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Topic: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

Turns out you can install Creo DME (Design Modeling Express, the free version) on Win 8 by uninstalling two Windows updates KB2856758 and KB2845533.

To do that go to Control Panel>Programs and Features then in the upper left of the box click "View installed updates". Use the Searh box in the upper right to plug in the update number, then right click and Uninstall.

Reboot, install Creo and have fun.

PTC (Creo) is working on a permanent fix but this will get you going until then.

Here's the link to the Creo software: http://www.ptc.com/products/creo-elemen … g-express/

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Re: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

Heartlander,

How are you liking the Creo Express in general?

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Re: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

I didn't get into it very far before life interceded, but it looks pretty nice. Like most anything, you have to learn a new language/wording/nomenclature for most functions but seems to do anything most folks would want to do. The nice thing about Creo is, if you get good at it, it can't hurt your resume. I'm retired but a working man needs to think about stuff like that. Lots of shops use PTC products and it is a definite respectable program... more so than SketchUp (as a CAD package, although SU is/was really intended as an architectural product). Creo DME is not an animation or sculptural product, just 2 and 3D part drawing and modeling.

I am just now starting to look at Autodesk 123D and, at first blush, it appears t may be the simplest CAD program around - and s a true Solids modeler (SU is a parametric modeler, which has pros and cons, but can cause many of the non-manifold kinks we experience when trying to slice and print our models. IN other words, instead of making a non-solid part and trying to make it solid (with triangles) a true solid modeler starts out with the part as a solid, so you skip a whole raft of headaches.

Anyway, I don't understand everything I know about this stuff, but that's where I'm at.

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Re: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

Thanks for your insights...I just downloaded it today and gave it a small spin.  I'm obviously just getting started, and I'm used to Solidworks at work...but I noticed that Creo does not seem to have a dimensioning feature within the model.  My style is to just model stuff and adjust the specific dimensions later to tune it all in; and the dimensions are all visible.  In SW you can just throw stuff together and just change the dimensions at will to alter the solid geometry. 

Creo does not seem to do that; maybe I'm missing something...

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Re: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

No, I think you are right. There seems to be some discussion on this point in the forums. Google it, there may be a workaround.

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Re: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

Thanks...Talking about 123d though, it looks like they did not include that functionality deliberately...their Online version supports it.

http://forum.123dapp.com/123d/topics/ch … _primitive

The other thing is that when you create, say, a 20mm high cube, the model becomes a dumb solid.  If you then extrude a cylinder of a specific diameter and length on top of the cube, then resize the box to be 10mm lower, the base of the cylinder stays in its original position.  Drives me crazy!

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Re: A fix for Creo with Windows 8

Uh... I think that is doable with 123D. Watch this video, they make mention of Smart Content honoring design rules and Lock Proportions. You have to pause the demo several times to read the fly up tips that explain what is going on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svDxEnEJ … WIS3EyRjdA

It starts getting interesting about 1:30 in.

I know little about 123D but I think maybe one of their forums could yield a quick answer to that.

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