markulus wrote:I've pretty much given up on Solidoodle support. I've worked with lots of products and lots of new companies and I've never had such a terrible customer support experience as I have had with Solidoodle.
I sorry you've had a bad time. We try about our best.
markulus wrote:
About a month ago, my nozzle stopped extruding.
Sent an email to Solidoodle support. They went through the usual asking me if I've followed the directions for clearing a clog. Fine. I went through the process and confirmed that this is one of the apparently "rare" nozzle clogs.
Clogs are frustrating. There isn't much we can do to alleviate that. If you look, you will find customers on this forum having the same issues, and the same level of frustration. There isn't a one stop catch all solution for everyone. The wider industry is moving towards cheaper hot ends that can simply be tossed for this reason.
markulus wrote:
SD support "Joel" asked me my extruder and bed temps. I sent them in.
Then, 2 days later SD support "John" sent me an email IDENTICAL to "Joel"'s email, again asking me my extruder and bed temps (clearly another copy paste reply where they didn't even bother to read the email history).
Sometimes we ask the same questions twice. You would be surprised how many times we get different answers the second time around. A large number of complaints spontaneously resolve themselves, or change over time.
I have written this elsewhere, but I may reiterate:
Most first time support contacts will be taken care of by Joel
People having further troubles will be taken care of by me.
There is a high probability I will ask you the same questions Joel does. Again, you would be very surprised how often you ask the same question twice and get different answers. It pays to be extremely thorough. I read *all* customer e-mails. Not just the ones I reply to.
markulus wrote:Eventually, I received a merchandise return form. After some time, "Joel" said that they received the hotend and that he was going to prepare an order for the replacement. He indicated that the order was in the queue and would be sent by the end of the week (end of week was 2 days ago).
We are between two rocks here. Demand for these parts is quite unpredictable, but customers demand estimates. Our policy is to give reasonable estimates. Sometimes we do not meet these. Customers hate to hear "maybe" or "should", but we'd prefer to be honest.
markulus wrote:THEN I get an email from John with a merchandise return form, telling me to send them the hotend that I had already sent, that that they have already inspected and that they indicated that they would replace.... Again, they didn't even bother to read the email history, instead they just copy-paste responses.
It seemed you had not been fully taken care of. We are still receiving e-mails from you.
markulus wrote:Finally I get an email telling me that the hotend somehow had defective thermal paste (?).
Yes. We've been trying to let everyone know what the defects have been. This keeps everyone better informed. The chief complaint for the support department is "not enough communication." That is, out of all the problems that are directly in the purview of support, this is the most common one. We know that shipping times are something everyone wants lowered, but this is not something support has direct control of.
markulus wrote:When I ask if they're going to send me a new one, "John" tells me that they "should be sending me a new one"..... No info is available on the customer service site ( I can't even see my own order history).
What sort of information would you like? You are queue to receive a new hot-end. We currently do not have a way of visualizing this. You will be notified when the order is mailed.
markulus wrote:It's now been a month since my SD3 stopped working due to Solidoodle's own manufacturing defects. Getting answers out of these guys is like pulling teeth.
What would you like to know?
We answer 100s of questions a day. We are not keeping anything secret. In the case of parts returns, we err on the side of being thorough. We really like to see all the evidence in a case before we make a decision.
markulus wrote:
I had to post this because I feel I've been patient up until now. I'm not going to hound SD customer service with emails, holding their hands through a simple return process. Instead I'm waiting for them to honor their service commitment (eventually), after which I'm finding alternate sources for parts. I've already recommended to a few friends interested in 3D printing to get their printers elsewhere.
The moment you sent in the part, you were in line for a part. Remember, Solidoodle does not have a warranty. We reserve the right to investigate each part return to the fullest possible degree. We want to make sure that all returns are done correctly, and that everyone receives the right parts in a reasonable amount of time.
We understand that what people would like is to receive replacements as quickly as possible, with the minimum fuss. However, we do have to investigate, and there is a process. Those of you who have been with us for a while know that the process is quicker, and more efficient than it has ever been. We have made good on our promises to improve time and again, and this is no exception.
I wish I could mail you the part myself today. If I could I would. However, we do not mail on the weekends, and frankly there is a line of customers just as deserving of parts in front of you. Since we have a long lead time, we get demands - even threats - on a daily basis regarding lead times. We hear everyone loud and clear, and we are making strides towards speeding up the process. We have made good on such promises in the past, and shall continue to.
markulus wrote:The Solidoodle is a good product. If Solidoodle (the company) wants to survive and grow, they really need to work on their customer service experience.
Complaints do help, but please be specific where the complaints lay. Customer experience can be a bit of a vague concept (though we do have a specialist for this very concept.)
From you post I feel these are the main points:
1)You do not feel your questions were answered.
2)You feel that support was not clear about your replacement.
3)You want a more definite lead time.
4)You want the part to come quicker.
5)You were confused by support's report of the original problem.
#1) We're here to answer questions. Sometimes it can be hard to gauge how detailed an answer should be. Which answers would you have liked answered? How could we have answered them better?
#2) We're sorry if we appeared unclear. We'll use more definite language. For the record, no one with a faulty part is ever denied a replacement. (so long as they contact us in a reasonable time period.)
#3) We wish we could give you this. Sadly, support is not in control of the exact date of shipment of parts.
#4) We wish we could force this to happen. SD is currently improving it's spare parts program to better handle the volume.
#5) We'll work on formatting e-mails so that these reports wont come as a shock.
Former Solidoodle employee, no longer associated with the company.