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Re: Unexpected printing stop

I smell a troll

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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troll/spammer == sproll

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I'm using a Mac 10.85 with the sd4 and was having the same problems. It would print for about 5 min. and then stop, I could get it to continue by repeatably using the "fake ok"but that got old in a hurry. I noticed the X axis motor was extremely hot so I fabricated a fan mount with shroud to cool the motor with it's own power supply and it printed fine and has not stopped since. I printed up a nice mount with shroud now and it works great. What is the proper baud rate for the mac? The initial setup says to use 250,000 the mac setup says to use 115,200 and I have seen other's using something else. I don't know what baud rate means or does so if someone could help it would be great.

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Any of the higher baud rates like 115,200 or 250,000 should be fine as the SD4's mainboard will autodetect it.

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Got same problem,

Sounds like any electric arc 2 meters around the printer cause the printer to stop, tried with two diff laptop and the problem still here, even if i use cable with ferrite

Just to tell that is useless to buy an UPS i tried it and the problem is the same, on battery too

31 (edited by gushino 2014-03-03 02:00:45)

Re: Unexpected printing stop

My Solidoodle 3 has been stopping mid print anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 hours into a print lately. It is unpredictable. I tried all the other elictronic fixes suggested here and nothing has worked or has been out of order. But, just now it quit again 1.5 hours into the print and this time I checked the motors. The X axis motor is super hot and the others are only warm.

I am going to try a 35mm fan on the bottom of the motor. Maybe even a heat sink?

By the way, why is the X axis motor so small compare to all the other motors on the Solidoodle? This seems odd and unnecessary. When I design robotics, I try to keep everything uniform for ease of maintenance and consistency of performance. It is obviously being over loaded compared to the other larger motors.

Solidoodle 3, Acrylic enclosure, AC heated bed, E3D v6 hot end, board 80mm fan, X axis motor 40mm fan, witness camera mount, Z axis anti backlash assembly, Upgraded main power supply and separate 12v fans power supply.

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gushino wrote:

By the way, why is the X axis motor so small compare to all the other motors on the Solidoodle? This seems odd and unnecessary. When I design robotics, I try to keep everything uniform for ease of maintenance and consistency of performance. It is obviously being over loaded compared to the other larger motors.

It could be bigger but you must consider the additional mass that would then become an additional load for the Y-motor.  It's really a compromise of weight, torque and speed.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

33 (edited by gushino 2014-03-03 02:40:06)

Re: Unexpected printing stop

The Y axis motor is not under enough of a load difference to compared to the X axis motor to justify a much smaller over heating over loaded motor. I would think that this would have showed up in testing, especially during burn in. At least a light weight heat sink and fan should have been added is all I'm saying IMHPO.

In addition, I think that the fact that this is happening a lot now, almost every print in the last 2 days, that the motor is beginning to burn out.

Solidoodle 3, Acrylic enclosure, AC heated bed, E3D v6 hot end, board 80mm fan, X axis motor 40mm fan, witness camera mount, Z axis anti backlash assembly, Upgraded main power supply and separate 12v fans power supply.

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gushino wrote:

The Y axis motor is not under enough of a load difference to compared to the X axis motor to justify a much smaller over heating over loaded motor. I would think that this would have showed up in testing, especially during burn in. At least a light weight heat sink and fan should have been added is all I'm saying IMHPO.

I agree 100%  the first mod I ever did to my printer was to add a heat sink to that motor.  I often think I should add a fan but the heat sink that I pulled off an old PC processor has just worked so well.  I will say that a little extra mass can really screw up the ability to print at faster speeds.  I certainly can tell the difference of the Bulldog XL's extra mass vs. the original extruder.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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wardjr,

Were you having the same stoppage problem that we have been having with our printers? And if so, did the heat sink solve the issue for you?

Solidoodle 3, Acrylic enclosure, AC heated bed, E3D v6 hot end, board 80mm fan, X axis motor 40mm fan, witness camera mount, Z axis anti backlash assembly, Upgraded main power supply and separate 12v fans power supply.

