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Topic: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Hi Guys...

Not sure if I am posting in the right area, if it needs to be moved, feel free to shuffle it!

I started printing this morning, and it happened to be a really hot Australian day (40 degrees). The room that my SD 3 is in gets really hot quickly, and I found that about 10 centimetres into the print, the printer starts printing into space. I get half a print, then its spaghetti city...

This has never happened to me before, so I thought I would ask if anyone had a similar experience?

I need two parts to fin ins a run, but just shut it down for now. I'm a little worried that running her in such a high heat might damage the electronic. Any thought?

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

My heated chamber reaches at least 40 degrees whenever I print without any problems.  Do any of the stepper motors seem to be skipping steps?  The x-axis motor is prone to overheating, although I've never encountered any issues with it.

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

It's going to be -26 here so I'd be happy to have your problem big_smile
Do you have a fan blowing on your board?

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

No fan blowing on the board, but I do have a room fan that is moving the air around the room.

Oh, and for the record, the room is over 100 degrees... I forgot to say the temp above was in F not C!!

It looks like the Y access is drifting. I'll try and get a pic later. sad

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Skyler101 wrote:

No fan blowing on the board, but I do have a room fan that is moving the air around the room.

Oh, and for the record, the room is over 100 degrees... I forgot to say the temp above was in F not C!!

It looks like the Y access is drifting. I'll try and get a pic later. sad

-Skyler101

Now I'm confused 40 degrees F is cold
40 degrees C is Hot I would suggest you put a fan on your board sounds like your steppers are getting to hot.
on a side note  minus 26 degrees whether it be F or C is Damn Cold big_smile

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

The heat for me confused. Your right! Im in C...

I'm going to give it another shot with a fan, and see if I can get a print going....

-Skyler101

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

I started experiencing problems like this over the summer when the temperature got up there towards 100F. A fan on the control board solved the problem for me. I printed the fan mount in the morning before it got hot. I wired it directly to the 12V input to the control board and everything has been fine since then.

Good luck and try to stay cool,

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Thanks for that Mr Tim... I think thats exactly what happened here with my SD3.

I'm curious, what fan mount did you use?

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

another idea..

Did you calibrate the printer?  It might be because it's not level and when it gets to a certain height it isn't catching which then makes a mess.  IDK. Just a thought.  My room temp is 80'F with no fan or anything. No prob.  Thats why I brought up calibration.

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

I used the one RGarus designed here: http://www.soliforum.com/topic/2802/fan-mount/ It's a simple straight forward quick print. I've redesigned it (in my mind, at lest ;-)) by making the four outside holes into keyholes and printing four caps to go on the mounting screws so the fan mount can be slipped on and off easily for access to the trim pots and what not when needed. It's on my list of things to do....

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Description of symptoms is a bit vague...  ABS or PLA?  Prints in air = layers shift (ie missed X-Y steps, or bumped printhead -- warped print or other obstructions) or extruder stops (missed E-steps, or softened filament, or partial clog -- any sign of dust on hobbed gear)? If you print at night or with a household fan blowing on board/printer, does problem go away? ...

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

I've had this exact thing happen... Turned out the wire bundle got squeezed and offset the nozzle about an inch (sorry about 2.5 cm :-)   The second 1/2 of the print was mostly in space.

I generally try to avoid printing in the left rear corner of my printer but if I have to I keep an eye on the wire bundle.

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Thats interesting Mark...
Something to keep in mind.

The minute I ran a fan on the electronics board, the printer work well... I think it was an overheat issue more than anything else...

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

I rotated my extruder stepper and wire bundle to avoid the wire bundle being pressed into the Y-axis belts.  I posted a thread about it here: http://www.soliforum.com/topic/4652/rot … -consumer/

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Thanks Coaster19...

Totally different questions, what is the filament guide your using?

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

I used my favorite childhood toy, knex, to build a tower which holds the spool horizontally.

Edit: I found a picture of it on my phone

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LOL... Very nice.. smile

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Arhhh.. So frustrated....

I have my SD skip during a print, and the aliment then became completely off.
I am not sure if this is due to the electronics board, or the stepper motors.

The print came out looking like it moved on the print bed, but it was not the case. I was watching it, ad I saw the head move about 10mm then keep on printing. The whole piece was then out of aliment.

What to do, what to do??? sad sad sad...

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Re: Room temperature and your Soliddoodle

Have you tried heat sinks on the stepper controllers. You posted earlier than the fan helped. Maybe heat sinks will eliminate the issue by further cooling the controllers.