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Topic: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

Im sticking with my SD2, trying to improve performance, and Im wondering if the aluminium build plate makes a difference.  Should i shell out or stick with trusty old wood?

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

if you dont have a heated aluminum bed then yes, and it comes with better heater and thermister now. wish they still offered the aluminum support for bed to replace the wood one. I have one and Azzerate does. he was gonna have more made since SD discontinued all SD2 and SD3 specific parts. these where their best printers b4 they went to SD4 and the others. cant understand why their site offers the SD4 at higher cost than Aprentice wonder if they stock any of the current printers.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

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if you dont have a heated aluminum bed then yes, and it comes with better heater and thermister now. wish they still offered the aluminum support for bed to replace the wood one. I have one and Azzerate does. he was gonna have more made since SD discontinued all SD2 and SD3 specific parts. these where their best printers b4 they went to SD4 and the others. cant understand why their site offers the SD4 at higher cost than Aprentice wonder if they stock any of the current printers.


Are we both talking about this? http://www.solidoodle.com/index.php?rou … duct_id=97

SD2 Sanguinololu 1.3a atmega1284p, wood platform, lawsy's carriages, braided fishing line, pallet wood overhead spool mount, carboard/magnet enclosure, glass bed, E3D v6, bed levelling knobs, extended z-stop, 25A DC-DC SSR for bed heater, everything fixed to the SD2 frame, marlin firmware with some adjustments and extra failsafes enabled.  I'll never give up on you, little printer that could(n't)!

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

driggers wrote:
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if you dont have a heated aluminum bed then yes, and it comes with better heater and thermister now. wish they still offered the aluminum support for bed to replace the wood one. I have one and Azzerate does. he was gonna have more made since SD discontinued all SD2 and SD3 specific parts. these where their best printers b4 they went to SD4 and the others. cant understand why their site offers the SD4 at higher cost than Aprentice wonder if they stock any of the current printers.


Are we both talking about this? http://www.solidoodle.com/index.php?rou … duct_id=97


thats the support for bed. its no longer available. the bed/build plate is the heated Aluminum one I was saying comes with the newer silicone heater and thermister which they also sell seperate on their page (if anything they list is really still available) also check their shipping costs they used to be high.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

ok...  i have a 200W silicone heater coming to me in tha mail, in any case.

SD2 Sanguinololu 1.3a atmega1284p, wood platform, lawsy's carriages, braided fishing line, pallet wood overhead spool mount, carboard/magnet enclosure, glass bed, E3D v6, bed levelling knobs, extended z-stop, 25A DC-DC SSR for bed heater, everything fixed to the SD2 frame, marlin firmware with some adjustments and extra failsafes enabled.  I'll never give up on you, little printer that could(n't)!

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

I am still using my wood support till it needs replaced/breaks but have the aluminum one which came with the microswitch and plastic sleeves for Z rods, but no springs, screws for mounting build plate. had to request them later.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

make sure it has the 3 holes for bed screws. most dont and you can not make holes without ruining heater pad.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

macguyverx made a mod to his Press which I believe you could mimic for the SD2.  Uses relatively conventional components...

http://www.soliforum.com/post/112969/#p112969

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

n2ri wrote:

make sure it has the 3 holes for bed screws. most dont and you can not make holes without ruining heater pad.

it is only 120mm square.  *just* fits between the screws wink.  also, my mistake earlier, as it is only 120w, not 200.

SD2 Sanguinololu 1.3a atmega1284p, wood platform, lawsy's carriages, braided fishing line, pallet wood overhead spool mount, carboard/magnet enclosure, glass bed, E3D v6, bed levelling knobs, extended z-stop, 25A DC-DC SSR for bed heater, everything fixed to the SD2 frame, marlin firmware with some adjustments and extra failsafes enabled.  I'll never give up on you, little printer that could(n't)!

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

IronMan wrote:

macguyverx made a mod to his Press which I believe you could mimic for the SD2.  Uses relatively conventional components...

http://www.soliforum.com/post/112969/#p112969


not sure what has been done as I am not familiar with the press but looks like its built dif from SD2 with Z motor at top and SD2 has other parts already in that spot so without complete redesign and lots of metal work not feasible.

the SD2,3,4 had bed leveling screws in tripod configuration making most PCB/silicone heaters not work as they use the 4 outer corners for screw holes instead. a few made custom  fit for the early SD printers using relay for extra power but they are sold out since models discontinued. I have emailed the current silicone maker to see if they can make a version with the 3 SD holes. they are looking into it so who knows. I prefer silicone to PCB as it can take higher temp plastic for long print times better with exotic filaments. though may not need to, still more durable. and glass build plate is now standard and silicone transfers better to glass than PCB does.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

driggers wrote:
n2ri wrote:

make sure it has the 3 holes for bed screws. most dont and you can not make holes without ruining heater pad.

it is only 120mm square.  *just* fits between the screws wink.  also, my mistake earlier, as it is only 120w, not 200.

cool where is it from?

