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Topic: A little help?

I'm having a little problem slicing a part.
I added 2 guiding holes onto a successfully printable design, and now when it is done slicing, it displays the original without the guides. For some reason I can't repair it in Netfabb, and I've tried several different approaches in Sketchup for the same design.
I'm including the .stl and .skp if anyone wanted to take a stab at it.

Thanks in advance for your time!

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2 (edited by wire10ga 2014-10-14 23:36:53)

Re: A little help?

Try this

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Re: A little help?

are the guides supposed to be half moon holes? if not they need pulled out of mount some as they would loose the support material or take space in mount area

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Re: A little help?

Wire10ga - THANKS! May I ask what I did wrong or how it was repaired?

n2ri wrote:

are the guides supposed to be half moon holes? if not they need pulled out of mount some as they would loose the support material or take space in mount area

Thanks for the tip. I will try that on my next design.

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5 (edited by wire10ga 2014-10-15 00:09:54)

Re: A little help?

No problem, Glad I could help out.
Not sure but netfab showed the guides a differ color than the main body. I ran the stl through my netfab private and it fixed it up easy peasy smile

I did open the skp and ran solid inspector tool for skecthup.  It showed a few errors that needs to be fixed. But since Netfab fixed it I did not really mess with the skp.

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6 (edited by pirvan 2014-10-15 23:44:16)

Re: A little help?

AZERATE wrote:

Wire10ga - THANKS! May I ask what I did wrong or how it was repaired?

n2ri wrote:

are the guides supposed to be half moon holes? if not they need pulled out of mount some as they would loose the support material or take space in mount area

Thanks for the tip. I will try that on my next design.

I usually use NetFabb and do a manual repair.  Here is a step-by-step on how to do this:

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=6493

Right Click on the model, then select EXTRAS, Repair part. on the upper tool bar select shell selector.  Click the Red body, then click the "flip triangles" icon on the toolbar.  This flips your main body surface triangles which were inverted (red)

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=6494

Rotate model so you can see the bottom.  The red traingles shouldn't be there, it should be open.  Select the surface selector in the tool bar, then click on the "remove selected triangles" icon.

Zoom in on the piece so you can get a better view of the inside of your guide.  It too has a flipped surface.  Select the "surface selector" tool, then click on the  "flip triangles" icon.

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=6495

Now you're left with a few open edges and holes (yellow dashed lines).  Rotate model so you can get a better view. Select "stitch triangles" from the actions tab. then click OK on the popup window.  This will get rid of the open edges around the square opening.  NOTE:  If you were to click on "close holes" instead, you would have refilled the opening.

Next click on the close holes, to close the remaining holes of the model.  All the yellow lines are now gone, and the model is clean.  Click on apply repair and Yes on the remove old part.

Done!

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Re: A little help?

Thanks for the step-by-step info.  Never hurts to learn the correct way to fix a stl.

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8 (edited by n2ri 2014-10-16 03:07:08)

Re: A little help?

very cool! thanks. need more like this those youtube guides are impossible to follow fast as they go.
how do you insert pics instead of just uploading links? thats what I cant figure out. cant even find how to seperate parts of quotes or add more than 1 in post

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Re: A little help?

Thank you very much Pirvan!

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I would very much like to see this in the WIKI.
NICE JOB!

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Re: A little help?

This particular approach works on some but not all models.  The best thing to do is examine the model and see what looks out of place.  NetFabb will have the errors highlighted: red for flipped triangles, dashes yellow lines for open edges.

If you guys want, I can do some tutorials on how to use some of the NetFabb tools to fix or alter models.  This is a pretty powerful tool that unfortunately ends up being used at it's most basic level, and I think most of us would benefit from getting more out it.

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12 (edited by n2ri 2014-10-16 22:47:53)

Re: A little help?

yes. at least how to use the free version to best of its ability. I have several models others made and didnt line up corners etc to make a closed layer but had some edges just a bit off and look closed. the default fixes dont fix these right and mostly just fill in the voids. this is an easy error when using Sketchup to design things it seems. its like designing in 123Design and forgetting to group parts that need to be made as 1.

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13 (edited by n2ri 2014-10-16 22:55:43)

Re: A little help?

LMAO just reread my post and cant believe I wrote it like I know how to use all those apps that I never heard of a year ago. Im still in the pull my hair out stage learning to use all these programs we have to use, in order to muddle through the joys of 3D printing. just last week I finally got done organizing my more than 7,000 STL files in folders/catagories. that I have amassed in just 2 years. gotta get bigger backup drive than my 300gig now lol

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pirvan wrote:

If you guys want, I can do some tutorials on how to use some of the NetFabb tools to fix or alter models.  .

I know I would sure like more info on how to use this tool.  I'm sure I only use about 1% of what it can do. So anything you can provide would be appreciated.

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n2ri wrote:

very cool! thanks. need more like this those youtube guides are impossible to follow fast as they go.
how do you insert pics instead of just uploading links? thats what I cant figure out. cant even find how to seperate parts of quotes or add more than 1 in post

Easiest way to quote is obviously to click on the "quote" hyperlink.  But you can achieve the same thing manually.  On a new line type:

http://www.soliforum.com/misc.php?action=pun_attachment&item=6501

For example:

User Name Here wrote:

...pirvan said: blah, blah, blah, blah ...

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Re: A little help?

Thanks again pirvan!
Just tried it on a variation of the design I shared and it worked wonderfully.

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