1 (edited by filamentgum 2013-01-09 19:02:35)

Topic: Can a solidoodle print these type of items? (defcad.org)

theblaze.com/stories/website-to-theblaz … -the-site/

I read this and then did some researching and solidoodle seems like its friendly to my wallet. Can a solidoodle handle printing these items or most likely not the reprap for this?

2 (edited by ysb 2013-01-09 19:09:57)

Re: Can a solidoodle print these type of items? (defcad.org)

why not ? i see no problem with this file.. i already print an AR15 handle for a kinect to move it for 3d scan..

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ysb wrote:

why not ? i see no problem with this file.. i already print an AR15 handle for a kinect to move it for 3d scan..

If you had to guess, whats the cheapest model I can get new/used to handle this? I am guessing I will have to spend around $400?

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Solidoodle will print them but they will not function as the others do.  They are printing on a industrial machine.

5 (edited by nickythegreek 2013-01-09 21:09:25)

Re: Can a solidoodle print these type of items? (defcad.org)

The regular ar15 lower is to large to print on the solidoodle (max print size 150mm x 150mm x 150mm).  So you will need to use a split version.

I have printed the AR15 grip, and half of the lower, the other half will require support structures and I have not done any support stuff yet on my solidoodle.  The support slic3r was generating was trash, I hear KISSlicer is good for support but have never used it.

there is an ongoing discussion of the topic at hand in this thread:
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/753/pres … astic-gun/

For more in-depth discussions on these issues I suggest trying out:
http://defcad.org/forum/index.php

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nickythegreek wrote:

The regular ar15 lower is to large to print on the solidoodle (max print size 150mm x 150mm x 150mm).  So you will need to use a split version.

I have printed the AR15 grip, and half of the lower, the other half will require support structures and I have not done any support stuff yet on my solidoodle.  The support slic3r was generating was trash, I hear KISSlicer is good for support but have never used it.

there is an ongoing discussion of the topic at hand in this thread:
http://www.soliforum.com/topic/753/pres … astic-gun/

For more in-depth discussions on these issues I suggest trying out:
http://defcad.org/forum/index.php


There is a version off of Defcad that has the buffer tower printed seperate which allows the rest of the receiver to fit on the bed. 

Link: http://defcad.org/ar-15-lower-receiver-turomar-version/

Print the buffer tower at .1mm no support and 100 infill

Print the rest of the receiver at .2mm no support and 100 infill

glue together...it works

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7 (edited by DePartedPrinter 2013-01-09 23:15:43)

Re: Can a solidoodle print these type of items? (defcad.org)

cmetzel wrote:

Solidoodle will print them but they will not function as the others do.  They are printing on a industrial machine.


It functions just fine off a solidoodle

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Awesome, Solidoodle it is!

Is there anything I can get cheaper than this? hxxp://store.solidoodle.com/index.php?r … duct_id=56

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Nothing really readily available at these low prices. Solidoodle is a good choice.

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Filamentgum, since you are looking for the lowest priced printer, and because solidoodle has 3 different models of the S2, I figured I should mention that you'll probably want to get at least the pro model because it has a heated bed. The AR lower is a rather long piece and will probably warp if you don't have a heated bed. I printed the lower a while back and printed it diagonally on the bed without any issues. The part fitted onto the upper with no problems.

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vince7c95 wrote:

Filamentgum, since you are looking for the lowest priced printer, and because solidoodle has 3 different models of the S2, I figured I should mention that you'll probably want to get at least the pro model because it has a heated bed. The AR lower is a rather long piece and will probably warp if you don't have a heated bed. I printed the lower a while back and printed it diagonally on the bed without any issues. The part fitted onto the upper with no problems.


Even with the heated bed, I highly recommend the use of abs glue when printing the lower.  I had warping problems without it.

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Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

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DePartedPrinter, what do you mean when you said to use abs glue when printing? Are you spreading on a coat of abs glue onto the bed?

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So if you guys had to guess, what would be my total budget to get started printing these items with all the basic materials needed for 3d printing in general from tape to exacto knife to filament? 500 for the printer and then 100 for other materials.. ~600?

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Filamentgum, I would put aside a little bit more than 600. Like I said earlier, unless you have some other way of preventing warping you're gonna need a model with a heated bed. Then there's filament which can be like 30 to 50 bux plus shipping and handling for everything. I wouldn't think you would necessarily need to buy tape and exactos, but if you're looking to get a whole kit going I'll tell you what I keep on hand: tape, exacto, spare hot end (the peek, barrel, nozzle, heating element assembly), allen wrenches, open end wrenches, small hand files, scraper, small flat head screw driver, high E string from guitar, feeler gauges, tooth brush or small brush that can fit into extruder area to clean drive gear, multimeter, and a small caliper.

I'm sure this is over kill but that's what I have accumulated into my print station. I can't really tell you a price as I already had some of these things on hand, but hopefully this helps you out. Perhaps someone else can tell you the bare essentials, but it also depends on whether you like to tinker with your toys or leave them stock.

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vince7c95 wrote:

DePartedPrinter, what do you mean when you said to use abs glue when printing? Are you spreading on a coat of abs glue onto the bed?

Yes.

Note: When I refer to abs glue I am referring to homemade abs glue(plastic abs scraps dissolved in acetone). Do some searching and you will find better directions.

SD2 with E3D, SD Press, Form 1+
Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

16 (edited by DePartedPrinter 2013-01-13 06:55:30)

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filamentgum wrote:

So if you guys had to guess, what would be my total budget to get started printing these items with all the basic materials needed for 3d printing in general from tape to exacto knife to filament? 500 for the printer and then 100 for other materials.. ~600?

