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Topic: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

I was wondering if there are certain advantages to having a Makerbot regarding what is possible? I ask because on thingiverse I ran across a print that says it can be printed on Makerbot. I am not sure if the designer has only printed it on a Makerbot and that is why they mention the printer, or if they believe certain other 3D printers might not be able to handle it for whatever reason. What advantages would Makerbot have over SD as far as possible printable forms?

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

Having used both for over a year I feel I'm in a good position to make comparisons.

1. Mechanically (steppers, rails, bearings, z rod, etc) the Makerbot is fantastic. I've never had any problems with banding. Extrusion is super consistent and neat.

2. The standard extruder for both printers needs replacing. The makerbot one jams easily and is impossible to clean without pulling apart. Works great with a replacement, however.

3. Makerbot heated bed is much faster to reach temp. About halfway between the standard Solidoodle pad and my super quick custom pcb.

4. Makerbot software is the big limitation. Makerware presents itself as user friendly, but limits what you can fiddle with. For the average user this is fine, but as soon as models aren't perfect, it spews out crap g-code. The trouble is that there is no g-code preview or errors, so you won't realise until the prints looks terrible half way through. Sometimes known good models don't slice properly. R-H/Slic3r is harder to learn but ultimately offers much more control.

In summary and dealing with your question, there is nothing physically that the Makerbot can do that the Solidoodle can't, although between the two the Makerbot will be much neater unless the Solidoodle is modded and dialed in.

The person you describe probably printed on a Makerbot so can confirm it will slice and print ok. I doubt they are implying only a Makerbot can print the file.

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

this can help if you really want to use a makerbot..

http://hackaday.com/2013/09/26/opening- … makerware/

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

lawsy wrote:

Having used both for over a year I feel I'm in a good position to make comparisons.

4. Makerbot software is the big limitation. Makerware presents itself as user friendly, but limits what you can fiddle with. For the average user this is fine, but as soon as models aren't perfect, it spews out crap g-code. The trouble is that there is no g-code preview or errors, so you won't realise until the prints looks terrible half way through. Sometimes known good models don't slice properly. R-H/Slic3r is harder to learn but ultimately offers much more control.

Lawsy,

Can the Makerbot printer be used with Repetier or other software, or you have to use Makerware?  If the latter, can you import GCode created externally (Slic3r, Kisslicer, Skeinforge, etc) into Makerware?

To print or, 3D print, that is the question...
SD3 printer w/too many mods,  Printrbot Simple Maker Ed.,  FormLabs Form 1+
AnyCubic Photon, Shining 3D EinScan-S & Atlas 3D scanners...
...and too much time on my hands.

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

Makerbot has a bigger bed doesn't it?  If it's a big enough part, that could make a difference.

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

i would say consider the costs, and the limitations of the makerbot, and make the wise choice to buy a solidoodle.

but i place the condition that you must be a tinkerer.

solidoodle is a hobbyist machine. you have to want to work on and improve the printer as much as you want to print. this covers the majority of 3d printer users... because you have to be the creative type to want a rapid prototyping machine in your own home. lol

a makerbot is more user friendly on the front end. but like lawsy said, the second anything goes wonky, you will be in way over your head if you are a newb. you might feel more cheated if you spent 2k on a makerbot, vs $800 on a SD3, and it refuses to do what you tell it to! haha

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

pirvan wrote:

Lawsy,

Can the Makerbot printer be used with Repetier or other software, or you have to use Makerware?  If the latter, can you import GCode created externally (Slic3r, Kisslicer, Skeinforge, etc) into Makerware?

Slic3r can be set to output Makerbot/Sailfish g-code but some unwanted and troublesome lines will be added. I fiddled in the past with a perl script that removed them and successfully printed on the Replicator in this way. Yo have to use Replicator G instead of Makerware to be able to directly load g-code, however.

justsomeguy wrote:

Makerbot has a bigger bed doesn't it?  If it's a big enough part, that could make a difference.

SD3 has a bigger bed than a Replicator 1. Replicator 2 is bigger again but doesn't print ABS unless you upgrade to a 2X which is getting really expensive.

dkeeling728 wrote:

but like lawsy said, the second anything goes wonky, you will be in way over your head if you are a newb. you might feel more cheated if you spent 2k on a makerbot, vs $800 on a SD3, and it refuses to do what you tell it to! haha

We purchased the Replicator through the official Australian distributed and had a full warranty. The vreg on the mightyboard blew on time, and they couriered it back to them for repairs at no cost but I did have to wait a few weeks. Another time a plug melted so they sent out  replacement the same day.

Apart from that the only hardware issues I've had concern setting up the first layer height to get prints to stick. There is no z-axis end stop screw like the Solidoodle so each change in height needs four underside screws turned the same amount.

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So the only real difference is that Makerbot doesn't have banding? I see on the youtube Ben heck show that he uses the Makerbot and at least from his videos the objects (IPhone cases and what have you) seem smooth without obvious layer lines.

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Re: Solidoodle Versus Makerbot

I agree with that. Other printers can reach the same standard but out of the box the Replicator prints beautifully.

There are some downsides too. Using Makerware, you can't hat move the printer through the software. Everything has to be done on the Replicator control panel which I find irritating.