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Topic: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

I just got a Solidoodle 4 and have noticed a few things that I didn't expect.

Z-axis limiter: The metal tab was bent so badly that the Z-axis limiter did nothing. The pin could never be pressed. After pressing Run Job, the printer homed pre-print and made a horrible grinding sound as it continuously attempted to go up but was never limited.

X- Y- and X-axis limiters: Why is there no limiter in the far directions (Toward the door, Down, and Left)? The banging sound it makes when a gear attempts to go too far (and keep going) is rather obnoxious.

Build Plate is not level: The front of my build plate, between the two set-screws, is not level. It's not off by a lot, but when the thickness of a piece of paper is important, being off by about that much is potentially bad.

Front Right corner inaccessible: The power/etc cabling that goes to the print head is not long enough to allow the print head to reach the Front Right corner of the build plate when the plate is at 0 mm in the Z-axis.

Are these normal? They aren't disastrous, now that I fixed the Z-axis limiter, but just kinda ... annoying.

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Re: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

Unfortunately that's all pretty normal.

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Re: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

yes and then some

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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Re: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

I have answered your questions below. Contact us if your have any more questions, or issues.

1. Z-axis limiter: The metal tab was bent so badly that the Z-axis limiter did nothing. The pin could never be pressed. After pressing Run Job, the printer homed pre-print and made a horrible grinding sound as it continuously attempted to go up but was never limited.

You can simply bend this limit switch back to straight position. If the limit switch is not clicking, this means that the screws holding it may be too tight. By loosening them just a little, the switch will click. Once this swtich is clicking, adjust your Z offset and it will limit your print from raising too high. Also the grinding noise that you are hearing is from either poorly calibrated belts, or stepper chip voltage for the motor that is making the grinding noise. You may want to test your Solidoodle with a multimeter.

Please visit [Multimeter Testing Your Solidoodle] for more information.

2. X- Y- and X-axis limiters: Why is there no limiter in the far directions (Toward the door, Down, and Left)? The banging sound it makes when a gear attempts to go too far (and keep going) is rather obnoxious.

We only have limit switches where they are needed, there are three for each axis. Have you calibrated all parts of your printer. Belts and extruder.

3. Build Plate is not level: The front of my build plate, between the two set-screws, is not level. It's not off by a lot, but when the thickness of a piece of paper is important, being off by about that much is potentially bad.

If your print bed is level a close to correct as possible, this will not cause an issue. Have you printed a job yet, did you have any issues? If so, what issues?

4. Front Right corner inaccessible: The power/etc cabling that goes to the print head is not long enough to allow the print head to reach the Front Right corner of the build plate when the plate is at 0 mm in the Z-axis.

It should be long enough. Did you remove the zip tie placed on the extruder wire sheath for delivery?

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Re: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

Unfortunately the SD4 wires really aren't long enough. Mine has snagged at that point since day 1 not only because of short wires, but the wire sheath can get caught on the build plate. This is likely impossible to avoid because of the stock placement of the motherboard. Granted, it will go there, but not without resistance.

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Re: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

cocuzzi wrote:

I just got a Solidoodle 4 and have noticed a few things that I didn't expect.

Z-axis limiter: The metal tab was bent so badly that the Z-axis limiter did nothing. The pin could never be pressed. After pressing Run Job, the printer homed pre-print and made a horrible grinding sound as it continuously attempted to go up but was never limited.

X- Y- and X-axis limiters: Why is there no limiter in the far directions (Toward the door, Down, and Left)? The banging sound it makes when a gear attempts to go too far (and keep going) is rather obnoxious.

Build Plate is not level: The front of my build plate, between the two set-screws, is not level. It's not off by a lot, but when the thickness of a piece of paper is important, being off by about that much is potentially bad.

Front Right corner inaccessible: The power/etc cabling that goes to the print head is not long enough to allow the print head to reach the Front Right corner of the build plate when the plate is at 0 mm in the Z-axis.

Are these normal? They aren't disastrous, now that I fixed the Z-axis limiter, but just kinda ... annoying.

These are all unfortunately pretty normal. FWIW, I solved the wire-to-short issue (at least somewhat) by pulling the wire bundle through the motherboard case. It is strain-reliefed with a zip tie that stops it from being pulled out of the case. You can get another inch or so if you remove this zip tie and pull it up a bit. You can put a ziptie back on there if you want. I didn't bother as there really isn't any strain on these wires as long as they don't catch on the bed.

The build plate not level. Well, I *tried* to fix this by removing the metal bed and using clamps to flatten the bed. It was good for a week or so, but went un-level again. The cause seems to be the thin metal used for the bed. Solved this by upgrading to a glass bed. I put a thermal conductive pad in between to fill in the gaps from the warped metal bed. That also help the glass stick in place.

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Retroplayer wrote:

The build plate not level. Well, I *tried* to fix this by removing the metal bed and using clamps to flatten the bed. It was good for a week or so, but went un-level again. The cause seems to be the thin metal used for the bed. Solved this by upgrading to a glass bed. I put a thermal conductive pad in between to fill in the gaps from the warped metal bed. That also help the glass stick in place.

Interesting solution. Do you mean something like this?
amazon .com/202mm-2mm-Silicone-Thermal-Heatsink/dp/B008X0UKV8/ref=pd_sim_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=03ZD9YG30CQ6E2SGY306

(apparently I can't post a link...)

How long does it take to get the glass up to temp? Also, did you put kapton tape on the glass, or do you use hairspray/slurry/etc?

thanks!

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Re: New Solidoodle 4 -- are these issues normal?

Z-axis limiter: The metal tab was bent so badly that the Z-axis limiter did nothing. The pin could never be pressed. After pressing Run Job, the printer homed pre-print and made a horrible grinding sound as it continuously attempted to go up but was never limited.

I avoided this by inspecting limit switches and adjusting the z before trying to home. My x limit swith was missing a mounting screw.

X- Y- and X-axis limiters: Why is there no limiter in the far directions (Toward the door, Down, and Left)? The banging sound it makes when a gear attempts to go too far (and keep going) is rather obnoxious.

well in theory not needed and limited by software settings . But yes a horrible noise indeed  DAMHIKT.

Build Plate is not level: The front of my build plate, between the two set-screws, is not level. It's not off by a lot, but when the thickness of a piece of paper is important, being off by about that much is potentially bad.

Wing nuts for leveling found on floor of printer.  yes needed to level.
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