1 Topic by VonDriguen (edited by VonDriguen 2018-11-17 19:31:27)

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Topic: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

Dears,

I have a Solidoodle 3 and I print using the Soliprint software vestion 1.3.0.
When I try to print one of the part of the space shuttle (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10228 - ShuttleOrbiterAft.stl), the bed start 3cm lower than the extruder when the first layer start printing. Of course, I have to stop the print.
I do not have any issue with the other parts.

I suppose it is an issue in the GCode but I do not know how to recover it and how to update it.

Does someone know how to fix this?

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

Solilrint was never designed to be used on an SD3.

Try RH and Slic3r instead

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

you can download RH (Repetier Host) here: https://www.repetier.com/download-now/

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

Well, Soliprint is working very well except for this specific print...

I hope that I will not have the same issue with Repetier Host. I will inform you tomorrow.

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

It would help if you would post the exact part of the model that is giving you a problem unless it is all of them.

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

Dears,

Problem solved. As requested, I attach the stl file.

The issue was not the printer or the software. It was the object itself.
As proposed in the replies, I downloaded and installed RH. And when I opened the file with RH, a message was displayed mentionning that the object was broken and that I should visit "https://tools3d.azurewebsites.net/" to fix it.

I did it, I receive a .3mf file and I tried to installed it with RH. But another problem come from RH. Every time a new layer was done, it pull and then push back the filament. My solidoodle 3 is "old" (bough in 2013) and the extruder does not support it for a long time: after a couple of minutes, the filament did not followed the back and forth. The extruder did not push the plastic on the bed anymore.

So, I finally find a solution to convert a .3mf file to a .stl file and I use SoliPrint again. Now, everything is working.

If I summarize the complete workload:
1. I open RH and open the .stl file. If I do not see any warning message, I go to the point 4. Otherwise, I continue to the second step.
2. I repair the file and receive back a .3mf
3. I convert the .3mf to a stl
4. I print the file

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

so that link is for windows 10 users which that old 3D app will not work correct in if thats whats running on the PC your using. nor will it work right in the older windows OS made b4 win10 back to like win XP 32bit NOT 64bit. its not a hardware issue at all but a software conflict on way out dated printer app and much newer PC OS.

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

also the stl file when opened in Netfab has issues that need repaired still b4 ready to print

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

The STL file opens OK in RH, no errors.

http://soliforum.com/i/?fOUaJuS.jpg

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

loaded fine for me as well - Win7, 64bit - RH v1.0.6

http://soliforum.com/i/?MbM2QKP.png

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

ok, i suspect the file shared here is the OP's fixed version..

I went to thingiverse and found what I believe to be the original file the OP was working with, and yes, it does have issues (both of them)

original file: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:10228/files

1st one has over 1100 invalid orientations

http://soliforum.com/i/?ocVUknW.png

someone's attempt to fix the file (that failed): https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:588490/files

2nd one - not sure what they did, but they actually made things worse as this one has holes in it...

http://soliforum.com/i/?SwHwrOC.png

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

plus just because RH opens a file ok does NOT mean it is error free and will print fine. I know this 1st hand after dozens of bad files downloaded and attempted to print when issues caused failed prints.

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

My rule of thumb for sites like thingiverse is if they don't have an actual print by themselves or others posted I pass on it. Chances are very high it is a file that has errors or is just not printable.

Thingiverse and other such sites originated as a 3d art dump. So many of the creators there have no clue what it takes to make an object and it's files printable.

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Re: [SOLVED] First layer too high from the bed

carl_m1968 wrote:

My rule of thumb for sites like thingiverse is if they don't have an actual print by themselves or others posted I pass on it. Chances are very high it is a file that has errors or is just not printable.

even if there are actual prints does not mean the file(s) are without error.

I have been working on printing Seven, the articulated dragon and there are multiple prints of it by both the person that created it, and by others... yet the files are loaded with errors - holes, degenerative faces, and even some invalid orientations - and there are a LOT of files for this thing.

Because I am scaling it up to 300% of its normal size, I am going through each piece and fixing all the little issues that become big issues due to the scaling. Yes, it is time consuming, but it is something worth doing if you really want to print something - and I really want to print this dragon.

http://soliforum.com/i/?C45fFPw.jpg

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