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Topic: Changing Configuration Issues

I've been working with the .1MM configuration file and wanted to change to the .3MM configuration file. I followed the instructions given on the Solidoodle website for the inital setup. Basically I went into Slic3r, hit Setup and browsed to the location of the Solidoodle2.3MM.ini file. Then clicked OK.

What happens is the Print Settings, Printer Settings and Extruder 1 drop down boxes go blank. As far as I can tell this configure file is not being used.

Any input on this?

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Re: Changing Configuration Issues

Click the little save button next to the blank drop down and give it a name. It should appear in repetier as a preset and should save in the slic3r config too.

3 (edited by Irish 2012-12-23 21:17:59)

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Sorry, BotBot, there is no 'save' button on the Setup popup in Scli3r. Only two browse buttons. One beside each of the file location entries. These can't be applied manually. Then there are OK and Cancel at the bottom. That's it.

I'm using version V0.82b of Repetier-host and version 0.9.7 of Slic3r.

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On the Slic3r configure pop up, press CTR-  L and find the ini file you want.

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PCpoirier, yes, and that fills the 3 drop down boxes at the bottom. BUT, there is NO SAVE BUTTON anywhere and on exiting that screen nothing shows in the Slic3r drop downs so you have no idea what configure file is being used.

If, as I did to set things up first, I go by the Solidoodle instructions and use the Setup screent to choose the default Configure file it should show in the drop downs on the main Slic3r screen when I return there but it doesn't. It did when I first set things up.

Note: I'm doing this on two different PC computers and both are coming back with the same results. Only one is hooked to the SD2 and to set things up the SD2 doesn't need to be connnected anyway at least as far as I know.

Thanks for the input. I feel like I'm taking one step forward and two steps back with this stuff. I've worked with micro-computers for over 25 years so I'm not exactly new at them. [grin]

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Re: Changing Configuration Issues

I had the same issue until I updated slic3r; the config had no save option and my SD would print with default settings (.5 mm nozzle, .4 resolution- ugly).Updating to slic3r 0.87 fixed this immediately

Grand Rapids, Michigan
SD2 with Sanguinololu board, glass bed mod, E3d_v5 bowden version hotend (currently direct drive), Lawsy Mk5 jigsaw replacement, octopi printserver, drv8825(tiny troubles)

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I had the same issue until I updated slic3r from 0.83; the config had no save option and my SD would print with default settings (.5 mm nozzle, .4 resolution- ugly).Updating to slic3r 0.87 fixed this immediately- don't remember what my Repetier/ Slic3r versions are now, but I know I did not update to the latest on slic3r.

Grand Rapids, Michigan
SD2 with Sanguinololu board, glass bed mod, E3d_v5 bowden version hotend (currently direct drive), Lawsy Mk5 jigsaw replacement, octopi printserver, drv8825(tiny troubles)

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Thanks Coleke, I've had the update popups but figured I better stay with what SD recommended. There was at least one program they warned about the new version giving issues but I think that was Arduino. Fact I think it's that one that keeps popping up for updates.

I hate to say it but I'm starting to imagine a lot of these type units sitting on the shelves of Goodwill in a five years or so. [grin] My first micro-computer, a Heathkit H8, was 5,000 solder joints but at least it ran once you got it assembled. [chuckle]

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I'm on 0.97 which is the latest they advertise on their website.

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Simple fact is Slic3r is NOT using the settings in the INI file I designate. Everything is there, I've checked it. But, when I slice a STL file none of the Start Code is there. This is the Start code talked about in another thread for making an Anchor and all. The INI file must be present in the main Slic3r screen where it's activated.

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Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling?

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Devilman 2025 - That's what my plan is in the morning, if I get time. I'm most likely going to need to go to the walk-in-clinic to get some meds for this flu.

Right now I have the software individually installed on two machines but I also have a file server system here and I think maybe I'll install the program there and just link to it on the individual computers. That way I'm using the same INI files. It doesn install anything to the OS registry so it should be OK over there.

What I was trying to do was switch back to .3MM from .1MM. I'd love to know if anyone else has successfully done this with no issues or if they have had the same issues I've had. I find it strange that even when set up and operating OK they have drop-downs that have no real purpose. Sort of like a feature that wasn't implimented.

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There is no save dialog in the main Plater page, you have to go over to the settings tabs-

http://solidoodletips.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/slic3r.jpg

If there is no floppy disc icon in the settings tabs, then that is weird.  You have to CTRL-L to load the profile which adds it to the three drop downs as you saw.  Then switch to the settings tabs and hit the save (floppy) buttons for each one.  After this you still need to select the settings from the pull down menus in Repetier, because Repetier doesn't know what you have been doing in the Slic3r GUI.

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Yes Ian, I've done this and made all the changes in each of the tabs and saved each one to the correct INI file. I then downed the software and brought it back up.  Checked to see that it was using the correct setting. But, when I Sliced a file and looked at the slicer code things weren't there that should have been and the sliced job ran totally wacko.

One thing I did was add that Start Code discussed in another thread to the Custom Gcode area. That was not in the Sliced file at all.

The Floppy Icon is there in that area and works correctly by questioning on the file I wanted to save to 'Solidoodle2.3MM.ini'. But, when you go to SETUP not Configure, all the drop down boxes are empty and the ones at the top pertaining to the set up are even greyed out. Yes I used Ctrl-L to load the config INI but when sliced I get the same results.

Best bet is to delete all software, I have copies of the original files sstored on the server. I'll just copies those over to the program area and restart as is it's a new set up. Something got changed in the system somewhere but where who knows.

Thanks for the input.

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Don't use Setup, despite what they say.  I wish they hadn't included that method, because it can get confusing.  Use Setup to point to the exe that you want to use.  If you are trying a different version of Slic3r, then you want to use Setup to point it to that version, otherwise leave it alone and keep the configuration directory blank, leaving Repetier to do whatever it wants.

