Topic: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
Hi, my bed is perfectly calibrated and every time I print in Simplify3D and in Repetier Host this keeps happening. I am also using white hatchbox abs. Thanks
1 2015-05-16 20:32:32 (edited by ArcticWolf_11 2015-05-16 20:33:30)
- carl_m1968
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Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:
Hi, my bed is perfectly calibrated and every time I print in Simplify3D and in Repetier Host this keeps happening. I am also using white hatchbox abs. Thanks
What is your top layer thickness/count set for and what speed or you printing at for top layer and solid infill? Also what temp are you printing at?
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Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
I don't use Repetier and can't comment on that. White is often touchy and touchiness may/will depend on maker...
Consider posting the parameters you use(d):
Layer numbers Top and Bottom
Shell numbers
Infill %
Temp of bed
Temp of nozzle
Print speed
Your file (stl)
Here's a good link that may help now or in the future
http://support.3dverkstan.se/article/23 … de#ringing
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Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
also what is the item being printed? file may have errors too.
Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs
Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
n2ri wrote:
also what is the item being printed? file may have errors too.
its a ninja star stand and it doesn't have any problems, I printed on before at my school's 3D printer
Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
carl_m1968 wrote:
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:Hi, my bed is perfectly calibrated and every time I print in Simplify3D and in Repetier Host this keeps happening. I am also using white hatchbox abs. Thanks
What is your top layer thickness/count set for and what speed or you printing at for top layer and solid infill? Also what temp are you printing at?
here is my settings config, the .fff file
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<profile name="Da Vinci Settings">
<printMaterial>PLA</printMaterial>
<printQuality>Medium</printQuality>
<extruder name="Primary Extruder">
<toolheadNumber>0</toolheadNumber>
<diameter>0.4</diameter>
<autoWidth>0</autoWidth>
<width>0.4</width>
<extrusionMultiplier>1</extrusionMultiplier>
<useRetract>1</useRetract>
<retractionDistance>2</retractionDistance>
<extraRestartDistance>0</extraRestartDistance>
<retractionZLift>0</retractionZLift>
<retractionSpeed>1800</retractionSpeed>
<useCoasting>0</useCoasting>
<coastingDistance>0.2</coastingDistance>
<useWipe>0</useWipe>
<wipeDistance>5</wipeDistance>
</extruder>
<primaryExtruder>0</primaryExtruder>
<layerHeight>0.1</layerHeight>
<topSolidLayers>3</topSolidLayers>
<bottomSolidLayers>3</bottomSolidLayers>
<perimeterOutlines>2</perimeterOutlines>
<printPerimetersInsideOut>1</printPerimetersInsideOut>
<startPointOption>2</startPointOption>
<startPointOriginX>0</startPointOriginX>
<startPointOriginY>0</startPointOriginY>
<startPointOriginZ>300</startPointOriginZ>
<sequentialIslands>0</sequentialIslands>
<spiralVaseMode>0</spiralVaseMode>
<firstLayerHeightPercentage>150</firstLayerHeightPercentage>
<firstLayerWidthPercentage>100</firstLayerWidthPercentage>
<firstLayerUnderspeed>0.75</firstLayerUnderspeed>
<useRaft>0</useRaft>
<raftExtruder>0</raftExtruder>
<raftLayers>1</raftLayers>
<raftOffset>3</raftOffset>
<raftSeparationDistance>0</raftSeparationDistance>
<raftInfill>85</raftInfill>
<disableRaftBaseLayers>0</disableRaftBaseLayers>
<useSkirt>1</useSkirt>
<skirtExtruder>0</skirtExtruder>
<skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
<skirtOutlines>4</skirtOutlines>
<skirtOffset>5</skirtOffset>
<infillExtruder>0</infillExtruder>
<externalInfillPattern>Rectilinear</externalInfillPattern>
<infillPercentage>10</infillPercentage>
<outlineOverlapPercentage>50</outlineOverlapPercentage>
<infillExtrusionWidthPercentage>100</infillExtrusionWidthPercentage>
<minInfillLength>5</minInfillLength>
<infillLayerInterval>2</infillLayerInterval>
<randomInfillStartPoint>0</randomInfillStartPoint>
<infillAngles>45,90,135,180,225,270,315,360</infillAngles>
<generateSupport>0</generateSupport>
<supportExtruder>0</supportExtruder>
<supportInfill>30</supportInfill>
<supportExtraInflation>0</supportExtraInflation>
<denseSupportLayers>0</denseSupportLayers>
<denseSupportInfill>70</denseSupportInfill>
<supportLayerInterval>1</supportLayerInterval>
<supportHorizontalPartOffset>0.3</supportHorizontalPartOffset>
<supportUpperSeparationLayers>1</supportUpperSeparationLayers>
<supportLowerSeparationLayers>1</supportLowerSeparationLayers>
<supportGridSpacing>4</supportGridSpacing>
<maxOverhangAngle>45</maxOverhangAngle>
<supportAngles>0</supportAngles>
<temperatureController name="Primary Extruder Temperature">
<temperatureNumber>0</temperatureNumber>
<isHeatedBed>0</isHeatedBed>
<relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
<relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
<stabilizeAtStartup>0</stabilizeAtStartup>
<setpoint layer="1" temperature="230"/>
<setpoint layer="2" temperature="200"/>
</temperatureController>
<temperatureController name="Heated Bed">
<temperatureNumber>2</temperatureNumber>
<isHeatedBed>1</isHeatedBed>
<relayBetweenLayers>0</relayBetweenLayers>
<relayBetweenLoops>0</relayBetweenLoops>
<stabilizeAtStartup>0</stabilizeAtStartup>
<setpoint layer="1" temperature="100"/>
<setpoint layer="10" temperature="90"/>
</temperatureController>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
</fanSpeed>
<blipFanToFullPower>0</blipFanToFullPower>
<adjustSpeedForCooling>1</adjustSpeedForCooling>
<minSpeedLayerTime>15</minSpeedLayerTime>
<minCoolingSpeedSlowdown>20</minCoolingSpeedSlowdown>
<increaseFanForCooling>0</increaseFanForCooling>
<minFanLayerTime>45</minFanLayerTime>
<maxCoolingFanSpeed>100</maxCoolingFanSpeed>
<increaseFanForBridging>1</increaseFanForBridging>
<bridgingFanSpeed>100</bridgingFanSpeed>
<use5D>1</use5D>
<relativeEdistances>0</relativeEdistances>
<allowEaxisZeroing>1</allowEaxisZeroing>
<independentExtruderAxes>0</independentExtruderAxes>
<includeM10123>0</includeM10123>
<stickySupport>1</stickySupport>
<detectArcs>0</detectArcs>
<arcReplaceG2G3>0</arcReplaceG2G3>
<arcRadialCompensation>1</arcRadialCompensation>
<gcodeXoffset>0</gcodeXoffset>
<gcodeYoffset>0</gcodeYoffset>
<gcodeZoffset>0</gcodeZoffset>
<overrideMachineDefinition>1</overrideMachineDefinition>
<machineTypeOverride>0</machineTypeOverride>
<strokeXoverride>200</strokeXoverride>
<strokeYoverride>200</strokeYoverride>
<strokeZoverride>200</strokeZoverride>
<originOffsetXoverride>0</originOffsetXoverride>
<originOffsetYoverride>0</originOffsetYoverride>
<originOffsetZoverride>0</originOffsetZoverride>
<homeXdirOverride>-1</homeXdirOverride>
<homeYdirOverride>-1</homeYdirOverride>
<homeZdirOverride>-1</homeZdirOverride>
<flipXoverride>1</flipXoverride>
<flipYoverride>-1</flipYoverride>
<flipZoverride>1</flipZoverride>
<startingGcode></startingGcode>
<layerChangeGcode></layerChangeGcode>
<toolChangeGcode></toolChangeGcode>
<endingGcode>M103 ; turn off extruder and retraction,M104 S0 ; turn off extruder,M140 S0 ; turn off bed,M107 ; turn off fan,M127 ; turn off valve,M84 ; disable motors</endingGcode>
<createX3G>0</createX3G>
<celebration>0</celebration>
