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Topic: SD3 resale price?

I would like to know what would be a good resale price for the SD3.

Thank you,

CB

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Someone just bought a SD2 with the enclosure and heated table, 1 full spool of blue ABS and 1 partial loose pile of ABS.  It was $400.
I figure that's about half of what the previous owner paid give or take.

If anything might hurt the resale value it would be the numerous highly critical reviews I've read of SoliDoodle.
I can tell that many of these people would cringe at building their own RepRap in the early days.
At this range of price you need to expect a little DIY.

Danger: 'Addams Family' sense of humor.

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delivery times are way down right now a month ago i would have told you the resale price would be around 800-900 however this week i'm seeng delivery times of 2-3 weeks. I would ssay that resale value would be between 700-800 as someone who was wanting a brand new machine doesn't have the wait they previously would

I'm sure there is some wiggle room in that price. but not much i'm sure.  If i was to sell it i'd put adds up on craigs list, possably ebay and the solidofrum and defcad.org

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jerseydevil wrote:

Someone just bought a SD2 with the enclosure and heated table, 1 full spool of blue ABS and 1 partial loose pile of ABS.  It was $400.
I figure that's about half of what the previous owner paid give or take.

If anything might hurt the resale value it would be the numerous highly critical reviews I've read of SoliDoodle.
I can tell that many of these people would cringe at building their own RepRap in the early days.
At this range of price you need to expect a little DIY.

Which reviews are you referring to? The "reviews" thread is full of nice reviews smile

Former Solidoodle employee, no longer associated with the company.

5 (edited by jerseydevil 2013-03-09 18:10:20)

Re: SD3 resale price?

solidoodlesupport wrote:
jerseydevil wrote:

Someone just bought a SD2 with the enclosure and heated table, 1 full spool of blue ABS and 1 partial loose pile of ABS.  It was $400.
I figure that's about half of what the previous owner paid give or take.

If anything might hurt the resale value it would be the numerous highly critical reviews I've read of SoliDoodle.
I can tell that many of these people would cringe at building their own RepRap in the early days.
At this range of price you need to expect a little DIY.

Which reviews are you referring to? The "reviews" thread is full of nice reviews smile

For example this:
robots-and-androids.com/solidoodle-review.html

The issue here is that this guy has gone multimedia with his complaint.  He's not just annoyed (speaking objectively) he's got pictures to support his complaint.  Gives it more impact and that's not good.  It was enough to give even me pause and I have built printers myself.

Please do keep in mind.  I have access to some very high end printers and an Up! printer myself as well (look up the price).  Reprap was about machines making more of themselves.  Making the system and leaving the end user to explore is another way to go at this.  Then there are people that are trying to make cheaper commerical printers than established companies.  I knew going in that I might find myself where I am now (fixing the 'gear' on the stepper motor for whatever reason and I am quite sure I did not cause this).  Don't get me wrong I have built my own extruders for my own unique printers I can handle this.  However, I know people that don't own a tool and unlike me are mechanically declined so I can see how someone could get annoyed for the wrong reasons.

Though as a strict matter of business it would really take some guts for someone to go into a company monitored forum and open up on the negativity.  Not saying anyone would respond the wrong way, just saying something about peeing in the well you drink from.

Danger: 'Addams Family' sense of humor.

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From reading the "review" i seems that the person was pretty annoyed when he recieved his machine. Which is a tad understandable. my machine i had problems the 1st week -2 weeks fires the filament pulley wasn't workign properly and had to be tightened and it took me a week tofigure it out and i figured it out before the SD people could and i figured out how to fix it before they did too ...no biggie

then i got a clog and that lasted for a few days untill i could take the tiem to fix it again no biggie

the thing he is forgettign is the SD in any incarnation is not a unit for everyone its for someone who knows they will ahve to do maintenace and tinker some. And anyone buyng one is goign to have to realsie this or be annoyed greatly when they have simialr problems.

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Delivery times are only reduced for the sd2.  I have a sd3 on order and this coming week will be entering the 10th week.  It's still within their stated delivery date of the machine so it's ok, I just don't want people to be misinformed.

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jerseydevil wrote:
solidoodlesupport wrote:
jerseydevil wrote:

Someone just bought a SD2 with the enclosure and heated table, 1 full spool of blue ABS and 1 partial loose pile of ABS.  It was $400.
I figure that's about half of what the previous owner paid give or take.

If anything might hurt the resale value it would be the numerous highly critical reviews I've read of SoliDoodle.
I can tell that many of these people would cringe at building their own RepRap in the early days.
At this range of price you need to expect a little DIY.

Which reviews are you referring to? The "reviews" thread is full of nice reviews smile

For example this:
robots-and-androids.com/solidoodle-review.html

The issue here is that this guy has gone multimedia with his complaint.  He's not just annoyed (speaking objectively) he's got pictures to support his complaint.  Gives it more impact and that's not good.  It was enough to give even me pause and I have built printers myself.

Please do keep in mind.  I have access to some very high end printers and an Up! printer myself as well (look up the price).  Reprap was about machines making more of themselves.  Making the system and leaving the end user to explore is another way to go at this.  Then there are people that are trying to make cheaper commerical printers than established companies.  I knew going in that I might find myself where I am now (fixing the 'gear' on the stepper motor for whatever reason and I am quite sure I did not cause this).  Don't get me wrong I have built my own extruders for my own unique printers I can handle this.  However, I know people that don't own a tool and unlike me are mechanically declined so I can see how someone could get annoyed for the wrong reasons.

