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Topic: Slicer & XYZ Ware

I have been using slicer to slice complex objects due to XYZ messing up. I have created Gcode, changed the header and printed several things already using this method.

I have today tried an complex object and taken the gecode, encoded it and saved it as 3W. Then imported it into XYZ ware (OSX) it shows fine and in Blue as its already sliced. I then select print and the object starts to upload. It takes ages and when it finishes nothing happens. The printer does not do its BUILDING thing.

I know the gcode is pretty big is that the problem?

2 Reply by Weekend Avenger

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From what I've heard, the Mac version of the software is very different than the PC version. Differences include no base64 encoding and communication to the printer differences at the very least. To be very blunt, it should NEVER take very long to upload a print to the SD card over USB2. I'd wonder if this is just not another example of the XYZware under OSX having issue's.

Check your file size, I'd be willing to bet it's under 75MB. While I transfer files to my SDcard directly from my PC to the SDcard it's through a USB2 cheap adapter ($3.97 shipping included) and I get 5MB a second throughput, so even a huge 75MB file only takes 15 second or so. I realize this is faster than the Duet on the printer can manage, but still "ages" should never be happening.

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try clearing cache b4 starting big slices also to free up memory and refrain any internet use while slicing

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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n2ri wrote:

try clearing cache b4 starting big slices also to free up memory and refrain any internet use while slicing

n2ri, how does one clear cache? Is that on the computer side or on the printer side?

Excelsior!

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computer, browser tools, history

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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I dont use XYZ ware - but I'm going to bite.
On what basis would clearing your cache in an unrelated area improve your ability to slice in a non internet-explorer based program ? Cache is on disk; not in memory....

I'm not saying it might not help; but its reeking of Placebo effect on the technical details....

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it frees up virtual memory since ram is never enough even if a few GBs. also if streaming anything or gaming in flash those things keep memory stuffed. I have had slice fails or stutters caused by memory being hogged by other apps, dont matter if from browser its still the same computer and HDD needs partitioned for these things

what is XYZ software? can only find it listed as a preparatory software for a brand of printer.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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also streaming data (on web) is using the serial bus thru com3 and 3D printers use serial bus on dif com port so this can jam data flow at times. you will also notice game, music, videos or downloads skip or freeze if doing them while slicing. and thats even with a duo core 2,2ghz proceccor with 3gb ram and 15gb swap partition on a 1TB HDD 90% free space. thats why I refrain from those things while slicing plus slicing goes faster.

Solidoodle 2 with Deluxe kit cover & glass bed with heater. and 2nd board SD2 used not 3rd and alum platform not installed yet still wood. also need cooling fan installed to board. use Repetier Host couple vers. Slic3r also have all free ware STL programs

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n2ri,

Your in the XYZ printer subsection, so your guess is correct that XYZware is the software that comes with the DaVinci. It has a non standard version of slic3r as its built in slicing utility and a fairly basic interface to view the stl files with.

Part of the issue is how bad XYZware is. You just don't get the plethora of settings needed for anything complex or difficult to print and even on the "better supported" PC side it's well known for crashing on complex models.

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I am new on the forum here. I, too, have had problems with the XYZ printing software so I have used Slic3r but something is not quite right. I get the blue model OK, everything looks good, but when I hit PRINT things just stop. The printer just sits there. It's as if the Print Command is not executed or something. This looks to be similar to ikilby's problem listed above.
Any suggestions.

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As a addendum to my last post, I see that the digital display on my printer reads 100% after the extruder and bed have reached their temperatures. The print head moves over the bed but then it stops and no filament is extruded.

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Update...
For some reason, everything seems to work. I don't know what I did to make it so.

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update

I had the same issue several times on a gcode sliced model. Imported into XYZ Ware and nothing happens after pressing print & uploading.

Tried it several times and the same.

XYZ Ware is the OSX version.

Tried it on the PC version of XYZ ware and it worked first time - so the Mac XYZ Ware has the issue !!!

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I also notice that the problem appears to be related to the size (volume) of the object. If it is too big, the printer just sits there after the blue model is uploaded. Also be sure you have the proper header in your gcode file. I have had success with the following...

; filename = composition.3w
; machine = daVinciF10
; material = abs
; layer_height = 0.4
; total_layers = 30
; total_filament = 501.40
; extruder = 1
T0
G21
M107
M190 S90
M104 S210
M109 S210
G90
G92 E0
M82
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0

Several times I nave forgotten to insert the header and the printer does not print.

Bruce

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bruce wrote:

I also notice that the problem appears to be related to the size (volume) of the object. If it is too big, the printer just sits there after the blue model is uploaded. Also be sure you have the proper header in your gcode file. I have had success with the following...

; filename = composition.3w
; machine = daVinciF10
; material = abs
; layer_height = 0.4
; total_layers = 30
; total_filament = 501.40
; extruder = 1
T0
G21
M107
M190 S90
M104 S210
M109 S210
G90
G92 E0
M82
G1 F1800.000 E-1.00000
G92 E0

Several times I nave forgotten to insert the header and the printer does not print.

Bruce

Thans a lot, I solved whit your setting, but I don't understand why. Yesteday works fine with other settings