<celebrationSong>Random Song</celebrationSong>
<createMB5G>0</createMB5G>
<postProcessing>{PREPEND "; total_filament = [total_filament_used]\n"}</postProcessing>
<defaultSpeed>1800</defaultSpeed>
<outlineUnderspeed>0.9</outlineUnderspeed>
<solidInfillUnderspeed>0.85</solidInfillUnderspeed>
<supportUnderspeed>0.4</supportUnderspeed>
<rapidXYspeed>2100</rapidXYspeed>
<rapidZspeed>2400</rapidZspeed>
<minBridgingArea>40</minBridgingArea>
<bridgingExtrusionMultiplier>1</bridgingExtrusionMultiplier>
<bridgingSpeedMultiplier>0.4</bridgingSpeedMultiplier>
<filamentDiameter>1.75</filamentDiameter>
<filamentPricePerKg>47</filamentPricePerKg>
<useMinPrintHeight>0</useMinPrintHeight>
<minPrintHeight>0.7</minPrintHeight>
<useMaxPrintHeight>0</useMaxPrintHeight>
<maxPrintHeight>0</maxPrintHeight>
<useDiaphragm>0</useDiaphragm>
<diaphragmLayerInterval>20</diaphragmLayerInterval>
<robustSlicing>1</robustSlicing>
<mergeAllIntoSolid>0</mergeAllIntoSolid>
<onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline>1</onlyRetractWhenCrossingOutline>
<retractBetweenLayers>1</retractBetweenLayers>
<useRetractionMinTravel>0</useRetractionMinTravel>
<retractionMinTravel>3</retractionMinTravel>
<useRetractionOozeRate>0</useRetractionOozeRate>
<retractionOozeRate>100</retractionOozeRate>
<onlyWipeOutlines>1</onlyWipeOutlines>
<toolChangeRetractionDistance>12</toolChangeRetractionDistance>
<toolChangeExtraRestartDistance>-0.7</toolChangeExtraRestartDistance>
<toolChangeRetractionSpeed>600</toolChangeRetractionSpeed>
<allowThinWallGapFill>1</allowThinWallGapFill>
<thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage>10</thinWallAllowedOverlapPercentage>
<horizontalSizeCompensation>0</horizontalSizeCompensation>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="PLA">
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="ABS">
<globalExtruderTemperature>220</globalExtruderTemperature>
<globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
<globalExtrusionMultiplier>1.0</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
</fanSpeed>
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="PVA">
<globalExtruderTemperature>195</globalExtruderTemperature>
<globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
<globalExtrusionMultiplier>1.0</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
<setpoint layer="2" speed="100"/>
</fanSpeed>
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureMaterial name="Nylon">
<globalExtruderTemperature>220</globalExtruderTemperature>
<globalBedTemperature>80</globalBedTemperature>
<globalExtrusionMultiplier>1.0</globalExtrusionMultiplier>
<fanSpeed>
<setpoint layer="1" speed="0"/>
</fanSpeed>
</autoConfigureMaterial>
<autoConfigureQuality name="Fast">
<layerHeight>0.3</layerHeight>
<topSolidLayers>3</topSolidLayers>
<bottomSolidLayers>3</bottomSolidLayers>
<skirtLayers>1</skirtLayers>
<infillPercentage>15</infillPercentage>
<supportInfill>25</supportInfill>
</autoConfigureQuality>
<autoConfigureQuality name="Medium">
</autoConfigureQuality>
<autoConfigureQuality name="High">
<layerHeight>0.1</layerHeight>
<topSolidLayers>4</topSolidLayers>
<bottomSolidLayers>4</bottomSolidLayers>
<skirtLayers>2</skirtLayers>
<infillPercentage>30</infillPercentage>
<supportInfill>40</supportInfill>
</autoConfigureQuality>
</profile>
Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
Settings and ninja star stand
Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
galaxy99 wrote:
I looked at the setup file and note there are different Temps, global is 220, and another temp is 230 (and 200). 230 is way too hot for XYZ brand filament and perhaps Hatchbox white. XYZ filament should be set not more than 220.
I was finally able to download the file and will look at it soon...
