and found that getting my steps per mm on the extruder better has drastically improved my z banding issue, but it is still there. I happen to work by a large industrial park, so I can get M3 rods and the like locally without too much trouble. </p><p>In the meantime, I am trying the well nut trick. Printed this retainer plate: <a href="http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:100053">http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:100053</a> and picked up some 4-40x1/2&quot; socketed cap screws. Went together without too much trouble. Going to print a new test print and, if the difference is really noticeable (it has been from my smaller improvements) I will post pictures. Maybe I won&#039;t have to take this whole thing apart.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheBaron]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-26T00:09:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I changed mine to an M5 and after much hair pulling it is working well.&nbsp; I left the PEM nut in place as the M5 passes right through it with no problem.</p><p>I may change to an M3 rod in the future.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Shotline]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-25T20:42:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Baron, here is the link for a way to remove the nut on the aluminum platform ---&gt; <a href="http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2990/boss-nut-pem-nut-removal-the-easy-way-level-1-novice-consumer/">http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2990/bos … -consumer/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ronsii]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-25T18:38:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Replacing the Z screw with finer pitch on a SD3]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I have been having some pretty significant Z banding lately and am looking at replacing my Z screw with either a much finer pitch (M3 or similar) or a proper ball screw if I can snag one from my boss for cheap enough. However, all the guides and tutorials for replacing the Z screw are built around the older Z carriage with the wooden platform. Mine is the metal one and the threaded nut seems to be a part of the assembly itself. I was wondering if anybody had any experience in changing the screw out on one of these aluminum jobbies.</p><p>Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TheBaron]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-08-25T17:19:03Z</updated>
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