Use Configure to open Slic3r, CTRL-L to open up the .ini and save the tabs.  Then make sure you select the newly saved profiles in Repetier before hitting Slice with Slic3r.  Usually when this kind of thing happens, it is because the user has made new profiles in Slic3r, but didn't select those new profiles in Repetier.  Otherwise it may be a two different directories are being used to save profiles somehow, which is why you should leave it blank in Setup.

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RH is the problem...I have been saying for a couple weeks that the latest version of RH won't always load Slic3r settings properly on all PC setup (something seems to hang in memory).  I will test today and find out what version is bug free and move back to that for the time being.

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Well, glad we're getting on the same page. [grin] The fact that the INI file is not showing up in the drop-down boxes on the Slicer tab makes be believe that RH is loading the Default.INI file instead of the loaded through Ctl-L. My reason for thinking this is that all that Custom G-Code is missing from the Slic3r file when it finishes.

18 (edited by jefferysanders 2012-12-24 17:19:51)

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I can confirm that using .72 RH with Slic3r 0.9.7 works properly for me on my system.  I am not seeing the random poor quality.  I don't load anyone's configs, I just mimic their settings and see great results, outside of your printer specific calibrations I hope this helps anyone seeing this problem.

TLDR:  Use old Repetier-Host and new Slic3r 0.9.7 to temp. remedy odd config loading issues, but you will/could re-introduce older bugs/issues.  I am having trouble now with it heating the bed.  I know my bed hardware is perfect so...GO figure...

What OS are you using?

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Jeffery, It worked OK for me too until I tried to change the INI file from .1MM to .3MM one. From then on it deteriated and now I'm totally removing the softare and reinstalling it. Sometimes, that's the only solution.

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It seems to have something to do with my admin privileges/account setup on windows 8 as well.

21 (edited by Irish 2012-12-25 22:49:32)

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OK, I deleted the program totally and cleaned out the registry... That was the ONLY way to clean things up. Every effort to reinstall ended in failure. After reinstalling the Repitier-Host software I went to Slic3r Configure and Ctrl-L'd in the 'solidoodle2.3.MM.ini' file. It would not load it into the printer area and would not save an changes to printer tab to that INI file. Frustrated I quit for a while and shut it all down.

After a bit I came back to it and it was still set the same way so I did the Ctrl=L again and this time it loaded the Printer area???? OK, it even saved the Custom G Code to the Solidoodle2.3MM.INI file... [don't celebrate yet]

I then loaded an STL file and hit Slice with Slic3r and it started then poped an error message saying it couldn't find the file Composition.gCode in the named location.

On reading the Solidoodle2.3.MM.INI file there is a dynamic variable there for this [Input_Filename_Base].gcode and in the error message it's looking in a particular user area directory. I found a copy of the file and copied it there but on exicution of the next Slic3r action it was deleted and the error popped up again. NOTE: The copy I found was in the TEMP directory of the drive, not the user area, and was what I believe to be the correct file as the date and time matched.

I'm trying to find out where this variable is set and if there is anyway of changing it if need? Or, does someone have an answer to how to fix this problem?

22 (edited by jefferysanders 2012-12-26 01:48:24)

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Try using the run as admin in the apps properties.

The only place RH stores files is in the program directory and user>app data (hidden before editing privileges)> Local (you can check the other app data folders as well to get rid of slic3r.  Also make sure you check default user(s) and other account folders.  It is really buggy for me on 1 of my 3 computers I tested it on...which happens to have windows 8 and I run as standard user.  (Windows 8 is pretty clunky)

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Jeffery, Yes, I did install as 'admin' so that might just be the answer. I'm using my laptop for the SD2 and that runs Win7 which is the pitts compared to Win XP Pro which I have on the other machines. Even deleting a program or searching for something is Hell in complarison. Such is life as we more forward. [grin]

I have a Maker-Bot Rep 2 on order but after going through all this with the SD2 and then reading their forums and seeing all the issues they are having I realize it's not worth paying over six times more for the same issues. I'll be canceling that order tomorrow. I'll use the SD2 to proof-concept pieces then have the final printing done at Shapeways. I need very concise finished pieces so that's the best way to go.

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We can't get the quality of the 50k+$ printers they have for sure, but I agree it is a great platform to build prototypes on; also good for building light weight structural parts that are hidden.  You can always build the parts for a stereo-lithography printer as they seem pretty simple to construct (not sure about calibration or software,  but I think pronterface can handle that approach to printing) and that would yield prints with very high quality.  Makerbot's are gimmicky printers that try to appeal to the subcultures by promoting their nerdy style...Build a MendalMax and you get way more to play with (nozzles, extruders, fans, etc) + free support from real nerds.  I think the biggest limitation of the SD2 is the extruder, it really can't do much other than vinyl (untested), ABS (be careful of quality), PLA, and mabey PVA. (kinda pointless without dual extruders)

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I have a friend out East that has a Maker-Bot Replicator (kit). He's sent me some really good miniture samples and if he could do those constantly I'd be more interested in the Replicator 2. Thing is, it isn't consistant. He took a STL file of mine and after four attempts came "close to the ball park" so to speak but not something I could use. I can't afford that kind of time investment. I need a machine that will produce consistantly once the settings are dialed in. I don't feel any of the low cost units are even close on this. As to Maker-Bot support, I don't see anyone over on their forum bragging about it, fact just the opposite. The Zcorp 350 is what I need but there is no way I could justify the cost. My volume needs don't even come close to recouping 30-40K. I won't brag that Shapeways is the best either as I've seen their screwups sent out as finished product to a friend. But, right now they are the best deal in town until I find another one. [grin]