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Topic: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

I have had my DaVinci 1.0 for about 4 days now. When I first opened it, I tried to print the demo but it was messed up along the Y-axis. I tried to calibrate it but it said it failed. The last two measurements were tried to be taken on the heated bed itself. I later found that the screws holding the Y-axis were loose. Now I have it giving me fails, but at least all of the values are numbers. I tried many, many times to rotate the screws on the heating bed to make them match, but to no avail.

The images that I have link are all at the same time. It says the the first value is +395 but there is no visible difference. I have tried to use "ddd. stefanomenci .com" (without spaces)  but again, to no avail. What should I do now?

Thanks in advance,
Andrew

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Use this Android app to get a pass .... http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00L … =mas_ya_dp
It should work after 2 or 3 trys at most.
Then forget about the auto calibration and use the manual method as described here .... http://www.soliforum.com/topic/8408/bed … beginners/

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scobo wrote:

Use this Android app to get a pass ....
.....
It should work after 2 or 3 trys at most.

First off, I don't have an Android. sad

scobo wrote:

Then forget about the auto calibration and use the manual method as described here ....

I have read the post before, but I will try to do it.

Thanks,
Andrew

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If the "Bed Leveling for Beginers" doesn't work for me, and if you have the app, maybe I could send you the numbers and you tell me how many times I need to rotate? No pressure!

Thanks,
Andrew

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In that case, I would do the manual paper method first. That should get you close to what the auto cal expects.
Then run auto cal and adjust the bed till you get a pass.
Finally, repeat the paper method till you get a nice "squished" first layer.
You shouldn't need to bother with auto cal again, just level the bed manually if it goes slightly off.
I was doing it that way before I discovered the app and it worked well.

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AndrewMast wrote:

If the "Bed Leveling for Beginers" doesn't work for me, and if you have the app, maybe I could send you the numbers and you tell me how many times I need to rotate? No pressure!

Thanks,
Andrew

Yeah, no problem. smile

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Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

AndrewMast wrote:

Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew


That is where you made your mistake. If you read my method correctly it told you specifically never to run auto cal again after you get a pass.

Run auto cal once till you get a pass. It does not matter what the values are. It is simply to store a value that the printer sees as a pass.  Once you get a pass then use the paper method and never run auto cal again. The issue with auto cal is that it does not know your print height and that is critical in determining your correct bed height. The height should be half of your print height. A sheet of paper puts you around .15mm which is good for most print heights unless you go below .2 which is for the most part useless and you are printing artistic objects.

Also the numbers are reversed from the screws so that adds to it's complexity. The number are from left to right A, B, C, the screws are actually  A= Back right, B=Front Center, and C=Back Left.

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9 (edited by AndrewMast 2014-12-24 15:02:04)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

carl_m1968 wrote:
AndrewMast wrote:

Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew


That is where you made your mistake. If you read my method correctly it told you specifically never to run auto cal again after you get a pass.

Run auto cal once till you get a pass. It does not matter what the values are. It is simply to store a value that the printer sees as a pass.  Once you get a pass then use the paper method and never run auto cal again. The issue with auto cal is that it does not know your print height and that is critical in determining your correct bed height. The height should be half of your print height. A sheet of paper puts you around .15mm which is good for most print heights unless you go below .2 which is for the most part useless and you are printing artistic objects.

Also the numbers are reversed from the screws so that adds to it's complexity. The number are from left to right A, B, C, the screws are actually  A= Back right, B=Front Center, and C=Back Left.

Sorry, I didn't understand. I will do it again. What is a pass? (PS: I just got started in the 3D printing area)

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10 (edited by carl_m1968 2014-12-24 15:01:18)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

AndrewMast wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:
AndrewMast wrote:

Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew


That is where you made your mistake. If you read my method correctly it told you specifically never to run auto cal again after you get a pass.

