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Topic: Simplify3D - Anyone using it?

Someone mentioned Simplify3D on another post, so I had to check it out, and it really looks like a nicely integrated app.  However, they apparently do not offer a demo or "lite" version of the app.  After plunking a bunch of money for other similar apps that did not live up to their reputation, I find it hard to shell out $125 without trying it first.

It's nice to see all the sample screens, and all that, but that won't tell me how well it works with other models.  How does it handle "problem" models?  How does it deal with support creation, what kind of control do you have over the GCode generation , how much control do you have over your printer settings, etc.

So how many here have had a chance to work with this program?  Any feedback?

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
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AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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Re: Simplify3D - Anyone using it?

Just checked out the site...Seems to be a fair notch up from RH / Slic3r, especially in the ability to directly control your support generating options; but not a $125.00 improvement in my book.

I agree, they should have a limited time trial version...but my guess is no one would shell out the fee once they tried the software!

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Re: Simplify3D - Anyone using it?

https://www.facebook.com/Makergear/post … 6154823305


MakerGear @ May 7 at 12:02pm
Want to try the Simplify 3d Creator software before buying ? If you are a MakerGear user then send an email at the guys at Simplify 3d (http://www.simplify3d.com/contact-us/) stating that you would like to test the software and soon you should have your trial copy.

I don't imagine this is limited to MakerGear users.

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I own it and so does 2n2r5
I like it but I don't have it completely dialed in yet.
However it slices a lot faster then any other program I've ever used

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I have trialed it and it was ok, but I had some issues. I was really interested as it is meant to run Makerbot printers. Some feedback I gave them which may or may not be relevant for people here:

- The lack of direct control for the Repicator printer is most disappointing. Perhaps I missed something but the software is promoted as already having this on your website. Bearing in mind my Replicator workflow, this would be the number one reason for me to purchase and use your software. An all in one host/manual printer controller/slicing engine with g-code preview package will blow anything from Makerbot out of the water, so I would suggest you make it a priority.

- The fixing of non-manifold STL geometry is a good feature. This has recently been introduced into Repetier-Host as well, although your version looks slightly more advanced. When highlighting errors, they display a red border, but I'm unaware of what exactly the problem is. I end up using most of the repair options, and then after selectig the identify feature I see the problems are gone. Might I suggest more problem feedback, and/or a 'fix all' button for a more streamlined experience.

- Unless I'm blind there is no way for me to specify the dimensions of my printer in terms of build area, centre and end stop position. I ran a test print with my Solidoodle, which sliced ok, but then tried to print in the corner instead of the middle. Clearly, your software is assuming that the middle is 0,0 but the Solidoodle firmware is configured for it to be in the front left. I can recompile the firmware but that is asking a lot for something that should be set up with software, especially in a pay product. Perhaps the .FFF file can be setup with the required data, but there is no example one for me to edit and try, and I can't export and modify one of the existing ones in the trial version. Very frustrating and consequently I can't actually print anything to test the software properly.

- At this stage I find the interface clunky and difficult to navigate. Like Repetier-Host, you have many functions to find a home for. Repetier, however,  uses tabs to organise buttons in logical groups. I personally hate the printer controls in the separate window. If I am using the main window and a print is going bad, it is very bad to have to scramble through windows to locate and click the emergency stop button.

Overall I feel that you have a very promising product, but at this stage it is not for me, especially given the price tag when every competitor product is free. I will follow any updates in the future, however.

Their response:

About the specific items you mentioned, it sounds like you're thinking the same things we are!  Direct control for MakerBot printers has been a high priority for awhile, but they definitely didn't make things easy since they're using their own communication protocols and there are many undocumented barriers we have to work through.  That being said, we already have the basic connection and jogging controls complete.  Once we complete the temperature controls, it will be added into the public releases (probably in the next software update).

We also tried to create a "Fix All" repair button several times, but sadly it doesn't always work like you would expect.  There are many times where you can't actually determine the design intent of the model just by looking at the raw digital triangular mesh.  For example you might see a hole in a model and the "Repair All" function might think to close the hole.  However, the design intent might have actually been to keep the hole, but you really want to just thicken the surrounding surfaces to make them more than a 2D surface.  And that's what we saw - The fix everything type functions would frequently make the wrong choices since at times it is impossible to automatically determine how to repair the model without some designer intervention.  Right now we're developing a 2-fold approach.  One is to continue to have a single click repair everything option, but the other is to add in more control for where different repair options are used.  Without getting into all the details, I think it will be the best of both worlds and at least the user will have an option when the "repair all" method fails.

The machine settings like build dimensions and endstop positioning can be found by going to Tools > Options and clicking the Machine tab.  Alternatively, you can also set the dimensions in your FFF Settings by using the G-Code tab and enabling the "Override Machine Dimensions" option, whichever is easiest for you.  That will let you change the axis origin to the right location for the solidoodle.  We also include the option to use G-Code offsets if the XYZ origin is not at one of the edges of the build platform (for example delta printers frequently have the origin in the center of the build plate).  Those 3 options let you configure it for pretty much every setup out there, so let me know if you need any further guidance about what to change for your machine.

Again, I definitely appreciate the feedback and I'll make sure we continue working on some of these open items.

The guy was clearly knowledgeable and the customer service was good.

In my opinion, for the the price they want, the product needs some polishing. There are some promising features in the pipeline but when your competitors are free it's hard to justify the purchase. Give them some time and I think they'll have a winner.