Though as a strict matter of business it would really take some guts for someone to go into a company monitored forum and open up on the negativity.  Not saying anyone would respond the wrong way, just saying something about peeing in the well you drink from.

That was from an early S2. We have received absolutely no bad reviews since then. Again, check out the reviews thread from this forum.

Former Solidoodle employee, no longer associated with the company.

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Well, How much do you want?

We might be able to make a deal...

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Crazybear how much are you looking to get for your SD3, I may have a buyer.

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This forum may be "company monitored", meaning that solidoodle staff do look at the posts here, but it is not "company ran", as this forum is owned and operated independently of Solidoodle.

If you have problems and want to voice them, you will not be censored.

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Re: SD3 resale price?

solidoodlesupport wrote:

That was from an early S2. We have received absolutely no bad reviews since then. Again, check out the reviews thread from this forum.

I can only comment on the S2 as that is what I have in front of me.  I know the previous owner was okay with this unit after doing some basic adjustment and repair till he attempted to print ABS.  He felt (having had this unit before me and for much longer) that printing at the higher temperature was an issue that could be resolved with adjustment but given his access to other resources and limited time it was more logical to sell it.

So far I consider what I have in front of me to be realistically appropriate.  It is constructed better than many of the RepRaps I've seen.  It is a little more adjustable by the end user than some of the more expensive units I've seen and it seems it requires a little DIY to get it quite the way you want it.  I consider that more than fair for the price.  I have no idea about the lead times of any replacement parts but once I get this working I'll probably order a spare extruder assembly just to be on the safe side.

If I find that this unit works adequately after shake down I would consider getting more of them should my production needs require it.

Danger: 'Addams Family' sense of humor.

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Brad wrote:

This forum may be "company monitored", meaning that solidoodle staff do look at the posts here, but it is not "company ran", as this forum is owned and operated independently of Solidoodle.

If you have problems and want to voice them, you will not be censored.

Did we miss someone worried about us?

Former Solidoodle employee, no longer associated with the company.

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solidoodlesupport wrote:
Brad wrote:

This forum may be "company monitored", meaning that solidoodle staff do look at the posts here, but it is not "company ran", as this forum is owned and operated independently of Solidoodle.

If you have problems and want to voice them, you will not be censored.

Did we miss someone worried about us?

Was in response to the end of post #5.

15 (edited by DePartedPrinter 2013-03-11 04:43:39)

Re: SD3 resale price?

jerseydevil wrote:

Though as a strict matter of business it would really take some guts for someone to go into a company monitored forum and open up on the negativity.  Not saying anyone would respond the wrong way, just saying something about peeing in the well you drink from.

Bring on the negativity. This is a 3d printing community...we should be critical of everyone's printers.

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

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jerseydevil wrote:
solidoodlesupport wrote:
jerseydevil wrote:

Someone just bought a SD2 with the enclosure and heated table, 1 full spool of blue ABS and 1 partial loose pile of ABS.  It was $400.
I figure that's about half of what the previous owner paid give or take.

If anything might hurt the resale value it would be the numerous highly critical reviews I've read of SoliDoodle.
I can tell that many of these people would cringe at building their own RepRap in the early days.
At this range of price you need to expect a little DIY.

Which reviews are you referring to? The "reviews" thread is full of nice reviews smile

For example this:
robots-and-androids.com/solidoodle-review.html

The issue here is that this guy has gone multimedia with his complaint.  He's not just annoyed (speaking objectively) he's got pictures to support his complaint.  Gives it more impact and that's not good.  It was enough to give even me pause and I have built printers myself.

Please do keep in mind.  I have access to some very high end printers and an Up! printer myself as well (look up the price).  Reprap was about machines making more of themselves.  Making the system and leaving the end user to explore is another way to go at this.  Then there are people that are trying to make cheaper commerical printers than established companies.  I knew going in that I might find myself where I am now (fixing the 'gear' on the stepper motor for whatever reason and I am quite sure I did not cause this).  Don't get me wrong I have built my own extruders for my own unique printers I can handle this.  However, I know people that don't own a tool and unlike me are mechanically declined so I can see how someone could get annoyed for the wrong reasons.

Though as a strict matter of business it would really take some guts for someone to go into a company monitored forum and open up on the negativity.  Not saying anyone would respond the wrong way, just saying something about peeing in the well you drink from.


if you search out that guys name you'll see he went to just about every 3d printer site he could to rave about how many problems he was having with his machine.

which could pretty much be surmised as.

he burned himself by touching the hot bits.
he left his kids unsupervised and they burned themselves with the hot bits.
he didn't want to, or couldn't effectively clear clogs, despite the well written instructions from solidoodle, picture and video instructions from the community...

He then said that he recommended getting a different printer of the same technology, which would have exactly the same issues of clogging!

It'd be a shame if that review actually coloured peoples perceptions of the machine.

That said the machine is not without its weak bits.
It seems that the machine is pretty sensitive to things being slightly misaligned, or slightly out of tension in the belts causing missed steps in prints.
Certainly at the start there were people complaining about the heater parts breaking. (mine broke within three weeks).
but then solidoodle are listening to people complaining about these issues and fixing them, changing designs/changing parts etc.

That's probably the biggest issue for reselling the solidoodle, there isn't exactly a standard machine.

I have a solidoodle 2, but it's the type with the Glued Z rod, -rather than coupled
it's got the heatcore heater - not the cartridge heater.

I don't know what other bits have changed since the printer first went on sale, but there is a certain amount of uncertainty with seeing a printer for sale where there are seemingly a few variants of a "standard" model printer.