If I had to take a guess I'd say your way over your head on getting into this. Especially since your first question was "can I print a gun with this printer?"

There is a lot more to it than simply clicking print...

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Filastruder
NYLON (taulman): http://www.soliforum.com/topic/466/nylon/

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No way this guy has it all figured out. The Solidoodle is the first and only printer that can print fully functional guns, ammo, night vision goggles, and tactical beards. Gun manufacturers have always wanted to make guns out of the hardest and most durable substance known to man, ABS plastic but until now they had no way to do it. So now the only thing keeping this guy from starting his own badass militia is the 12 to 20 week wait time.

Also, before anyone else asks you can also use the Solidoodle to download a car.

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STL for the tactical beard, please?

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^ +1

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DePartedPrinter wrote:
filamentgum wrote:

So if you guys had to guess, what would be my total budget to get started printing these items with all the basic materials needed for 3d printing in general from tape to exacto knife to filament? 500 for the printer and then 100 for other materials.. ~600?

If I had to take a guess I'd say your way over your head on getting into this. Especially since your first question was "can I print a gun with this printer?"

There is a lot more to it than simply clicking print...

You are wrong. I asked if I can print the items off that website such as grips and sighting tools. Where did I ask about printing a gun? And what gun are you speaking of that can be printed or has the link/file/page?

21 (edited by filamentgum 2013-01-15 16:07:31)

Re: Can a solidoodle print these type of items? (defcad.org)

chuk wrote:

No way this guy has it all figured out. The Solidoodle is the first and only printer that can print fully functional guns, ammo, night vision goggles, and tactical beards. Gun manufacturers have always wanted to make guns out of the hardest and most durable substance known to man, ABS plastic but until now they had no way to do it. So now the only thing keeping this guy from starting his own badass militia is the 12 to 20 week wait time.

Also, before anyone else asks you can also use the Solidoodle to download a car.

hehe you are funny!
http://i.imgur.com/EA3GI.jpg

please make more joke/sarcastic posts tongue

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vince7c95 wrote:

Filamentgum, I would put aside a little bit more than 600. Like I said earlier, unless you have some other way of preventing warping you're gonna need a model with a heated bed. Then there's filament which can be like 30 to 50 bux plus shipping and handling for everything. I wouldn't think you would necessarily need to buy tape and exactos, but if you're looking to get a whole kit going I'll tell you what I keep on hand: tape, exacto, spare hot end (the peek, barrel, nozzle, heating element assembly), allen wrenches, open end wrenches, small hand files, scraper, small flat head screw driver, high E string from guitar, feeler gauges, tooth brush or small brush that can fit into extruder area to clean drive gear, multimeter, and a small caliper.

I'm sure this is over kill but that's what I have accumulated into my print station. I can't really tell you a price as I already had some of these things on hand, but hopefully this helps you out. Perhaps someone else can tell you the bare essentials, but it also depends on whether you like to tinker with your toys or leave them stock.

sweet thanks!

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filamentgum wrote:

You are wrong. I asked if I can print the items off that website such as grips and sighting tools. Where did I ask about printing a gun? And what gun are you speaking of that can be printed or has the link/file/page?

The article you linked in your first post has a picture of a lower receiver. That is, for legal purposes, the trackable part of a gun.

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filamentgum wrote:
DePartedPrinter wrote:
filamentgum wrote:

So if you guys had to guess, what would be my total budget to get started printing these items with all the basic materials needed for 3d printing in general from tape to exacto knife to filament? 500 for the printer and then 100 for other materials.. ~600?

If I had to take a guess I'd say your way over your head on getting into this. Especially since your first question was "can I print a gun with this printer?"

There is a lot more to it than simply clicking print...

You are wrong. I asked if I can print the items off that website such as grips and sighting tools. Where did I ask about printing a gun? And what gun are you speaking of that can be printed or has the link/file/page?


...right

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Filastruder
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DePartedPrinter wrote:
filamentgum wrote:
DePartedPrinter wrote:

If I had to take a guess I'd say your way over your head on getting into this. Especially since your first question was "can I print a gun with this printer?"

There is a lot more to it than simply clicking print...

You are wrong. I asked if I can print the items off that website such as grips and sighting tools. Where did I ask about printing a gun? And what gun are you speaking of that can be printed or has the link/file/page?


...right

C'mon, guys, give him a break.

After all prop weaponry is big business in the cosplay world and the ability to print off plastic replicas can be money in the bank.  I feel that any application is based on the ability of the machine to reproduce a facsimile.  Can you build a working replica?  Probably.  Would it blow up in your hand?  Most likely.  BUT it's still the producers wish to create an object.

Gotta tell ya, I've got some ideas for cosplayers (of whom I know quite a few) to produce props and see if there's a market.  Some of them probably don't know the tech exists in cheap form, so I may be able sneak in an avenue of revenue for their needs.

Filamentgum... do what you're going to do and don't be limited by what others say.

That being said... the $600 dollar figure is about right and that would get you a machine and some base filament to start.  That is the beginning of your education.  You'll probably need to spend quite a bit more in time (and some money for more filament) learning the ins-and-outs of the machine and maintenance, tweaking the settings for clean prints, and upgrades (oh, yes, you'll want to mod that piece of machinery if only to make your printing life simpler).

Learn what you can when you can from here and don't worry about the words being said in this thread.  I still think this is one of the best sites (though google groups is better in the more technical aspects) to learn about this machine.