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Topic: Thinking of buying......maybe....

I really like the pricepoint of this printer, and it's professional appearance. However I am concerned with the print quality I see on their website gallery. We build props and miniatures for film and television, and quality/ accuracy / time are 3 of our biggest concerns, pretty much in that same order smile
I don't mind doing things like the acetone bath, a bit of sanding, etc, but a lot of the print examples just look like the layers don't even line up very well, with globby bits all over the place. At $500, the thought was to purchase a few of them to compliment our cnc/ laser equipment we use. But after seeing examples and reviews, I'm a bit scared! I did find the Zortrax print samples look amazing. Any advice from seasoned users, as this would be our first step into printing.
Thanks for any advice!
Jamie

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Re: Thinking of buying......maybe....

I don't think you will be happy with any fused filament printer regardless of the make. And, as far as the printed samples on the XYZ site, I think they deserve credit for being pretty accurate representations of the kind of quality that comes off ANY 3d printer of this type. I've seen lots of impressive PICTURES of 3d printed objects, but I've never seen or held one that looks appreciably better than what comes off a DaVinci.
I don't think any 3d FFM printer would get high marks for quality... and no object is going to hold up to any kind of closeup or close scrutiny. Accuracy (and repeatability) get high marks, but as soon as you get into sanding or acetone baths accuracy goes out the window. As for time, even the most modest object can take hours and hours to print, and if you tune up the output for high resolution in order to improve quality you can double and quadruple the time waiting for the object to finish printing.
That having been said, I don't think you can do better than the DaVinci. For the two months I have had mine (with it printing close to 24 hrs a day), I've been really impressed with its ruggedness and reliability. The two downsides to the machine (proprietary filament cartridges and closed firmware) are both easily overcome with aftermarket and open source alternatives.
Ironically, I don't think you can make an informed decision about buying a 3d printer until you've bought a 3d printer. There are just too many factors to consider. For example, the problematic nature of overhangs and designing around that often onerous limitation. That being the case, I recommend the DaVinci printer again, because even if your experience with it leads you to conclude you can do better with some other equipment, you've only spent $500 to find that out, and if your time is worth anything, $500 is not much at all.
Best of luck!

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Thanks for the honest reply! We have the M-one dlp arriving in Nov for small Hi res stuff. and anything over 5"-ish we would usually just machine on our cnc's, so having a middle of the road option at our disposal would be awesome. I was impressed by images off the zortrax machine,  and to me that's my idea of what fdm should look like even if it took overnight to print (sculptors are pretty expensive hourly smile) Do you have any images of your best prints up close you could post for me. Thanks in advance if you can!
Jamie

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I'm 24hrs into my Da Vinci 1.0 and have over a year of hard core 3d printer use on several different types. Price point pulled me in and the photographs of the prints almost sent me on to the next manufacturer. However, I was pleasantly surprised their pictures truly undersell the quality of prints that are capable. Most companies embellish, these guys did quite the opposite, undersold, over delivered. Granted I'm only 24hrs in to owning it (12 print hours thus far) so we'll see if it lasts. If it does I'll probably buy another.

The downside is it's slow even on its "Fast" setting IMO. However, for the price point, you're just unreasonable to complain. I'll post a pic of some prints later on.

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Re: Thinking of buying......maybe....

I've had mine for a few months and am more than happy with it.
Here's a few of prints so far.

Fishing reel (fly reel) printed at 0.2mm with very cheap ABS ...

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/ec5baca6ae6388891bae1c88d3db3b67_zps13e8d344.jpg


Spool for my cassette reel printed at 0.3mm ...

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/0cce05eaa3ddbefc0c02b33b3c62497d_zps2bb6bbaa.jpg

Handle for a black reel at 0.2mm (approx 20mm in height) ...

http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac28/scobodon/9e87e737723feb8703403633863febce_zpse42a1c8f.jpg

Davinci 1.0 with repetier firmware & E3D V6 Lite
Anycubic Photon DLP printer, Einscan-S 3D scanner
Simplify3d, 123D Design, Meshmixer
http://www.thingiverse.com/scobo/designs