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Topic: Perfect Prints

I've been creating perfect prints for about 2 months now.  Only one failure. Everything sticks.  Not using glass or hairspray.  No clogs.  Original hot end and "puzzle" assembly. No fan on my nozzle.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Perfect Prints

Hey Mr. Burhop, can you pick 6 numbers between 1 and 49 for me?   smile

Also, pics or it didn't happen.

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You're one of the lucky ones, Mark.  Take it and run... smile

The fact that you've been lucky is in your favor.  Just do yourself a just-in-case favor and do a few prints of some of the replacement parts.  It'll only take a little plastic, but an ounce (or gram) of prevention is worth a whole lotta headache down the line when something finally does go south.

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mark.burhop wrote:

What am I doing wrong?

Bragging.

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mark.burhop wrote:

I've been creating perfect prints for about 2 months now.  Only one failure. Everything sticks.  Not using glass or hairspray.  No clogs.  Original hot end and "puzzle" assembly. No fan on my nozzle.

What am I doing wrong?

You aren't trying hard enough. tongue Most of the improvements that I have done to my machine are quality related. Maybe it's just that you are happy with your current quality of prints? Either way, I hope you have spare parts on hand 'cause you may have just done yourself in.

It's great to hear people about people getting perfectly boring success rates. smile

SD3 w/ mods:
Glass bed with QU-BD heat pad upgrade, threadless ballscrew w/ 8mm smooth rod, spectra line belt replacement, lawsy MK5 extruder, Lawsy replacement carriage, E3D hotend, Ramps 1.4 w/ reprap discount controller, DRV8825 drivers, 12v 30A PS, Acrylic case, Overkill Y-idlers, Filament alarm, Extruder fan + more.

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Just try to print one of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:74138

Guaranteed to curl up off the bed :-).

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Claghorn wrote:

Just try to print one of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:74138

Guaranteed to curl up off the bed :-).

I have printed a 200 x 150 x 3mm object with no curling. And I am in the same boat. All stock parts. But I do have an enclosure and mirror on my bed.

I have also printed out all of the alternate parts in case of future failure. I have also purchased all of the upgrades, but choose not to install them. Instead, I have been building a completely new printer since all of these upgrades are more than half of what it takes to build a printer from scratch.

So, in my case, I have no banding, perfect circles, and pretty much zero lifting.

I do have the moire effects (can only be solved by replacing motherboard or extrusion method like bowden+gear reducer).
I also have curling issues when printing anything greater than 45 degree overhang (could be solved with a fan).
And there is an occasional hickup with 0.1mm layers (I need more experience with the settings).

Whioe it may sound like bragging, I believe Mark and I have received what was originally intended to be delivered. Mind you, my machine was no-where near this performance until extensive calibrations.

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a 200x150x3 mm is not that bad.

Try 200x150x30mm with 3mm wall perimeters, but no interior. 

But anyway, I'm glad your printer is working well. What else is there to be said?

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Re: Perfect Prints

Claghorn wrote:

Just try to print one of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:74138
Guaranteed to curl up off the bed :-).

No problems here with 155x100x35 , 4mm walls, 4-lower 4-upper, solid infill hollow-box w/ lid. (that's a 60mm fan snap-fitted into a 5mm recess if it helps with context, and an awful awful lot of molten plastic during prints of the first 10 layers wink )
The one next to it is 120x95x35, 4mm walls, 4-lower 4-upper, solid infill hollow-box w/lid - snap-fit that snaps and fits.
I'd offer up copious other examples, but those two happen to be on my desk right now.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7A0A9TKEWJM/UoMrOtrXJZI/AAAAAAAAJAY/-E1vAodIqS8/w1114-h627-no/20131113_183206.jpg

Both of these have been printed 'unenclosed' with no love or attention given other than selecting the correct filament type for the filament at the time, and hitting 'print'. If I had cared, i'd have set z-height a bit better to get a nicer surface finish on the lid, and then I wouldn't have pointed a heat gun when doing some heat-shrink at the lid of the box on the right (which is whats caused the feint deformation on top) - But I wasn't printing these other than to be functional, and I still got what is in the pic. Mark - you got any idea what I'm doing wrong either ? smile

If I had to make one general observation about those dealing with "problems" generally on the forum it would be (directed at no specific individual or otherwise so don't bother with a flame war) - stop over thinking it. A fair amount of hand wringing around here is spent dealing with perceived problems/problem source vs actual problems/problem source and their established solutions (and yup, cherry picking from that list of fixes when a genuine problem is identified isn't applying the fix... its over-thinking it again by assuming there is a shortcut to be had  ).

Either way, isn't the inherint joy of 3D printing learning wonderful new stuff? If you wanted instant satisfaction (with caveats wink ) with ignorance to the process theres always shapeways smile

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Hunter Green - yes, maybe I was bragging just a little bit.  Karma got me as I got a clog this week sad

Honestly, I'm not bad with my hands and wouldn't mind doing some mods. I just hate to muck with since its working so well now.

SD2, glass bed, MK5 setup with E3D lite extruder
NX and Solid Edge CAD user
PI, Galileo, and arduino hacker
Code Monkey and Twitter user @burhop

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There is no good reason to upgrade when everything works. Just keep the upgrade components on stand-by until the stock parts fail and upgrade then. Gives you longer life of the machine.

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Claghorn wrote:

Just try to print one of these: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:74138

Guaranteed to curl up off the bed :-).

Done!  Cool model except for the overhangs.  I got a tiny bit of uplift on the left front corner if you zoom in.  Note that I used PLA which warps less:

http://virtualvector.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/WP_20131116_21_30_03_Pro.jpg

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Amazing! I should actually try printing on the kapton again now that I have a dial indicator mount that seems to finally allow me to level the bed accurately (being really level seems like it does indeed dramatically improve my success).

Now you can replace the wall plate you have the Solidoodle plugged into :-).

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Claghorn good news is  I just replaced an outlet cover with it.  Bad news is my wife is looking for light switch covers now for me to print.  I don't think they will be cool like Dr Who sad

SD2, glass bed, MK5 setup with E3D lite extruder
NX and Solid Edge CAD user
PI, Galileo, and arduino hacker
Code Monkey and Twitter user @burhop