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

keenovo, ebay

my octopus post on it http://www.soliforum.com/topic/13522/ke … aluminium/

SD2 Sanguinololu 1.3a atmega1284p, wood platform, lawsy's carriages, braided fishing line, pallet wood overhead spool mount, carboard/magnet enclosure, glass bed, E3D v6, bed levelling knobs, extended z-stop, 25A DC-DC SSR for bed heater, everything fixed to the SD2 frame, marlin firmware with some adjustments and extra failsafes enabled.  I'll never give up on you, little printer that could(n't)!

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

driggers wrote:

keenovo, ebay

my octopus post on it http://www.soliforum.com/topic/13522/ke … aluminium/


that heater says 150mmx150mm 180watt so cant fit to an SD2 since it has no holes for the 3 screws that level bed. maybe an SD3 200mmx200mm with outer edges 25mm unheated

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

not what i bought thou.  click the link

SD2 Sanguinololu 1.3a atmega1284p, wood platform, lawsy's carriages, braided fishing line, pallet wood overhead spool mount, carboard/magnet enclosure, glass bed, E3D v6, bed levelling knobs, extended z-stop, 25A DC-DC SSR for bed heater, everything fixed to the SD2 frame, marlin firmware with some adjustments and extra failsafes enabled.  I'll never give up on you, little printer that could(n't)!

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

Semi-cross post,

I found this on thingiverse that looks like a really nifty way to mount a new mat. (comes with integrated bed clips and everythign)  It does add significant width to your print bed so I'm guessing modifying the z stop screw mount will also be required.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:64607

You do have to drill (and tap?) 4 small holes in the corner of your aluminum bed.  This is probably best done by removing it from solidoodle to prevent mishaps to electronics and stuff.  I wouldn't think these holes would affect the original build platform much if you decide this route is not for you.

I was planning on using this (or remixing it a bit) for when/if i upgrade my print bed.  I was also planning on leaving the original elements in place on the aluminum bed in case i feel like reverting to stock.   I've not tore things apart yet so I'm not sure if that will be possible

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

My solution is a bit simpler than this, and I was warned that you'll want more thermal mass attached to the silicone heater. Silicone touching aluminium is good.

SD2 Sanguinololu 1.3a atmega1284p, wood platform, lawsy's carriages, braided fishing line, pallet wood overhead spool mount, carboard/magnet enclosure, glass bed, E3D v6, bed levelling knobs, extended z-stop, 25A DC-DC SSR for bed heater, everything fixed to the SD2 frame, marlin firmware with some adjustments and extra failsafes enabled.  I'll never give up on you, little printer that could(n't)!

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Re: is aluminum platform worth $45 on SD2?

I remade a version of this heat bed which will fit an 8X8 bed, but I cannot post the files here at all, dunno why... I cannot post any files from outside onto the forums...



maaltan wrote:

Semi-cross post,

I found this on thingiverse that looks like a really nifty way to mount a new mat. (comes with integrated bed clips and everythign)  It does add significant width to your print bed so I'm guessing modifying the z stop screw mount will also be required.

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:64607

You do have to drill (and tap?) 4 small holes in the corner of your aluminum bed.  This is probably best done by removing it from solidoodle to prevent mishaps to electronics and stuff.  I wouldn't think these holes would affect the original build platform much if you decide this route is not for you.

I was planning on using this (or remixing it a bit) for when/if i upgrade my print bed.  I was also planning on leaving the original elements in place on the aluminum bed in case i feel like reverting to stock.   I've not tore things apart yet so I'm not sure if that will be possible

SD3/SD4 Mods completed: glass bed, changed zrod to 5mm, slop nut, aluminum arm-originally wood, plexi-glass case, Z Wobble Preventer,  Lawsy Carriages, X\Y motor fans, control board fans, extruder cartridge heater, MK5, Esd Lite
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