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gushino wrote:

wardjr,

Were you having the same stoppage problem that we have been having with our printers? And if so, did the heat sink solve the issue for you?

No but once I enclosed the printer I had some skipping and it fixed that.  I haven't really followed your thread but my guess would be a loose connection even though you have checked all of that stuff.  Those connectors are not the best and were a constant source of frustration for me.  Go find an old PC and steal a heat sink that is about the right size.  What do you have to loose?

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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Thanks for your input wardjr. I will try your heat sink suggestion tomorrow. Which connections seem to be troublesome to you? Did you replace them?

Solidoodle 3, Acrylic enclosure, AC heated bed, E3D v6 hot end, board 80mm fan, X axis motor 40mm fan, witness camera mount, Z axis anti backlash assembly, Upgraded main power supply and separate 12v fans power supply.

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The red and blue ones for the heat cartridge and thermistor.  I did replace them all... of course not much of my printer is original at this point.  I do feel that it is important to have everything working properly before I will do a modification.  This way when something doesn't work I can only blame myself smile

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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I will try that next. Thanks again for the assistance.

Solidoodle 3, Acrylic enclosure, AC heated bed, E3D v6 hot end, board 80mm fan, X axis motor 40mm fan, witness camera mount, Z axis anti backlash assembly, Upgraded main power supply and separate 12v fans power supply.

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The USB connection can be suspect, which was what my cause was.  I was using the supplied cable from Solidoodle, but I had it plugged into the front USB.  I switched it to one on the back directly on the motherboard and I haven't had trouble since.

I'm glad you were able to fix your issue as well!

Bowden SD3, Rumba, E3D hotend, Mk5 with RtRyder changes, Direct drive Y axis and bearings, GT2 pulleys and braided fishing line, Lawsy linear bearing conversion, M3 Z screw.

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+ 1 on the power spikes, i have had a few prints ruined by the printer stopping midt print because i turned lights/oven on og off.

Solidoodle 4. Glass bed. E3D v6

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I have the same issue with stopping mid print occasionally. It wouldn't be so bad if when it happened it turned the extruder heater off, but it doesn't. The nozzle just sits there, presumably cooking ABS.

I can't trace the stoppages back to anything in particular.. Ie lights, stove, etc. it just seems random. Solidoodle support has advised me to return my power supply for exchange, but I'd really be surprised if that fixed the problem.

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I wouldn't be surprised at all.  My power supply failed last night and that is exactly what happens.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

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Really?  I would have thought there'd be other indications, like not being able to heat things to temperature or whatnot. I don't even need to power cycle to get things working again, I just have to disconnect and close RH, unplug he USB cable from the computer, plug it back in, fire up RH, and everything works again.

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Yep I had the same last night.  It has failed before and I have re-soldered the connections a couple of times but now it's just time to upgrade.

Printit Industries Model 8.10 fully enclosed CoreXY, Chamber heat
3-SD3's & a Workbench all fully enclosed, RH-Slic3r Win7pro, E3D V6, Volcano & Cyclops Hot End
SSR/500W AC Heated Glass Bed, Linear bearings on SS rods. Direct Drive Y-axis, BulldogXL
Thanks to all for your contributions

46 (edited by Ryuudan 2014-04-03 03:12:38)

Re: Unexpected printing stop

Having the exact same problem. Have my printer for over 8 months now. I recently changed extruder because of  a clog. Been printing fine for 2 weeks and then it started happening. Just randomly stops printing. Sometimes will disconnect after 3 hours, or as soon as 2 minutes. It re ally is random.

So for the past 8 months I have had none of this problem and it just started happening last week. Didnt check stepper motor temperature yet, but as the printer stopped in the very begining i suspect its not related. Didnt notice anything from other things on and off in the apartment, maybe its the neighbors fault XD. Its not sleep as it happens as i would be using the computer, and its not something else in the computer as i tested with recently restarted and nothing other then CURA open. Tested with RH and Cura with diferent settings and its still happening EVERYTIME at very random times.

Will continue to investigate as I need this printer running ASAP.
Using MacOS Lion. Standard USB cable and no mods in the printer.and im testing with the exact same STL everytime. And i already printed it several times before.