Run auto cal once till you get a pass. It does not matter what the values are. It is simply to store a value that the printer sees as a pass.  Once you get a pass then use the paper method and never run auto cal again. The issue with auto cal is that it does not know your print height and that is critical in determining your correct bed height. The height should be half of your print height. A sheet of paper puts you around .15mm which is good for most print heights unless you go below .2 which is for the most part useless and you are printing artistic objects.

Also the numbers are reversed from the screws so that adds to it's complexity. The number are from left to right A, B, C, the screws are actually  A= Back right, B=Front Center, and C=Back Left.

Sorry, but I didn't understand. I will do it again. What is a pass? (PS: I just got started in the 3D printing area)

If you get all three values to within 20 of each other the machine should give you a PASS or a single value depending on your firmware version. The vales you want should be in the low to mid 200's. That is the range the machine is programmed to be acceptable. But that range is actually wrong for printing so this is why we set the machine for that range but then do the paper method. The machine still thinks it is operating in the set range while it is actually operating at the values we set with paper.

The values represent the space between the nozzle and the bed at those 3 points. For example a value on the display of 235 would be .235mm. The machine will also round to the nearest .10 or .5 depending on the firmware as well so that in addition is another variance that cause the value to be wrong for actual printing.

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11 (edited by scobo 2014-12-24 15:07:40)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

AndrewMast wrote:

Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew

A pass is when the LCD screen on the printer says "calibration success".

Here you go ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/imagejpg1_zpsa306b419.jpg

I set it for a target of 205 but you'll probably get a higher pass than that. Doesn't matter, so long as it passes.
And like I say, you might need to try 2 or 3 times before it works so let me know if you need another set of adjustment values.

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12 (edited by AndrewMast 2014-12-24 15:06:34)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

carl_m1968 wrote:
AndrewMast wrote:
carl_m1968 wrote:

That is where you made your mistake. If you read my method correctly it told you specifically never to run auto cal again after you get a pass.

Run auto cal once till you get a pass. It does not matter what the values are. It is simply to store a value that the printer sees as a pass.  Once you get a pass then use the paper method and never run auto cal again. The issue with auto cal is that it does not know your print height and that is critical in determining your correct bed height. The height should be half of your print height. A sheet of paper puts you around .15mm which is good for most print heights unless you go below .2 which is for the most part useless and you are printing artistic objects.

Also the numbers are reversed from the screws so that adds to it's complexity. The number are from left to right A, B, C, the screws are actually  A= Back right, B=Front Center, and C=Back Left.

Sorry, but I didn't understand. I will do it again. What is a pass? (PS: I just got started in the 3D printing area)

If you get all three values to within 20 of each other the machine should give you a PASS or a single value depending on your firmware version. The vales you want should be in the low to mid 200's. That is the range the machine is programmed to be acceptable. But that range is actually wrong for printing so this is why we set the machine for that range but then do the paper method. The machine still thinks it is operating in the set range while it is actually operating at the values we set with paper.

The values represent the space between the nozzle and the bed at those 3 points. For example a value on the display of 235 would be .235mm. The machine will also round to the nearest .10 or .5 depending on the firmware as well so that in addition is another variance that cause the value to be wrong for actual printing.

Ok so:
1). I start a print, as it squirts the filament out, power it off.
2). Level it with your paper method.
3). Turn it back on and run "Home Axes"
4). Print something.

Right?

Thanks for your help!
Andrew

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Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

scobo wrote:
AndrewMast wrote:

Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew

A pass is when the LCD screen on the printer says "calibration success".

Here you go ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/imagejpg1_zpsa306b419.jpg

I set it for a target of 205 but you'll probably get a higher pass than that. Doesn't matter, so long as it passes.
And like I say, you might need to try 2 or 3 times before it works so let me know if you need another set of adjustment values.

Thanks! I am calibrating right now. If this doesn't work, then I will use Carl's way.

-Andrew

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The app seems to get more accurate the more you run it. Took me 3 goes but saved hours of messing about trying to guess how much to adjust.

