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Topic: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

Howdy~

I am a professor at a small university in the midwest. I received a grant to purchase a 3D printer and went with the Solidoodle Workbench Apprentice, since it seemed to be a good starting point. I have never worked with 3D printers before I received this one a few weeks ago, so this is all new to me.

I unboxed the printer and followed the directions that were on Solidoodle's website. It was a little frustrating because all of the directions were for the older printers and I wasn't exactly sure if all of these directions applied to my specific printer. I made it though all of the steps after going around in circles for an hour or so. I tried to set the "home" for the print head and the print bed crashed into the extruder head. I did not know about the z-probe, that it had to be lowered before beginning a print or calibrating. I then exacerbated the issue by not understanding that + was down and - was up in the z-axis. This meant I was trying to lower the print bed by moving the manually by +mm instead of -mm. After restarting and reconnecting and doing some scouring of the internet I discovered that it moved in the opposite direction. Once I was able to lower the bed and learned about the z-probe, I was able to make a few simple prints that I downloaded from thingverse. I was having trouble with the printer printing off of the print bed. I realized that the printer settings in repetier-host were set up for the Solidoodle 3, which had a larger print bed. I resized the print bed in the preferences and was able to print another simple .stl file. I thought I had it pretty well figured out. Then things stopped sticking to the heated glass bed. I researched and found that a little bit of purple glue stick would solve my problem and it did. I have been able to print a few things fairly easily since then.

Here are a few issues that I am still having trouble with:

My spool keeps over-rotating, this leads to the filament spooling off of the spool and getting tangled on the pvc and the mounting brackets for the pvc. I have found a print for a spacer that will fit between the pvc and inner diameter of the spool. I will print it tomorrow and see how it works.

The glass plate is held onto the print bed with spring clips. The extruder kept crashing into them when I would print things. I have remover the silver part of the clips to make them smaller. Also, setting the print bed to the correct size has helped immensely.

I haven't even tried to set up the second extruder head. Like I stated above, it is configured to a Solidoodle 3, which of course has only one extruder.

The filament seems to run into the wiring for the extruders often, this has yet to cause a problem, but I am nervous about it.

i do not really understand how the g-code works yet. I understand that I can enter commands by typing codes into the command text box, but I am not sure about editing an existing .stl file or editing a start code.

I have experience with SketchUp for other applications and have used it to model a print and print it. I think it works ok, I might start playing around with 123D, as I have experience in Autocad as a drafting software.

I would really like to know the optimal setting for repetier-host for the workbench apprentice. It has worked fairly well for me as a complete noob, but I also feel like I am just scratching the surface of potential for this printer.


Any help or suggestions would be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks,

Nick

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

I am not a Workbench Apprentice owner but I can offer some basic advice.
Ditch the clips and glue, go buy some Aqua-Net hairspray.  Spray the underside of the glass liberally and apply a light mist on the top side of the glass.  Then place the glass on the bed and heat/cool cycle the bed a few times.  The glass will stick yet can still be removed.  Your prints will stick very well assuming the bed is level and the first layer height is correct.
Hope that helps some.

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

I am a pro at them now lol
I can send you a config file when I get home of my settings
And a few modifications that you may want to make

• Solidoodle Workbench Apprentice
• Creates plastic parts up to 6" x 6" x 8"
• Heated Aluminum Build Platform with Glass Bed
• Dual extruder

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

Wardjr-

I will try the hairspray. The binder clips are a bit of a pain. After removing the top "handle" on each of the clips, the printer clears them better, but I have to put the handles back in every time I want to remove the glass or put it back on the bed.

Cpsmicahel-

I look forward to any settings or preferences that you can share!

Thanks guys,

Nick

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

But from my experience room temp has been a key factor
For me if I was you I would inclosure your printer in plexiglass
Make sure your use .48 not .42 and run your heat plate at 110 and your extruder at 220
I use kapton tape and purple glue stick

• Solidoodle Workbench Apprentice
• Creates plastic parts up to 6" x 6" x 8"
• Heated Aluminum Build Platform with Glass Bed
• Dual extruder

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

nicholaseshaw wrote:

Howdy~

The filament seems to run into the wiring for the extruders often, this has yet to cause a problem, but I am nervous about it.

I had the same problem, so I designed this:http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:627986
It works great for me! Printed it sideways with no support at 0.2 mm layer height.
Hope it will be helpful!

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

cpsmichel-

I loaded in your g-code start suggestions from another thread and I am having a little trouble. The start-up went smoothly until the G29 command sequence. The extruder head was off of the print bed on the y-axis. The red button of the probe missed the bed and the bed crashed into the extruder head. I retried the sequence and manually bumped the extruder head to a position over the print bed. The ned moved up until it touched the red button, then went right into the print. I think that it skipped the z-probe command. I feel like my settings are incorrect, which would be why my printer doesn't know where the front of the print bed is and there is probably something screwy in the g-code I entered for the start-up.

Any help would be great!!!!!!!

Thanks,

Nick

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Re: Workbench Apprentice First Attempts

Here is the start code that I have come up with:

G21; set mm units
G1 Z10 F300; drop bed for clearance
G28 X0 Y0; home x and y axis
@pause; probe double check
G28 Z0; home z
M190 S80; set bed temp to start heating
M104 S215; set extruder to start heating
M190 S105; set bed temp to printing temp
G90; set absolute coordinates
G1 Z5 F300; move bed down 5mm
G1 X10 Y10 F3000; move to front left corner
M109 S215; wait for extruder temp to be reached
G28; home prior to z-probe
G29; z-probe
G1 Z.35 F200; move platform close to nezzle
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance
G28; home to drop anchor
G1 E7; extrude anchor

I have tweaked a few things that I have yet to try, like the "pause" at the beginning for z-probe and the "home" before extruding the anchor. The anchor kept ending up in the center of the glass and was gumming up the works. But, I was able to hit the "RUN" button and the printer did everything I thought it would in the start-up code. I will add these last few changes on my next print.

Let me know if any of this is redundant or bulky!

Thanks for your help!!!

Nick

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Here is my g-code it works for me some times the probe pops out of place so i just watch it if it does pop it back up before it calibrates the plate
and here is what i been using for me settings
and i modded my probe too
purple glue on kapton tape


T0
G21; set mm units
G28 X0 Y0; home x and y axes
G91
G1 Z10 F5000; move bed down
G90; use absolute coordinates
G1 X0 Y0 F5000; move to front
@pause
G29; probe bed
G92 E0; reset extrusion distance

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• Solidoodle Workbench Apprentice
• Creates plastic parts up to 6" x 6" x 8"
• Heated Aluminum Build Platform with Glass Bed
• Dual extruder