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Re: Simplify3D - Anyone using it?

Thanks lawsy, this is exactly what I was looking for. 

I'm actually happy with Repetier and Slic3r, and looking forward to their updates.  I will definetly keep an eye on Simplify3D, and hopefully, they will realize that their prices are a bit out of line with the competition, and make more attractive to buyers.

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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They have most of these features now lawsy.

I would say the only thing they are missing are the repair feature
but that should be coming out soon.

Powder coated steel enclosure, 1/4" Surface grounded hardened aluminum plate, MK2A Heat bed, .200 Polished fused quartz plate, Machined quick change hot bed mount, E3D hot end, Ramps 1.4, DRV8825 stepper motor drivers

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Sorry, I probably should have said that the trial version I used for a few months ago.

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I bought this software on the web because it offers some interresting psosibilities (place supports manually for example).

My opinion: DON'T BUY IT !!!!
This software seems to be only an Alpha or Beta versions.
It took me a long time to have good parameters and it was far from perfect ...
The support are too heavy , after printing it's quite impossible to remove it without using a cutter and broke some parts of the printed model.
The way it control the printer is quite normal but you must reload the gcode each time you're stopping the print.
The preview doesn't work well for rostock printer and place the model on the right lower corner even if you centered it ?!?!?!
I let you watch the result so you can make your own opinion about this software.

The model: AT-ST left ear gun (star wars) from thingiverse, I stopped the print a few layers after the beginning, it was enough to see the differences. Same temperatures(200/80) at 0,1 mm also same infill %.
The photos are from the rostock version but the result is the same with solidoodle 2 printer.

SIMPLIFY3D:
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4231/89d0.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4231/89d0.jpg

REPETIER  + SLIC3R

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3926/s1t7.jpg
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2066/a7o1.jpg

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Hi mcbride19,

I beg to differ actually, I believe your settings may not be correct as I had issues like what you were experiencing and after spending several days with experimenting with the settings I got great parts out of the program.

Now I agree that their support system currently can use some additional settings as well as their raft however if your not using supports it's great. I've printed out objects with supports and some have failed but I find if I include supports in my model they print perfect on simplify 3d. All slicers have there perks and all have there negatives. It's great to have a couple just to make sure your part has the highest quality possible based on your machine.

Powder coated steel enclosure, 1/4" Surface grounded hardened aluminum plate, MK2A Heat bed, .200 Polished fused quartz plate, Machined quick change hot bed mount, E3D hot end, Ramps 1.4, DRV8825 stepper motor drivers

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Sorry if my opinion is different because in half a day you can find good parameters in repetier+slic3r and those soft are free.
I don't want to spend somes days to have good printing with a commercial software.
Even the support is not good enough.
125 $ for a software that is still a beta version(too much bug to consider that is a commercial version) it's too expensive.
They  also  didn't give the demo on the website(a sign ????!!)
Maybe one day it's going to be a good 3d printing software but for now it's only a demo/beta software.

I'm still conviced that people may not buy this software, repetier host, slic3r or kisslicer are free and far better than this  software.

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I just wanted to chime in with my 2 cents here. Simplify3D is definitely not ready for the every user unless you have a machine in the presets. That being said, it took me 20 minutes to setup and I haven't touched much since. I have a couple saved setups like I have in RH.

I included these photos below to show how nice the supports work. They peeled off with almost no effort. In fact, they came off much easier than the print would come off the glass. You can also see that my prints are looking just as good as in RH if not better. I also like the speed in which objects load/slice.

I would agree that this program is not meant for most people. It does not fit every situation for me yet. I split my time between Simplify3D and RH depending on the model. There are also some setups that I just haven't built yet in S3D so it may get a bigger share when I do.


http://2n2r5.com/pictures/printer/show-n-tell/statue1.jpg
http://2n2r5.com/pictures/printer/show-n-tell/statue2.jpg

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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Re: Simplify3D - Anyone using it?

Your model is quite big and seems to be print at 0,2 mm.
Just try a tiny model with more complex part and at 0,1 mm.
I had , also printed a simple model with a "normal" size and the result was OK.
But I also made more tests with diferent parameters  and models and the result wasn't still good enough.
Ok results was better with the solidoodle than with the rostock max , but in an email the programmers told me that thay had made optimisations for the rostock, so the programmers doesnt know what debugging and code optimisations is !
I worked 10 years as 3d graphic designer and used a lot of 3d softwares( some expensive , others free or low prices) all were well made only one was a mess, so  I stay on my position and confirm that this software is only a beta software, the price is too much expensive for a program like that, with only a poor forum for support, and the open source offers better, more parameters and real support.

I would be a good soft at 20/30 $ but 125 $ I call that  stealing money from people without giving them a real commercial software.

PS: great print  ! wink

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This model is about 3 inches tall at .15 layer heights.

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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I bought version 2.0.1.
Good: interesting features. Software has a good potential.
It claims to support many Printers. But there are only profiles for On the web page I found a large list of supported printers. But in the Programm I found only profiles of the following 3D printers.
Leapfrog Creatr; Makerbot Replicator 1; Makerbot Replicator 2X; Makergear  M2; Printerbot Jr; Prusa Mendel; Rostock Max
Soliddoodle 2; Soliddoodle Pro.

The thing which really annoyed me is there is no manual or help file which describes the parameters and its dependencies.
I spent a lot of time with try on error.
Jakob