Here is the filament http://www.amazon.com/HATCHBOX-1-75mm-3 … 6M6NTBRYNX
It says *Recommended Extrusion/Nozzle Temperature 210°C - 240°C (410°F - 464°F), Use With Heated Build Platform Is Recommended*
9 2015-05-17 00:14:09 (edited by galaxy99 2015-05-17 00:34:17)
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A bit long winded but, here it goes...
I printed your part two times (printed enough of them to get past the surface in question) - photo attached. I’ll get to the problem you’re having but, first:
One of the bed temps in your file shows 100, another at 90.
In the first print I used a bed temp of 90 for first 10 layers. It did not print well in the same area yours didn’t do well. The number of layers at that surface is about 10 layers high (at H=0.2). That layer/bed temp is too hot.
Your problem is two-fold:
1 - You’re printing at a low infill density - that means the layers on top have nothing underneath to rest on so, the hot plastic just droops down into the sparse infill space and/or, as in your print, they string up into balls.
2 - Having a hot temp at the topmost layer of infill further compounds the problem. Look at #1 in photos.
I typically use 90 for the first 3 layers and 80 for the others. I printed the part again at 90/80 with infill at 30%. 30% is decent enough to demonstrate the difference… #2 in the photo.
Using Simplify3D, these are the parameters I used:
H=0.2
Layer Top = 2
Layer Btm = 2
Shells = 2
Infill = 30%
T = 220
Tbed = 90 for layers 1 thru 3
Tbed = 80 all other layers
Print speed = 2600
Rapid speed = 5000
xyz brand ABS
Suggestion(s): Increase infill, Decrease bed temp for layers of concern, Set infill parameters for random position (Simplify can do this), Change orientation to sideways or upside-down and use supports...
Beyond that, since don’t use Repetier, I’m not able to assist with other areas - hopefully others can help you…
Lastly, the various brands of filament list a range of temps but, it’s important to develop your own process parameters (including Temp’s) as machines are different and, as you can see from other posts, not all XYZ printers are equal…
Mac OSX ElCapitan
Prusa i3 (two built from kits), 1 hacked DaVinci
Solidworks for models, Netfabb to repair, Repetier/Slic3r and Simplify3D
Prusa i3 (two built from kits), 1 hacked DaVinci
Solidworks for models, Netfabb to repair, Repetier/Slic3r and Simplify3D
Re: Can anyone come and look at my print and tell me how to fix it, thanks
galaxy99 wrote:
A bit long winded but, here it goes...
I printed your part two times (printed enough of them to get past the surface in question) - photo attached. I’ll get to the problem you’re having but, first:
One of the bed temps in your file shows 100, another at 90.
In the first print I used a bed temp of 90 for first 10 layers. It did not print well in the same area yours didn’t do well. The number of layers at that surface is about 10 layers high (at H=0.2). That layer/bed temp is too hot.Your problem is two-fold:
1 - You’re printing at a low infill density - that means the layers on top have nothing underneath to rest on so, the hot plastic just droops down into the sparse infill space and/or, as in your print, they string up into balls.
2 - Having a hot temp at the topmost layer of infill further compounds the problem. Look at #1 in photos.I typically use 90 for the first 3 layers and 80 for the others. I printed the part again at 90/80 with infill at 30%. 30% is decent enough to demonstrate the difference… #2 in the photo.
Using Simplify3D, these are the parameters I used:
H=0.2
Layer Top = 2
Layer Btm = 2
Shells = 2
Infill = 30%
T = 220
Tbed = 90 for layers 1 thru 3
Tbed = 80 all other layers
Print speed = 2600
Rapid speed = 5000
xyz brand ABSSuggestion(s): Increase infill, Decrease bed temp for layers of concern, Set infill parameters for random position (Simplify can do this), Change orientation to sideways or upside-down and use supports...
Beyond that, since don’t use Repetier, I’m not able to assist with other areas - hopefully others can help you…
Lastly, the various brands of filament list a range of temps but, it’s important to develop your own process parameters (including Temp’s) as machines are different and, as you can see from other posts, not all XYZ printers are equal…
Thanks, upping the infill to 50% fixed the problem for me 