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15 (edited by AndrewMast 2014-12-24 15:26:03)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

AndrewMast wrote:
scobo wrote:
AndrewMast wrote:

Well, the paper method didn't work for me. My three numbers after doing the paper method are "+425, +275, +185". Could you tell me how many turns I would need to do for A, B, and C?

Thanks,
Andrew

A pass is when the LCD screen on the printer says "calibration success".

Here you go ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/imagejpg1_zpsa306b419.jpg

I set it for a target of 205 but you'll probably get a higher pass than that. Doesn't matter, so long as it passes.
And like I say, you might need to try 2 or 3 times before it works so let me know if you need another set of adjustment values.

Thanks! I am calibrating right now. If this doesn't work, then I will use Carl's way.

-Andrew

Yay! Much closer! "+165, +195, +205" Wish there was an app for iOS sad

Thanks again,
Andrew

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Here's the next set of adjustments based on your new figures ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/Screenshot_2014-12-24-15-41-20_zpslqfc6dwd.png

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scobo wrote:

Here's the next set of adjustments based on your new figures ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/Screenshot_2014-12-24-15-41-20_zpslqfc6dwd.png

Calibrating again...

Thanks so much!

-Andrew

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18 (edited by AndrewMast 2014-12-24 16:55:35)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

Closer.. I think! The values are "+205, +105, +215"

Now I really wish they had the app online or for iOS!

Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

Ok, hopefully this next set of adjustments should get you fixed ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/Screenshot_2014-12-24-16-59-30_zpskwlfqmxz.png

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Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

You also need to make sure that the metal tab on each of the 3 corners are clean. I have found that if there is any dust or anything even if it is small enough to not see it that can cause the numbers to be way off. I always clean the 3 corners after each attempt.

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scobo wrote:

Ok, hopefully this next set of adjustments should get you fixed ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/Screenshot_2014-12-24-16-59-30_zpskwlfqmxz.png

I hope so too. I am currently calibrating. I noticed that some of your makes on thingiverse has acetone vapour smoothing. How do you do that?

Thanks,
Andrew

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NO!!!! It's still off! "+215, +335, +205" Sorry, I hope I'm not asking too much.

-Andrew

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I use a cheap steamer.
I sometimes do some light sanding first if required.
Pour a small amount of acetone in the steamer (about 10ml), switch on for about 1 to 1.5 minutes then leave for another 5 minutes to allow the vapour to disperse.
Remove from steamer but don't touch the print and leave for around 4-5 hours to allow the ABS to continue smoothing and solidify.
The timings may need tweaked depending on the size of the part and the layer height used.

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24 (edited by carl_m1968 2014-12-24 17:42:25)

Re: XYZ Printing DaVinci Calibration Errors

AndrewMast wrote:

NO!!!! It's still off! "+215, +335, +205" Sorry, I hope I'm not asking too much.

-Andrew


Are you sure you only turned the middle screw a half turn to your left? The value has almost doubled in the wrong direction. Turning to the left or clockwise when viewed over head raises the bed which lowers the value. Turning a screw to your right or counter clockwise when viewed over head lowers the bed and increases the value. The thing to remember is the bed pivots on screw B so moving screw A will have a slight opposite affect on screw C and viceversa. If A goes down C will rise slightly, if A goes up then C will lower slightly so you can't adjust one screw only. If you Adjust A, then you will most likely need to move screw C in the opposite direction by about half the turns. Thats why you must make sure you do the exact number of turns the image is showing and in the correct direction that the arrow is pointing.

I cant do screen shots but based on your current values you need to turn back right .29 turns counter clockwise or away from you. Front middle .92 turns or 1 full turn to the your right or counter clockwise. Then back left needs 2.12 or 2 full turns clockwise or away from you. When I refer to a direction I refer to the open edge of the screw that your finger touches.

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AndrewMast wrote:

NO!!!! It's still off! "+215, +335, +205" Sorry, I hope I'm not asking too much.

-Andrew

No worries, we'll get you there.
Try this ....

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/Screenshot_2014-12-24-17-40-23_zps7sotjhkf.png

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