Topic: flexible material
Question can i use that new flexible material on my my Soliddoodle 2 or i need a new machine to use it
Re: flexible material
More information required... there are a couple of flexible materials out on the market and some are usable by Solidoodle. It may require a different hot end as the temp required may be higher than what the stock hot end can handle.
3 2013-10-02 17:36:43 (edited by elmoret 2013-10-02 17:37:13)
Re: flexible material
What flexible material?
Use it how?
EDIT: I should just stick to the Filastruder subforum. 
4 2013-10-02 18:35:21 (edited by tateerstem 2013-10-02 18:36:55)
Re: flexible material
I was wondering the same thing. Just now saw this stuff on thingiverse. So will the Ninjaflex work on SD 2? It is an elastomeric TPE.
5 2013-10-02 18:40:35 (edited by 2n2r5 2013-10-02 19:01:39)
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Re: flexible material
elmoret wrote:
Are you serious right now?
What flexible material?
Use it how?EDIT: I should just stick to the Filastruder subforum.
The users in the filastruder forums are generally a bit more advanced. I think your expectations might be a bit elevated for the general population but please, don't leave us here with out your knowledge. Your the simon cowell of these forums and some people just need to learn to deal with harsh criticism. I enjoy people lighting into me when I have a lapse in judgement. So please don't retreat to the world of filastruders. We need you here.
As Ian pointed out to me:
As far as the filament is concerned, the new flexible filament has the same properties as U-mold. It melts at a very low 60c.
That means you will need to alter your firmware to allow for the ultra low temps. I have some U-mold at home that I was going to try to run through my filastruder. Not sure how that will work yet.
SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.
Re: flexible material
Based on the operating temp from the website, it should be ok, but we won't know unless someone here purchases and tests it.
Processing Guidelines:
Recommended extruder temperature: 210 - 230°C
Recommended platform temperature: 30 - 40°C
7 2013-10-02 18:54:08 (edited by elmoret 2013-10-02 18:55:54)
Re: flexible material
I've run Duraflex TPE through the Filastruder. It works fine.
Flexible filament in 1.75mm will require slow print speeds, and probably a fan on the extruder to keep the filament cool at the feed portion. A PTFE guide between the feed wheels and the hotend would help too.
A conversion to 3.0mm filament would also help, since stiffness is proportional to diameter^4.
I don't have a problem with noobs asking questions - but at least use full sentences and punctuation, provide links, and show you did even a little legwork. My very first post on these forums was actually helping another user with his Z-tab. Here was my second:
Hello,
I'm having a problem with large prints curling up. I've leveled the bed, and the raft prints great, nice and even, but the print curls off the bed, and worse, curls off itself.
I'm using ABS, at 200deg extruder, 80deg bed. It seems like the extruder hangs out at 190 degrees, not 200.
Tips? The separation mid-print is particularly troublesome. Coming off the bed I can deal with.
Should I run the extruder hotter to get the layers to bond better?
Here's a picture:
A very common problem, but I discussed measures I'd taken up until that point, gave plenty of information, posted a picture. The cure was using an enclosure, but this was before that was common knowledge.
Oh, and I gave advice back as soon as I started learning. All of tapout's 26 posts have been asking for advice.
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cckens wrote:
Based on the operating temp from the website, it should be ok, but we won't know unless someone here purchases and tests it.
Processing Guidelines:
Recommended extruder temperature: 210 - 230°C
Recommended platform temperature: 30 - 40°C
This is why Tim's point is completely valid. What flexible filament? There are many types and the one I thought the OP was talking about was
http://store.makerbot.com/flexible-filament.html <-- that.
SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.
Re: flexible material
Makerbot's new flexible material is probably Polycaprolactone, which melts at 60C, and they recommend extruding at 100C (maybe 70-80 for Solidoodle. It's also $130/kg, and they say it really only sticks to acrylic, and not glass or tape.
One thing to look out for when printing with flexible filament is bending and jamming between the gear and the hot end. You might need some tubing or something to guide the filament closely through that gap.
It would be cool to see if you could mix rigid and flexible filament in the same part using a dual extruder. It would have to be a printer like the Replicator with the extruders on the carriage however. The flexible filaments apparently don't work well with Bowden extruders.
Re: flexible material
Just ordered a spool from fenner drives (ninjaflex). Runs roughly $100 per Kg and extrudes at 210 C (guessing 180ish on solidoodle). Once it gets here, I will try to give some opinions on it.
Re: flexible material
The one the I'm talking about is Ninjaflex stuff
Re: flexible material
Since you can buy Multiflex TPE pellets on Ebay for $4.50/lb, it would certainly be worthwhile to try running through the Filastruder and make something as usable as the $100/kg stuff. It might not be as pretty, black and beige are the only colors you can get on Ebay at the moment.
Re: flexible material
Thanks for the suggestion Ian. My 'struder is in the mail (thanks, tim!) as we speak. Figure since I haven't killed my oem hotend yet, but have an E3D for backup (and the mk5 printed of course), I can experiment with the stuff without too much guilt!